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Deep State Rolls Trump On Budget, Immigration. Is This the End? [unz]

http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/deep-state-rolls-trump-on-bud...
Stimulating abode new version
  03/24/18
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plum provocative address
  03/24/18
that about says it all. the writing has been on the wall for...
Sienna library
  03/24/18
Trump running to the left of Dems so Schumer and Pelosi vote...
Stimulating abode new version
  03/24/18
when he got elected, there were people saying he shd try to ...
Sienna library
  03/24/18
what if there are zero votes for such a thing and that age...
Judgmental double fault
  03/24/18
Trump won the election. 'Trumpism' won, and half of the peo...
Sienna library
  03/24/18
sounds cr brother do u think they are holding some shit o...
Judgmental double fault
  03/24/18
i don't think he has the desire or the ability. he's not Mus...
Sienna library
  03/24/18
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Judgmental double fault
  03/24/18
Why do you 'randomly' CAPITALIZE and use 'quotation' marks?...
Flushed Frisky Potus Box Office
  03/24/18
ultimately, it seems like he got torn up by healthcare (of a...
Mildly autistic slap-happy forum fat ankles
  03/24/18
He did the worst of both worlds: GOP establishment on war an...
Stimulating abode new version
  03/24/18
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apoplectic carnelian space
  03/24/18
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Multi-colored feces personal credit line
  03/24/18
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overrated brilliant school cafeteria codepig
  03/24/18
this.
Up-to-no-good orchestra pit
  03/24/18
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very tactful violent tanning salon
  03/24/18
don't worry, i'm sure MPC bros will be here any minute to ex...
Yellow Cracking School Headpube
  03/24/18
honestly who gives a shit? literally anything is better than...
chrome zombie-like french chef
  03/24/18
what about successfully fleeing the country while the honest...
Yellow Cracking School Headpube
  03/24/18
for sure brother. that's definitely on the table with this i...
chrome zombie-like french chef
  03/24/18
me too but that doesn't mean i'm optimistic about the end ga...
Yellow Cracking School Headpube
  03/24/18
MPC?
disturbing fanboi halford
  03/24/18
https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8496-the-donald-trump-presid...
Yellow Cracking School Headpube
  03/24/18
unnggghh 180
Ruby lascivious jew
  03/24/18
we need a revolution.
slate candlestick maker
  03/24/18
JFC I need to find a bridge and jump off it
Multi-colored feces personal credit line
  03/24/18
3D chess
laughsome flesh casino faggot firefighter
  03/24/18
Invade the world, invite the world, NDA with the world. W...
Beady-eyed Church Building
  03/24/18
Too depressing to finish that article. I guess I will just k...
fiercely-loyal fragrant circlehead
  03/24/18
Fwiw violence likely won't work either and it's always been ...
Beady-eyed Church Building
  03/24/18


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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: Stimulating abode new version

http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/deep-state-rolls-trump-on-budget-immigration-is-this-the-end/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675792)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: plum provocative address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675845)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Sienna library

that about says it all. the writing has been on the wall for a long time. Trump is a bust (though i am constantly attacked for stating this).

Derbyshireftw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675874)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:05 AM
Author: Stimulating abode new version

Trump running to the left of Dems so Schumer and Pelosi vote against his impeachment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675901)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: Sienna library

when he got elected, there were people saying he shd try to build some sort of hybrid-coalition by appealing to the Bernie-wing left on healthcare/trade/labor and to GOP factions on the right on cultural issues/law & order/etc. this was the Trump as nonaligned 'Dealmaker' concept.

what a joke that people actually believed Trump had the skill/will to do anything other than get his face fucked daily by Ryan/Pelosi/Mcconell/Schumer et al.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675922)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:18 AM
Author: Judgmental double fault

what if there are zero votes for such a thing and that agenda would be completely alone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675949)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: Sienna library

Trump won the election. 'Trumpism' won, and half of the people who voted against him hated the DEM candidate and would have preferred Bernie Sanders.

he had the People on his side -- and both party leaderships were TERRIFIED of this. Trump had all the cards.

