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Facebook guys reject $750 million bid-want $2 billion

Some think they should have accepted the offer.
Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
  04/03/06
they should have.
vibrant swollen wagecucks sweet tailpipe
  04/03/06
i don't see how these things can be worth anything. Anyone c...
diverse market stock car
  04/03/06
you clearly don't understand this particular market
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/03/06
Credited. One of my roomates started a comparable website tw...
Stimulating Glassy Rigpig
  04/03/06
yea, look how popular it is now.
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/03/06
TI,OC,TCR.
house-broken beta parlor
  04/03/06
there's little barrier to entry, but pretty much every colle...
Violent Jet Mexican Den
  04/03/06
This is correct. At this point in time, I don't think there ...
motley zombie-like forum legal warrant
  04/03/06
Agreed. I look down on XuQa, Friendster, myspace. Their layo...
turquoise institution
  04/03/06
I like myspace for people I know who didn't go to college or...
Effete dragon locale
  04/03/06
Did these guys hire an investment bank to value the company?...
Cruel-hearted Brunch
  04/03/06
lame
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/03/06
Anyone could.
cowardly dilemma death wish
  04/03/06
You must be joking. The Facebook guys have some of the mo...
Magical curious trailer park dog poop
  04/03/06
betas?
wonderful station hairy legs
  04/04/06
I think it's an east coast term
maroon big rehab
  10/07/07
this guy is such an idiot and a tool in social situations...
blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe
  04/03/06
explain
motley zombie-like forum legal warrant
  04/03/06
You're probably just jealous that he's a multi-millionaire a...
house-broken beta parlor
  04/03/06
im not jealous....i would never have thought of/been interes...
blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe
  04/03/06
...
Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
  04/03/06
yep edit: i just ordered graduation announcements....cree...
blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe
  04/03/06
TITCR.
Emerald angry field
  04/06/06
MySpace has more members, and the more lucrative younger mar...
ebony 180 center hissy fit
  04/03/06
MySpace was also a bargain for NewsCorp. If MySpace had s...
Magical curious trailer park dog poop
  04/03/06
Its the 18-25 crowd that almost every company sans Goldbon o...
buff spectacular roommate boltzmann
  04/03/06
Maybe. I think most people think theyre idiots because a bir...
odious set
  04/03/06
That's the conservative approach
Wine soul-stirring pit
  04/03/06
I once read an article on this guy in the New York Times or ...
vengeful gas station puppy
  04/03/06
exactly which is why they should sell now they are doi...
blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe
  04/03/06
and by the time the novelty wears off it's about time for a ...
White Floppy Halford
  04/03/06
Point taken.
vengeful gas station puppy
  04/03/06
They can't operate that way, since that means ZERO growth. I...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
saying that they'll have zero growth would only make sense i...
White Floppy Halford
  04/03/06
I think it is the case, though. Not on as short of a timelin...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
The timeline that I proposed was exaggerated, obviously. Ho...
vengeful gas station puppy
  04/03/06
I didn't say there's continuous growth. But they aren't done...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
When I wrote the Facebook staff demanding to know why they d...
Ungodly heaven half-breed
  04/03/06
*Why* would a company want to buy facebook? What kind of ser...
Excitant narrow-minded kitty area
  04/03/06
infomation is expensive.
frozen pungent stead
  04/03/06
I'm trying to envision a scenario where a company would be a...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
hmm. they already have "pulse" and that can be vie...
frozen pungent stead
  04/03/06
I don't think the Pulse is worth much other than as a way to...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
i can remember when you sneered at Facebook!
Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
  04/03/06
haha
frozen pungent stead
  04/03/06
I don't think I ever said XO had a business plan, much less ...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
10% of $2 billion is $200 million
overrated chapel
  04/03/06
Do you understand how this whole money thing works? 10% p...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
I have a pretty good idea how the *money thing* works
overrated chapel
  04/03/06
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&for...
turquoise institution
  04/03/06
The new world order is trying to assemble a census of its fu...
Poppy address
  04/03/06
the same thing could be said of google - all they "sell...
Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat
  04/03/06
