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Most important battle in history adjusting for # of events after?

That is, I don't want some Quinean observation that the very...
big infuriating gas station
  03/24/18
Just a gut call but probably Yarmuk. If Musbros get thrashed...
Maniacal stage boistinker
  03/24/18
not tours?
Dead police squad
  03/24/18
Tours conceivably stops further Muslim expansion. Yarmuk con...
Maniacal stage boistinker
  03/24/18
I like that you thought about both possible outcomes.
big infuriating gas station
  03/24/18
Interesting choice. Lots of niece threading when that was ov...
big infuriating gas station
  03/24/18
convincing answer
vigorous whorehouse friendly grandma
  03/24/18
Stalingrad
Dashing native
  03/24/18
Wasn't Hitler DONEHERE even just on the Eastern front regard...
big infuriating gas station
  03/24/18
the battle of zama, which gave rome supremacy over carthage ...
Cerebral Casino
  03/24/18
Interesting, thanks. I think you could make a similar case f...
big infuriating gas station
  03/24/18
Zama is imo a poor choice because although it was the final ...
Maniacal stage boistinker
  03/24/18
Gotta throw Salamis out there, it's trite but without that w...
milky self-absorbed menage yarmulke
  03/24/18
cherokee-american or if jamestown massacre role reversal.
Green Scourge Upon The Earth Keepsake Machete
  03/24/18
Die Bien Phu led to 'Nam and that whole shitstorm
exciting locus queen of the night
  03/24/18
Exodus
adventurous place of business fortuitous meteor
  03/24/18
If Gettysburg goes the other way, maybe the South is success...
Fighting abode trust fund
  03/24/18


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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: big infuriating gas station

That is, I don't want some Quinean observation that the very first battle perforce must be most important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680193)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: Maniacal stage boistinker

Just a gut call but probably Yarmuk. If Musbros get thrashed there they almost certainly don't get another chance to overrun as much as they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680230)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: Dead police squad

not tours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680235)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Maniacal stage boistinker

Tours conceivably stops further Muslim expansion. Yarmuk conceivably stops Islam before it begins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680263)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: big infuriating gas station

I like that you thought about both possible outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680271)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: big infuriating gas station

Interesting choice. Lots of niece threading when that was over!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680243)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: vigorous whorehouse friendly grandma

convincing answer

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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Dashing native

Stalingrad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680249)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: big infuriating gas station

Wasn't Hitler DONEHERE even just on the Eastern front regardless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680257)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Cerebral Casino

the battle of zama, which gave rome supremacy over carthage and the broader mediterranean and led to its rise into a major power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680276)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: big infuriating gas station

Interesting, thanks. I think you could make a similar case for Utica, but Zama does have Hannibal v. Scipio.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680298)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Maniacal stage boistinker

Zama is imo a poor choice because although it was the final battle of the war, it wasn't a decisive "one way or the other" affair. If Scipio were crushed Carthage would still have lost the war; they simply would have secured a more favorable peace.

While an extremely important conflict the Second Punic War doesn't really have a single critical battle. For Rome's rise Asculum or Heraclea may be more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680962)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:17 PM
Author: milky self-absorbed menage yarmulke

Gotta throw Salamis out there, it's trite but without that we don't get Hellenism or any of the rest of western civ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680346)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Green Scourge Upon The Earth Keepsake Machete

cherokee-american

or if jamestown massacre role reversal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680349)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: exciting locus queen of the night

Die Bien Phu led to 'Nam and that whole shitstorm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680361)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: adventurous place of business fortuitous meteor

Exodus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35680988)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: Fighting abode trust fund

If Gettysburg goes the other way, maybe the South is successful in secession and US never ends up hegemonic world power?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3928076&forum_id=2#35681016)