Trump should have found a way to consolidate all of the anti-establishment RAGE in the electorate, that had propelled him into office, that had propelled Sanders almost to the nomination.

if he had any real skill as a 'leader,' this would have been possible.

with a 'mandate' like this, the 'votes' would have come.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675977)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Judgmental double fault

sounds cr brother

do u think they are holding some shit over on him, he just wasn't interested in doing such a thing or didn't see the value?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675984)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:44 AM
Author: Sienna library

i don't think he has the desire or the ability. he's not Mussolini or something. it was all shtick. it was WWF theater. he's a TV actor, not a revolutionary.

i am very doubtful that he actually BELIEVES in the value of 'closing the borders' or reindustrializing, etc. i think it was mostly provocative 'branding'.

his heart is CLEARLY not in even ATTEMPTING to play hardball on his signature issue, immigration. even at his RALLIES, where people are desperate for some 'red meat' on immigration, all he can manage is more talk of the beautiful DACA 'babies.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676044)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: Judgmental double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676075)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Flushed Frisky Potus Box Office

Why do you 'randomly' CAPITALIZE and use 'quotation' marks? Are YOU a 'boomer'?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676267)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: Mildly autistic slap-happy forum fat ankles

ultimately, it seems like he got torn up by healthcare (of all things), and ended up wasting much of his first year on a series of shitty and failed repeals. what a waste. "strike while the iron is hot" would have demanded any sort of "grand coalition" populist push to have happened by now, which doesn't bode well for the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675963)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: Stimulating abode new version

He did the worst of both worlds: GOP establishment on war and tax cuts, and Demcuck on immigration. A coalition that exists entirely of David Brooks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675965)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: apoplectic carnelian space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676002)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: Multi-colored feces personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676005)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:58 AM
Author: overrated brilliant school cafeteria codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676309)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good orchestra pit

this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676741)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: very tactful violent tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35679621)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: Yellow Cracking School Headpube

don't worry, i'm sure MPC bros will be here any minute to explain why this isn't actually a bad thing in the long term. if they're really honest they may even admit it is a setback for right wing populism, but only if they can bury their heads in the sand about how many more chances we will get to save America (most likely zero with a good chance that it was already too late anyway)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675982)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: chrome zombie-like french chef

honestly who gives a shit? literally anything is better than open borders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676000)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: Yellow Cracking School Headpube

what about successfully fleeing the country while the honest historians record that 21st century America fell because of exactly the things i dislike about it? it's not exactly a happy ending but it's the best i can see having any chance of happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676017)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:47 AM
Author: chrome zombie-like french chef

for sure brother. that's definitely on the table with this idiot in charge. I'm just saying I'd still vote for him over Hillary without hesitation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676055)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:53 AM
Author: Yellow Cracking School Headpube

me too but that doesn't mean i'm optimistic about the end game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676061)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:57 AM
Author: disturbing fanboi halford

MPC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676070)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: Yellow Cracking School Headpube

https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8496-the-donald-trump-presidential-archive/page__st__33860#entry421093

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676072)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Ruby lascivious jew

unnggghh 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35678093)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: slate candlestick maker

we need a revolution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675983)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: Multi-colored feces personal credit line

JFC I need to find a bridge and jump off it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35675997)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 7:51 AM
Author: laughsome flesh casino faggot firefighter

3D chess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676397)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Church Building

Invade the world, invite the world, NDA with the world.

W/e still got Gorsuch and lower court picks have been solid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35676441)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal fragrant circlehead

Too depressing to finish that article. I guess I will just keep supporting Trump to piss off libs. It is just theatre now. We are all fucked in the end, and nobody can do anything about it short of using violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35679339)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Church Building

Fwiw violence likely won't work either and it's always been theater. The next turn of the screw comes from new tech, methinks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927504&forum_id=2#35679512)