Yeah, but you don't understand the magnitude of Google relat...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
everyone starts with no cash flows - i think it was google's...
Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat
  04/03/06
Well, it's easy to say that when the something you made was ...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
i'm not calling whether or not facebook will become a 2 bill...
Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat
  04/03/06
I'm saying that both offers are ridiculous, regardless of po...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
"Or maybe they're making a lot more than I could fathom...
passionate twisted point
  04/04/06
You have sources?
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/04/06
Friend of a friend works there, of course this hinges on the...
passionate twisted point
  04/04/06
THIS IS THE FUCKING CREDITED RESPONSE!
Emerald angry field
  04/06/06
HS facebook
sticky nowag mother
  04/03/06
Facebook is pretty behind when it comes to HS stuff. MySpace...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
TITCR.
Emerald angry field
  04/06/06
i think its doable. facebook has been tryig hard to make ...
Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat
  04/03/06
Indirect
sticky nowag mother
  04/03/06
The facebook information is only worth something when it exi...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
Not Spam
sticky nowag mother
  04/03/06
Feel free to use the individual post Reply button. You di...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
This so fucking stupid. Companies should spend money on med...
Emerald angry field
  04/06/06
Turns out Sconex.com was acquired for $6.1 million last week...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url...
sticky nowag mother
  04/03/06
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url...
sticky nowag mother
  04/03/06
Haha.
seedy church building idiot
  04/06/06
It could have been us!
cowardly dilemma death wish
  04/03/06
Maybe rach, GTO, and Boondocks will make us all partners?
Ungodly heaven half-breed
  04/03/06
I get a penny for each post.
cowardly dilemma death wish
  04/03/06
I get a penny for each post.
cowardly dilemma death wish
  04/03/06
That explains all your irrelevant threads and posts.
Ungodly heaven half-breed
  04/03/06
thanks for the contribution
cowardly dilemma death wish
  04/03/06
haha
motley zombie-like forum legal warrant
  04/03/06
and the double posting bug
Jet-lagged Depressive Newt
  04/03/06
It's not really a bug, per se. At this point, people are act...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/03/06
no we're not
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/04/06
:(
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  04/04/06
something in the computer realm that i don't understand is p...
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/06/06
*we* arent, you and bothered are
heady flesh temple
  04/04/06
we're the same poster
Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino
  04/06/06
no im not
cowardly dilemma death wish
  10/07/07
$15 billion bump. The self-pwnage in this thread makes fo...
buff spectacular roommate boltzmann
  10/05/07
"The company, the world's biggest software maker, is in...
Godawful adventurous sanctuary
  10/05/07
"One sticky issue: A Microsoft investment could ultimat...
buff spectacular roommate boltzmann
  10/05/07
it's only worth what someone will pay for it, and balmer did...
Godawful adventurous sanctuary
  10/05/07
Still a shrewd move not to sell at $750 million.
buff spectacular roommate boltzmann
  10/05/07
very true, but i expect nothing less from a harvard '-berg'
Godawful adventurous sanctuary
  10/05/07
yup
confused skinny woman trust fund
  10/05/07
I think XOXO will have great possibilities once they add me ...
Aromatic garrison
  10/05/07
Go Facebook, go!
scarlet theater tattoo
  10/06/07
Deleting my Facebook was the best thing I ever did.
Swashbuckling Territorial School
  10/06/07
1.5bil is TCR.
lake tanning salon old irish cottage
  10/06/07
The covnentional wisdom is that buying a small stake of Face...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  10/07/07
Facebook has certainly positioned itself to be extremely val...
Godawful adventurous sanctuary
  10/08/07
I need to come back to this board more often. I'm coding for...
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  10/13/07
There's no need to come back to this board. I only come arou...
Godawful adventurous sanctuary
  10/19/07
Facebook is important because it means that, even though it'...
maroon big rehab
  10/19/07
Excellent damage control for saying Facebook is worth less t...
aggressive famous landscape painting incel
  10/24/07
Damage control 17 days before the announcement?
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  10/25/07
how to beat facebook?
maroon big rehab
  10/19/07
Wha?
Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm
  10/25/07
exactly
maroon big rehab
  10/28/07


