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Most important battle in history adjusting for # of events after?

That is, I don't want some Quinean observation that the very...
shaky idiotic degenerate church building
  03/24/18
Just a gut call but probably Yarmuk. If Musbros get thrashed...
Bistre Heady Base
  03/24/18
not tours?
Self-centered sound barrier
  03/24/18
Tours conceivably stops further Muslim expansion. Yarmuk con...
Bistre Heady Base
  03/24/18
I like that you thought about both possible outcomes.
shaky idiotic degenerate church building
  03/24/18
Interesting choice. Lots of niece threading when that was ov...
shaky idiotic degenerate church building
  03/24/18
convincing answer
Well-lubricated Iridescent Cumskin
  03/24/18
Stalingrad
rambunctious library mother
  03/24/18
Wasn't Hitler DONEHERE even just on the Eastern front regard...
shaky idiotic degenerate church building
  03/24/18
the battle of zama, which gave rome supremacy over carthage ...
Magical vigorous space
  03/24/18
Interesting, thanks. I think you could make a similar case f...
shaky idiotic degenerate church building
  03/24/18
Zama is imo a poor choice because although it was the final ...
Bistre Heady Base
  03/24/18
Gotta throw Salamis out there, it's trite but without that w...
Dashing cream boltzmann
  03/24/18
cherokee-american or if jamestown massacre role reversal.
Tan Gaming Laptop Fat Ankles
  03/24/18
Die Bien Phu led to 'Nam and that whole shitstorm
naked hell people who are hurt
  03/24/18
Exodus
Wonderful vengeful generalized bond
  03/24/18
If Gettysburg goes the other way, maybe the South is success...
cracking embarrassed to the bone kitchen persian
  03/24/18


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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: shaky idiotic degenerate church building

That is, I don't want some Quinean observation that the very first battle perforce must be most important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680193)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: Bistre Heady Base

Just a gut call but probably Yarmuk. If Musbros get thrashed there they almost certainly don't get another chance to overrun as much as they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680230)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: Self-centered sound barrier

not tours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680235)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Bistre Heady Base

Tours conceivably stops further Muslim expansion. Yarmuk conceivably stops Islam before it begins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680263)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: shaky idiotic degenerate church building

I like that you thought about both possible outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680271)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: shaky idiotic degenerate church building

Interesting choice. Lots of niece threading when that was over!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680243)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Iridescent Cumskin

convincing answer

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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: rambunctious library mother

Stalingrad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680249)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: shaky idiotic degenerate church building

Wasn't Hitler DONEHERE even just on the Eastern front regardless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680257)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Magical vigorous space

the battle of zama, which gave rome supremacy over carthage and the broader mediterranean and led to its rise into a major power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680276)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: shaky idiotic degenerate church building

Interesting, thanks. I think you could make a similar case for Utica, but Zama does have Hannibal v. Scipio.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680298)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Bistre Heady Base

Zama is imo a poor choice because although it was the final battle of the war, it wasn't a decisive "one way or the other" affair. If Scipio were crushed Carthage would still have lost the war; they simply would have secured a more favorable peace.

While an extremely important conflict the Second Punic War doesn't really have a single critical battle. For Rome's rise Asculum or Heraclea may be more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680962)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:17 PM
Author: Dashing cream boltzmann

Gotta throw Salamis out there, it's trite but without that we don't get Hellenism or any of the rest of western civ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680346)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Tan Gaming Laptop Fat Ankles

cherokee-american

or if jamestown massacre role reversal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680349)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: naked hell people who are hurt

Die Bien Phu led to 'Nam and that whole shitstorm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680361)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Wonderful vengeful generalized bond

Exodus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680988)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: cracking embarrassed to the bone kitchen persian

If Gettysburg goes the other way, maybe the South is successful in secession and US never ends up hegemonic world power?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35681016)