I somewhat suspect that not teaching about the history of Western civ
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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: 180 double fault
--the greatness of Athens and its fall, the founding of Rome, the seven kings, republic, empire, collapse -- has deprived youth of a hook on which to hang certain natural insights about the human tragedy. It is hard to imagine something like the Romantic movement cropping up to wide acclaim these days.
But, then, secular dysgenic trend, immigration, the lack of evidence for any longrun effect of even the best teachers - what use.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35676692) |
Date: March 24th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Bright Marvelous Potus Legend
(((they))) can't have the goyim knowing.
That was, Macdonald explained, because "the masses are not people, they are not The Man in the Street or The Average Man, they are not even that figment of liberal condescension, The Common Man. The masses are, rather, man as non-man." He quoted the author Roger Fry approvingly as saying Americans "have lost the power to be individuals. They have become social insects like bees and ants."
And what were these insects up to? They were sampling the greatest works of Western civilization for the first time. "Twenty years ago," a salesman reveled in Mass Culture: The Popular Arts in America , "you couldn't sell Beethoven out of New York. Today we sell Palestrina, Monteverdi, Gabrieli, and Renaissance and Baroque music in large quantities." The public's expanding taste and increased income produced a 250 percent growth in the number of local symphony orchestras between 1940 and 1955. In that same year, 1955,15 million people paid to attend major league baseball games, while 35 million paid to attend classical music concerts. The New York Metropolitan Opera's Saturday afternoon radio broadcast drew a listenership of 15 million out of an overall population of 165 million.
The overwhelming new medium of television was particularly decried by critics of mass culture. But as the sociologist David White, co-editor with Rosenberg of Mass Culture , noted, NBC spent $500,000 in 1956 to present a three-hour version of Shakespeare's Richard III starring Laurence Olivier. The broadcast drew 50 million viewers ; as many as 25 million watched all three hours. White went on to note that "on March 16, 1956, a Sunday chosen at random," the viewer could have seen a discussion of the life and times of Toulouse-Lautrec by three prominent art critics, an interview with theologian Paul Tillich, an adaptation of Walter Van Tilburg Clark's Hook , a documentary on mental illness with Dr. William Menninger, and a 90-minute performance of The Taming of the Shrew .
At the same time, book sales doubled. Saul Bellow's The Adventures of Augie March , a National Book Award winner, had only modest sales when it was published in 1953. But it went on to sell a million copies in paperback--the softcover book having been introduced on a grand scale after the war. Anthropologist Ruth Benedict's Patterns of Culture , published in 1934, sold modestly until the advent of the paperback By the mid-50s this assault on Victorian moral absolutes in the name of cultural tolerance had sold a half million copies.
In 1947, notes Alex Beam in his recent book A Great Idea at the Time , Robert Hutchins, then president of the University of Chicago, and the autodidact philosopher Mortimer Adler launched an effort to bring the great books of Western Civilization to the people. In 1948 Hutchins and Adler drew 2,500 people to a Chicago auditorium to hear them lead a discussion of the trial of Socrates. By 1951 there were 2,500 Great Books discussion groups, with roughly 25,000 members meeting "all over the country, in public libraries, in church basements, Chamber of Commerce offices, corporate conference rooms at IBM and Grumman Aircraft, in private homes, on army bases," and even prisons. At the peak of the Great Books boom, Beam writes, 50,000 Americans a year were buying collections of the writings of Plato, Aristotle, the Founding Fathers, and Hegel at prices that "started at $298 and topped out at $1,175, the equivalent of $2,500 to $9,800 today."
This was the danger against which critics of mass culture, inflamed with indignation, arrayed themselves in righteous opposition.
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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:51 AM Author: startled location
"higher openness means lack of critical thinking"
No it doesnt mean it but what is associated with this sort of "higher openness" is an egoistic sort of valuing inherently biased intuitions when it comes to things that dont necessarily have strong objective support.
The scale gets tipped, so you dont need as much support for things like telepathy, global views of how the world is gone to hell in a handbasket, what have you, before you believe it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35676896) |
Date: March 24th, 2018 10:11 AM Author: know-it-all cumskin
wtf
Huxley, a member of the Eugenics Society, saw mass literacy, mass education, and popular newspapers as having “created an immense class of what I may call the New Stupid.” He proposed the British government raise the price of newsprint ten or twentyfold because “the new stupid,” manipulated by newspaper plutocrats, were imposing a soul-crushing conformity on humanity. The masses, so his argument went, needed to be curtailed for their own good and for the greater good of high culture.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35676751)
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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:56 PM Author: Big overrated market
when are kids supposed to learn about this in any sort of detail?