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Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:42 AM
Author: Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
Subject: Some think they should have accepted the offer.

http://www.thecrimson.harvard.edu/article.aspx?ref=512423

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5499598)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:41 AM
Author: vibrant swollen wagecucks sweet tailpipe

they should have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5499793)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:30 AM
Author: diverse market stock car

i don't see how these things can be worth anything. Anyone can start a social-neworking site; there's little barrier to entry. Google and Yahoo are getting into it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500698)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:34 AM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

you clearly don't understand this particular market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500727)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:34 AM
Author: Stimulating Glassy Rigpig

Credited. One of my roomates started a comparable website two years before the facebook started. It only took him a summer to set up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500728)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:34 AM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

yea, look how popular it is now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500732)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:06 PM
Author: house-broken beta parlor

TI,OC,TCR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501285)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:37 AM
Author: Violent Jet Mexican Den

there's little barrier to entry, but pretty much every college student has a facebook account already - and how many people will open a new account on a new site all of a sudden? probably not many, i know i wouldn't bother. i don't think there are many other sites out there that receive such a ridiculously heavy volume of traffice from such a prime demographic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500751)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:38 AM
Author: motley zombie-like forum legal warrant

This is correct. At this point in time, I don't think there is anything that can compete with facebook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500763)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 12:54 PM
Author: turquoise institution

Agreed. I look down on XuQa, Friendster, myspace. Their layouts are ugly, searching for people can be a little difficult, and everyone definitely has a facebook account as opposed to these other sites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501219)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:38 PM
Author: Effete dragon locale

I like myspace for people I know who didn't go to college or who haven't been to a 4 year school yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501508)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:52 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Brunch

Did these guys hire an investment bank to value the company?

They could call me, I'd do an offering memorandum for these guys and model the company out for them...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5500871)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:16 PM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501749)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:34 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

Anyone could.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502895)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 6:31 PM
Author: Magical curious trailer park dog poop

You must be joking.

The Facebook guys have some of the most well-connected Silicon Valley VC firms invested in them.

I doubt they deal with Betas.

DEAL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503923)





Date: April 4th, 2006 1:40 AM
Author: wonderful station hairy legs

betas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508203)





Date: October 7th, 2007 1:32 AM
Author: maroon big rehab

I think it's an east coast term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8737490)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:02 PM
Author: blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe

this guy is such an idiot

and a tool in social situations to boot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501267)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:03 PM
Author: motley zombie-like forum legal warrant

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501271)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:06 PM
Author: house-broken beta parlor

You're probably just jealous that he's a multi-millionaire and you're not.

Yes, he was an idiot not to sell, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501287)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:19 PM
Author: blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe

im not jealous....i would never have thought of/been interested in/or capable of creating thefacebook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501380)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:29 PM
Author: Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
Subject: A classmate of yours, no?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501450)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:35 PM
Author: blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe

yep

edit: i just ordered graduation announcements....creepy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501489)





Date: April 6th, 2006 7:02 PM
Author: Emerald angry field

TITCR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5528736)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 1:38 PM
Author: ebony 180 center hissy fit

MySpace has more members, and the more lucrative younger market. Hence, Facebook HS, and its subsequent failure.

MySpace sold for less than $750 million, they should have taken the money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501511)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 6:34 PM
Author: Magical curious trailer park dog poop

MySpace was also a bargain for NewsCorp.

If MySpace had stuck it out, they would've pocketed double what they got.

Facebook's value is not in the quantity of its members, but in its 85% market share of college students.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503961)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:08 PM
Author: buff spectacular roommate boltzmann

Its the 18-25 crowd that almost every company sans Goldbon or Depends absolutely drools over.

Having a registry of 95% of college students in America (including their current interests and attitudes) is certainly worth more to businesses than MySpace. $1.5 billion more, I can't say. But people who say these dudes are idiots for not selling need a freakin clue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501699)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:25 PM
Author: odious set

Maybe. I think most people think theyre idiots because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and no matter how much something is worth its never a terrible idea to cash your chips for 750 million dollars and retire at 24.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501816)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 11:18 PM
Author: Wine soul-stirring pit
Subject: That's the conservative approach

But what if Bill Gates had taken a similar approach? He might be only one of hundreds of billionaires in the country--certainly rich, but not managing one of the largest companies and one of the largest trust funds in the world. No matter what happens, the Facebook founders will always be rich, but it's understandable they chose to take a gamble and keep the company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5506757)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:37 PM
Author: vengeful gas station puppy

I once read an article on this guy in the New York Times or some similar publication. He sounded like a complete ass.

Who honestly cares about Facebook a month after making an account? Sure, there may be a check every now and then, but the novelty quickly wears off. I have confidence that the Facebook bubble will burst within a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501934)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:45 PM
Author: blathering copper fortuitous meteor giraffe

exactly

which is why they should sell now

they are doing a shitty job of making it better anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5501989)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:10 PM
Author: White Floppy Halford

and by the time the novelty wears off it's about time for a new crop of freshmen to create new accounts and use the site nonstop until they eventually get bored of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502141)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:22 PM
Author: vengeful gas station puppy

Point taken.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502237)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:26 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

They can't operate that way, since that means ZERO growth. If they're never going to be more profitable than they are now, their worth isn't anywhere near even $750 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502270)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:40 PM
Author: White Floppy Halford

saying that they'll have zero growth would only make sense if what that other guy said about every single user getting bored with it and not using the site on a frequent basis actually was true. Chances are that isn't the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502392)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:44 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I think it is the case, though. Not on as short of a timeline as he proposed, but certainly there is a window over which interest steadily declines to zero. Aspeople move on to full-time jobs and don't spend as much social time on the web, it definitely falls off. If facebook can somehow expand their site to be more attractive to alums, maybe they'll hold on to this market better, but they haven't done that so far.

The truth is, if facebook had huge growth potential as it currently stands, I don't think they'd sell out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502432)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:21 PM
Author: vengeful gas station puppy

The timeline that I proposed was exaggerated, obviously. However, it was completely true for me. I have almost no interest in Facebook. I used it relatively often initially, which declined to almost never after a month or two. It's boring and a completely lame, unoriginal concept (not to mention a growing one). The success of Myspace and Facebook is a complete fluke. There are a million of these sites appealing to everyone's bizarre voyeuristic tendencies and desperation for hundreds of random assholes to tell them that they want to be their "friend". If people eventually gain higher standards for entertainment and communication, Facebook will fade away.

Unfortunately, I think that you're right. With each new bored member comes 100 new freshman. Not to mention, I'm sure next to no one cancels their account. There's continuous growth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502781)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:49 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I didn't say there's continuous growth. But they aren't done a year in for most of their audience (apparently, 65% of the site checks in daily).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503058)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:55 PM
Author: Ungodly heaven half-breed

When I wrote the Facebook staff demanding to know why they disabled my account (which I am grateful for, by the way), after their initial response, I told them to enjoy the bubble while it lasted and expressed my hope that no one would poke it. They wrote me back an indignant reply to which I never answered, so I'd like to think I got under their skin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503117)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 2:48 PM
Author: Excitant narrow-minded kitty area

*Why* would a company want to buy facebook? What kind of services does facebook offer that renders it valuable? It isn't a search engine, and it is completely free and doesn't charge registration fees, and other than possible advertising (which 99% of students ignore anyway), there's not much one can do with facebook to make money to justify such a high sales price of $750 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502025)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:18 PM
Author: frozen pungent stead

infomation is expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502203)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:25 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I'm trying to envision a scenario where a company would be able to use facebook's information in a profitable way without the audience feeling taken advantage of (and thus migrating to XuQa or somewhere else more "free" to use).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502261)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:28 PM
Author: frozen pungent stead

hmm. they already have "pulse" and that can be viewed by anyone with a fb account....

consumer research comps will want to know that kind of info, but i don't know how that would happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502284)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:41 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I don't think the Pulse is worth much other than as a way to increase the number of page hits visitors go through on the site and to give advertisers a sense of the general audience.

I guess you could make decent money provided really really targeted advertisement (and charging people a ton for it), but I don't think that type of thing would be appreciated by the audience of the site.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502395)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:30 PM
Author: Histrionic immigrant ladyboy
Subject: i can remember when you sneered at Facebook!

I breathlessly reported that they'd zoomed from 10 to 25,000 customers, and you thought XOXO still had a better business plan!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502303)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:32 PM
Author: frozen pungent stead

haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502323)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:38 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I don't think I ever said XO had a business plan, much less a better one.

I definitely sneered at Facebook and sort of continue to. They've ridden this fad particularly well, and I hadn't anticipated that in the slightest. Apparently, the prestige of being on the same service as Harvard carries a lot more weight than I'd assumed.

I didn't and still don't think the business behind their site is quite as potent as you seem to think (college students aren't "customers," for example). When they release revenue numbers, maybe I'll be surprised, but I don't think they make more than $200 million a year, and even at that rate they need to be around for ten more years to break revenue of $2 billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502379)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 6:41 PM
Author: overrated chapel
Subject: 10% of $2 billion is $200 million

I doubt you can find find investments @ 10%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5504021)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 6:51 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Do you understand how this whole money thing works?