History until college is about covering the basics
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35681297) |
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Date: March 25th, 2018 12:48 AM Author: Bright Marvelous Potus Legend
have no remembrance of the time when I began to learn Greek. I have been told that it was when I was three years old. My earliest recollection on the subject, is that of committing to memory what my father termed Vocables, being lists of common Greek words, with their signification in English, which he wrote out for me on cards. Of grammar, until some years later, I learnt no more than the inflexions of the nouns and verbs, but, after a course of vocables, proceeded at once to translation; and I faintly remember going through AEsop's Fables, the first Greek book which I read. The Anabasis, which I remember better, was the second. I learnt no Latin until my eighth year. At that time I had read, under my father's tuition, a number of Greek prose authors, among whom I remember the whole of Herodotus, and of Xenophon's Cyropaedia and Memorials of Socrates; some of the lives of the philosophers by Diogenes Laertius; part of Lucian, and Isocrates' ad Demonicum and ad Nicoclem. I also read, in 1813, the first six dialogues (in the common arrangement) of Plato, from the Euthyphron to the Theaetetus inclusive: which last dialogue, I venture to think, would have been better omitted, as it was totally impossible I should understand it. But my father, in all his teaching, demanded of me not only the utmost that I could do, but much that I could by no possibility have done.
From my eighth to my twelfth year the Latin books which I remember reading were, the Bucolics of Virgil, and the first six books of the AEneid; all Horace except the Epodes; the Fables of Phaedrus; the first five books of Livy (to which from my love of the subject I voluntarily added, in my hours of leisure, the remainder of the first decade); all Sallust; a considerable part of Ovid's Metamorphoses; some plays of Terence; two or three books of Lucretius; several of the Orations of Cicero, and of his writings on oratory; also his letters to Atticus, my father taking the trouble to translate to me from the French the historical explanations in Mongault's notes. In Greek I read the Iliad and Odyssey through; one or two plays of Sophocles, Euripides, and Aristophanes, though by these I profited little; all Thucydides; the Hellenics of Xenophon; a great part of Demosthenes, AEschines, and Lysias; Theocritus; Anacreon; part of the Anthology; a little of Dionysius; several books of Polybius; and lastly Aristotle's Rhetoric, which, as the first expressly scientific treatise on any moral or psychological subject which I had read, and containing many of the best observations of the ancients on human nature and life, my father made me study with peculiar care, and throw the matter of it into synoptic tables. During the same years I learnt elementary geometry and algebra thoroughly, the differential calculus and other portions of the higher mathematics far from thoroughly: for my father, not having kept up this part of his early acquired knowledge, could not spare time to qualify himself for removing my difficulties, and left me to deal with them, with little other aid than that of books; while I was continually incurring his displeasure by my inability to solve difficult problems for
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Date: March 25th, 2018 1:40 AM Author: Bright Marvelous Potus Legend
now instead of teaching anabasis we have mentally ill white women with "lesson plans" whose only lesson is the castration of our sons.
sending your children--but especially boys--to "school" in modern amerikkka is criminal abuse and the greatest tragedy of our collapsing civilization
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35681766) |
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Date: March 25th, 2018 12:54 AM Author: abusive misanthropic keepsake machete
"History until college is about covering the basics"
it didn't used to be.
I doubt the average elite college grad could pass the HS exit exams from a rural district 100 years ago
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35681598) |
Date: March 26th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Bonkers demanding trump supporter home
Seriously, I think this is one of the major reasons libs are pushing for mass immigration. When a majority becomes of non-European origin, it becomes relatively easy to argue that European history is no longer the root of American history, as America is no longer primarily of European origin. It also changes, fundamentally, the perspective of the founding fathers and their ideas regarding liberty. Suddenly, Jefferson shouldn't be famous for concepts such as "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" but instead should be viewed primarily has a racist, white slave owner. That makes disregarding fundamental freedoms such as freedom of speech, gun ownership, etc. more palatable. Ultimately, the goal is left-wing authoritarianism and this makes it possible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927618&forum_id=2#35691515) |
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