10% profit on a $2 billion investment would be awesome. I just said that facebook probably makes less than that in *revenue* per year. If you actually think facebook will be around the 20-50 years it'll take to make that much yearly profit (minus the $2 billion input) even at triple their current size, you're weong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5504151)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 7:44 PM
Author: overrated chapel
Subject: I have a pretty good idea how the *money thing* works

My point was not to suggest that facebook is worth 2 billion (or even $750 million) And I have no idea how long they will be around, I was merely attempting to illustrate how equities are valued. It is all about perceived future earnings.

If in fact they earned anywhere near $200 mill then a $750 mil price would prolly not be so hot, assuming one believed that they would be around. I assume you do not, therefore, I would not recommend you buy into their IPO, unless of course you wished to play the *bigger fool* gamble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5504619)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:19 PM
Author: turquoise institution

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=1#5501699

Hope you don't go into business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502211)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:21 PM
Author: Poppy address

The new world order is trying to assemble a census of its future worker bees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502226)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:47 PM
Author: Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat

the same thing could be said of google - all they "sell" is ads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502460)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:53 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Yeah, but you don't understand the magnitude of Google relative to other sites. Especially the magnitude difference of people *clicking* ads, *paying* for advertisers' services, and using Google as their virtual gateway to the rest of the web.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502516)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:59 PM
Author: Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat

everyone starts with no cash flows - i think it was google's founders themselves who said something like "make something that people will use - the money will follow"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502572)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:02 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Well, it's easy to say that when the something you made was a multibillion dollar business creator (no other search engine was making that type of money before). Notice how almost nothing else Google has produced has revenue on that order. Including Orkut, their social networking site. And facebook doesn't, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502599)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:05 PM
Author: Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat

i'm not calling whether or not facebook will become a 2 billion USD company, but its stakeholders holding onto the option of cashing out at 2 billion rather than 750 million, when only they know what new revenue-generating units they're rolling out makes sense to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502631)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:08 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I'm saying that both offers are ridiculous, regardless of potential plans. Obviously, if you can get $2 billion you should take it.

Or maybe they're making a lot more than I could fathom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502659)





Date: April 4th, 2006 1:43 AM
Author: passionate twisted point

"Or maybe they're making a lot more than I could fathom."

They aren't making anything from what I've heard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508216)





Date: April 4th, 2006 2:07 AM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

You have sources?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508330)





Date: April 4th, 2006 5:01 PM
Author: passionate twisted point

Friend of a friend works there, of course this hinges on the credibility of my friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5511829)





Date: April 6th, 2006 6:54 PM
Author: Emerald angry field

THIS IS THE FUCKING CREDITED RESPONSE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5528677)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:42 PM
Author: sticky nowag mother
Subject: HS facebook

Even more important than the marketing data on Facebook College is Facebook Highschool, the only group that is more fickle than college students.

Kind of interesting idea (am sure I will be mocked for philosophizing). But these social networking sites measure social worth like consumer goods (favorite movies, favorite books, etc), and now their commodifiable value is exactly the same. People were already commodifying themselves like an object on a shelf, and now they will be sold.

Ah well. Facebook made the right choice in not selling. Demos have a high bid price.

Phil

http://www.directorofadmissions.com

http://www.pooruniversity.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502412)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:49 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Facebook is pretty behind when it comes to HS stuff. MySpace and Sconex are pretty much the leaders there.

Even so, I don't know how much money any social networking site can make.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502481)





Date: April 6th, 2006 7:09 PM
Author: Emerald angry field

TITCR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5528787)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:51 PM
Author: Idiotic step-uncle's house toilet seat

i think its doable.

facebook has been tryig hard to make itself one-stop shop for college social networking needs - integrating photo, and new and new features all the time. Information is expensive - and when people voluntary put it up on your servers, you're definitely in luck.

Facebook isn't "going away" anytime soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502501)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:52 PM
Author: sticky nowag mother
Subject: Indirect

It's not the site that makes the money. It's the indirect way that they do it. The TOS for Facebook say that they can do anything with your info, which is frquently very extensive.

Facebook and Facebook HS manage this info in a better and more orderly fashion than other sites. Naturally, if Facebook implemented ads a little better, that would help them turn a profit. But it's the sale of your information that is the real benefit.

I don't think they realized it when they started either. To indulge in a little hyperbole, it's like the discovery of penicillin or something- accidental but genious.

Phil

http://www.directorofadmissions.com

http://www.pooruniversity.com



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502507)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 3:56 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

The facebook information is only worth something when it exists. If I ever get a piece of spam targeted directly at some piece of information I gave out, it will be immediately removed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502542)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:09 PM
Author: sticky nowag mother
Subject: Not Spam

It's not Spam, it's marketing. It's the commodification of all these traits that you think "express" who you are.

EG:

Johnny hears a song on the local radio by the local band "UnKemPt", a neo grunge outfit that, poignantly, phrases exactly all the feelings he has about his ex-girlfriend. He posts them as his favorite Facebook group, as do a hundred other Johnny's, sensitive to the emotional arcs of neo-grunge. Viacom, which has paid exclusive fees to sneak into the emotional lives of Facebook users, notices that in Swifthopton College, where Johnny goes to school, "UnKemPt"

is the number seven band and climbing. They tell MTV who, in turn, tells their various ad affiliates that, with special location released cable advertisements marketing "DisSheveldt", a neo grunge outfit not dissimilar to "UnKemPt", but without a doubt richer and better looking, they can grab the naive and vulnerable Swifthopton College market. Now the cable tubes of Swifthopton and vicinity are inundated with glorious images of "DisSheveldt" hitting a bass guitar on the edge of a sewer drain and Johnny has forgotten that he ever liked "UnKemPt" because hey, who are they anyway, and "DisSheveldt" so much more effectively, attractively, and conventionally evokes the emotions he has had about his ex girlfriend who, in the wave of blasted sound, he has already begun to forget.

That's why Facebook is worth 2 billion.

Phil

http://www.directorofadmissions.com

http://www.pooruniversity.com

Phil

http://www.directorofadmissions.com

http://www.pooruniversity.com



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502669)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:18 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Feel free to use the individual post Reply button.

You didn't actually, you know, lay out an argument there as to how facebook's network has a valuation in anything higher than the hundred millions (if that).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502751)





Date: April 6th, 2006 7:07 PM
Author: Emerald angry field

This so fucking stupid. Companies should spend money on medical research or other worthy causes rather than the pathetic scam known as facebook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5528777)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:16 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Turns out Sconex.com was acquired for $6.1 million last week. The guy who runs it is at MIT, and is a semi-acquaintance. Unless facebook does 100 times the business of this (huge) site, that valuation looks a bit weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502725)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:39 PM
Author: sticky nowag mother

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=www.sconex.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502947)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:39 PM
Author: sticky nowag mother

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=www.facebook.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502954)





Date: April 6th, 2006 7:00 PM
Author: seedy church building idiot

Haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5528715)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:35 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

It could have been us!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5502906)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 4:58 PM
Author: Ungodly heaven half-breed

Maybe rach, GTO, and Boondocks will make us all partners?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503144)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

I get a penny for each post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503175)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

I get a penny for each post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503178)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:10 PM
Author: Ungodly heaven half-breed

That explains all your irrelevant threads and posts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503234)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:26 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

thanks for the contribution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503360)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 5:29 PM
Author: motley zombie-like forum legal warrant

haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5503385)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 6:56 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Depressive Newt

and the double posting bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5504197)





Date: April 3rd, 2006 7:00 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

It's not really a bug, per se. At this point, people are actually clicking Post twice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5504231)





Date: April 4th, 2006 2:14 AM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

no we're not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508356)





Date: April 4th, 2006 2:33 AM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508450)





Date: April 6th, 2006 8:31 PM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

something in the computer realm that i don't understand is posting twice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5529411)





Date: April 4th, 2006 2:34 AM
Author: heady flesh temple

*we* arent, you and bothered are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5508457)





Date: April 6th, 2006 8:31 PM
Author: Nofapping Bearded Queen Of The Night Casino

we're the same poster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#5529413)





Date: October 7th, 2007 3:31 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma death wish

no im not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8739399)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:14 PM
Author: buff spectacular roommate boltzmann

$15 billion bump.

The self-pwnage in this thread makes for good mid-afternoon humor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730580)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:24 PM
Author: Godawful adventurous sanctuary

"The company, the world's biggest software maker, is in talks to purchase as much as 5 percent of Facebook for $300 million to $500 million, the Wall Street Journal reported Sept. 24, citing unidentified people familiar with the matter. That would value Palo Alto, California-based Facebook at as much as $10 billion."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.ZFte3bGgAw&refer=home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730633)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:28 PM
Author: buff spectacular roommate boltzmann

"One sticky issue: A Microsoft investment could ultimately give Facebook ammunition to fuel its own rival technology and advertising platforms. Facebook has aspirations of competing with Google and Microsoft on its own, and has indicated that it might hold out for a higher valuation than Microsoft is willing to agree on -- as much as $15 billion, the people said."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119065193646437586.html?mod=blog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730644)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:34 PM
Author: Godawful adventurous sanctuary

it's only worth what someone will pay for it, and balmer didn't like paying 300-500 mil for a 5% share. it may eventually get $15 bil by creating this goog v. msft competition, but right now, it's worth $10 bil at most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730669)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:37 PM
Author: buff spectacular roommate boltzmann

Still a shrewd move not to sell at $750 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730683)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:44 PM
Author: Godawful adventurous sanctuary

very true, but i expect nothing less from a harvard '-berg'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730715)





Date: October 5th, 2007 1:48 PM
Author: confused skinny woman trust fund

yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730734)





Date: October 5th, 2007 2:29 PM
Author: Aromatic garrison

I think XOXO will have great possibilities once they add me to their executive staff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8730869)





Date: October 6th, 2007 4:56 PM
Author: scarlet theater tattoo

Go Facebook, go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8735083)





Date: October 6th, 2007 10:45 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Territorial School

Deleting my Facebook was the best thing I ever did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8733883)





Date: October 6th, 2007 6:58 PM
Author: lake tanning salon old irish cottage

1.5bil is TCR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8735649)





Date: October 7th, 2007 1:59 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

The covnentional wisdom is that buying a small stake of Facebook at an absurd valuation would be mostly a move to block the sale of the company to anyone. I don't think anyone really believes anyone else would be willing to pay $10 billion to own Facebook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8738991)





Date: October 8th, 2007 1:03 PM
Author: Godawful adventurous sanctuary

Facebook has certainly positioned itself to be extremely valuable to a company like google, who may be able to use the massave amount of (arguably) valid informaion about its users to target advertising.

I have serious doubts as to how well google's algorithms could match advertisers with customers as it is, but as this technology progresses, facebook's information could be worth 2, 3, 4 thousand dollars per person.

P.S. What're you up to these days? (I know that you have no clue who I am, but we used to do math problems on PR together.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8743034)





Date: October 13th, 2007 1:12 AM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

I need to come back to this board more often. I'm coding for OkCupid.com right now.

So as not prolong this argument, I'll keep it short: selling ads for search is *nothing* like selling ads for a casual social network, no matter your targetting technology (and trust me, Google's is better than anyone's will ever be anyway). Here's someone who agrees with me: http://valleywag.com/tech/jason-calacanis/why-facebook-isnt-google-in-100-words-309958.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8761642)





Date: October 19th, 2007 9:40 AM
Author: Godawful adventurous sanctuary

There's no need to come back to this board. I only come around looking for schaddenfreude opportunities with these assholes who took the HYP debate annoyingly far and consequently killed the board.

I agree with the problems in advertising on social networks. (The WSJ had this today: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119273558149563775.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_page_one ). But it still feels like there's tons of potential in owning facebook's database of user information.

Good luck with okcupid and all. I'm looking for you to do big things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8787106)





Date: October 19th, 2007 10:22 PM
Author: maroon big rehab

Facebook is important because it means that, even though it's 10 years on, Harvard still "gets" that whole, you know, computer thing.

We're rootin for ya H!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8789970)





Date: October 24th, 2007 11:59 PM
Author: aggressive famous landscape painting incel

Excellent damage control for saying Facebook is worth less than $750 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8810512)





Date: October 25th, 2007 10:59 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Damage control 17 days before the announcement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8814152)





Date: October 19th, 2007 10:20 PM
Author: maroon big rehab
Subject: how to beat facebook?

iphone sdk is about to come out...hint hint. this should be interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8789962)





Date: October 25th, 2007 10:38 PM
Author: Demanding Sickened Pisswyrm

Wha?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8814005)





Date: October 28th, 2007 3:54 PM
Author: maroon big rehab

exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=392900&forum_id=2#8822586)