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Gun Nuts: rate the Parkland kids proposed 5 Point Policy Agenda
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: thriller theater 1. Fund gun violence research and gun violence prevention/intervention programs.
We must provide the CDC with dedicated funding to research gun violence as a public health issue. Even the original sponsor of the law that limits the CDC’s ability to do this research, former Congressman Jay Dickey, said that it was a mistake. More than 100 medical organizations have called on Congress to restore funding. Furthermore, we believe that gun violence and prevention community work is essential to reducing gun violence and these groups should be funded fully.
2. Eliminate absurd restrictions on ATF.
The gun industry has operated mostly unchecked for far too long. ATF, the only federal agency with jurisdiction to regulate the gun industry, has been operating with one hand tied behind its back – unable to even digitize records of gun sales – or require gun dealers to conduct annual inventory checks to make sure they aren’t missing any guns. The ATF needs to become a modern agency, one capable of keeping receipts and efficiently regulating this massive industry.
3. Universal background checks.
It is too easy to obtain a firearm. Right now, federal law only requires you to obtain a background check if you purchase a gun from a licensed dealer. We must close the private sale loophole and make sure all sales undergo a background check.
4. High-capacity magazine ban.
High-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds serve only one purpose – to allow someone to shoot as many bullets as possible, in the shortest amount of time. These magazines are devastating and need to be banned.
5. Limit firing power on the streets.
Weapons of war have no place in our communities. Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban that prohibits the future production and sale of these weapons and provides a solution for dealing with those assault weapons that are already owned, such as a buyback program or registration. Limiting high-powered weapons to the military has worked elsewhere to eliminate the opportunity for mass shootings. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Swashbuckling Bistre Pocket Flask 1. Why is this within the ambit of the CDC? I'm all for non-partisan gun violence research, but this doesn't fit right to me.
2. Too vague.
3. Fine with me, although I would prefer this at the state level for federalism reasons.
4. This hinders potentially legitimate self-defense, and I'm not sure if it will make much of a difference in actual gun deaths. I'm skeptical, but open to arguments.
5. Too vague. |
Date: March 27th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: thriller theater How has a ban on CDC gun violence studies impacted your militia buildin' and big game huntin' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699547) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Wine appetizing abode CDC is for disease issues. treating the political right to own fire arms as an issue of objective science is an end-run around the political issue. which is why the libs so badly want this and why conservatives should oppose it.
do you think the CDC will do a study about boys growing up without their biological fathers in the house? about boys being given psycho-tropic drugs far more often than girls? about the complete breakdown of the black urban family and its impact on gun violence in St. Louis and Chicago and other Democrat strongholds? not likely. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: green duck-like national 1. Yes.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf
2. Yes.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db135.htm
3. But no CDC studies on black urban family breakdown and impact on gun violence because, you know, ban on CDC research on guns. Thanks for pointing out how dumb that ban is. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Wine appetizing abode welp, i'll be growing a militia-inspired beard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699661) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: turquoise toaster half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708373) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: thriller theater You have no idea what the CDC actually does, got it
Conturds banned funding studies on gun violence and then spent the following years shouting "there's no proof!" and holding video game summits. You really think we can't do better - INCLUDING studies on drugs and inner city shit? |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night you do realize universities can fund and do their own research on guns, correct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699742) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: thriller theater The crowd ITT will surely swallow anything delivered from Academia right?
LOL at them trying to frame the fucking CDC as some kind of deep state org |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon If there are compelling reasons to do those studies, and CDC has the capability to do them, why not? Are you just making a semantic argument about the word "disease?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708714) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Mind-boggling Puce Rigpig Elastic Band Limiting high-powered weapons to the military has worked elsewhere to eliminate the opportunity for mass shootings.
where has this worked? |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Wine appetizing abode Australia, where they confiscated guns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699567) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine And Australia is now very vulnerable to being conquered or invaded or to killing citizens. If the US falls, Australia will be Asian in a decade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708691) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon How would banning guns in America impair the 7th Fleet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708721) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine The 7th fleet wouldn’t be very effective if their moral tanked and/or they stopped getting paid because the economy tanked due to DRUMPF confiscating guns from and killing political enemies at home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708835) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon What if we just continue to arrest illegal gun owners the same way we do now? Would that harm the 7th Fleet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708849) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine You’re proposing changing what illegal means, so yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708863) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon Why does it matter what "illegal" means if the confiscations are done the exact same way they're done now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708967) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine If it doesn’t matter, why do you want to change it?
It matters because everyone knows there is a difference between taking guns from criminals and making ownership a crime. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon "there is a difference between taking guns from criminals and making ownership a crime."
No there isn't. It's already a crime for certain people to have guns. We take guns away from those people. We can just tweak the laws to expand the number of people for whom it's a crime to own a gun. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine But it’s not a crime for most people. You’re so disingenuous I can only assume you are trolling me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709636) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon "But it’s not a crime for most people"
And most people don't own a gun. So there's really no problem there. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine Great then we don’t need to change gun laws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709662) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon It's not a question of need. This is something I would do just to fuck with lazy do-nothing gun owners who have repeatedly failed to honor the intent of the 2A. You've had 200+ years to resist government tyranny and you have never once done it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709959) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: thriller theater (Guy who played Risk last night) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708838) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Swashbuckling Bistre Pocket Flask What is the evidence that this has "worked" in Australia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709485) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon Fewer people own guns there now and Australian society didn't collapse and descend into civil war or become a tyrannical dictatorship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709609) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Swashbuckling Bistre Pocket Flask Uh...so depriving people of rights is it's own reward?
I meant what is the evidence that this has reduced the murder rate in Australia. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon "Uh...so depriving people of rights"
I would just delete the 2A so that it's no longer a right. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Swashbuckling Bistre Pocket Flask LOL
This is flame, right? |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine Right, because the American military Would stop it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709676) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: racy set foreskin no i dont trust you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699577) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Shimmering zippy sanctuary degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699584) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: arousing startled base pervert 1-3 I'm on board with to some degree (but very cautious because we are dealing with libs here), but for 4-5 fuck libs this is dumb (especially 5 - overwhelming majority of gun deaths are not caused by this, but by handguns in urban street crimes) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699592) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: massive theater stage electric furnace the overwhelming majority of gun deaths are suicides or accidents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699595) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: arousing startled base pervert suicides yes, fine, but accidents is not correct. I would be willing to bet money that the vast majority of gun suicides are by handgun as well.
These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: thriller theater I agree that 4-5 get more partisan. 1-3 are no brainers imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699600) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night 1 is retarded. do you seriously trust partisan lib "scientists" on gun research? do you know how they've infiltrated other sciences? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699651) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: thriller theater How do you type covered in tinfoil (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699669) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night how utterly dumb are you about the CDC?
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night oh yes, there's totally not a well-funded nefarious organization behind all this. libs are demonic for using kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699629) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: green duck-like national Are you referring to the NRA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699636) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: thriller theater It's not that well written tbh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699641) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Twinkling rebellious lodge No. If libs weren’t libs then maybe number 1 and 3.
I’m worried number 2 leads to registration which leads to confiscation. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: thriller theater So you're scared of everything. Got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699695) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Twinkling rebellious lodge I’m scared of libs being given an inch and taking a mile because cuckservstives have no spine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699701) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: floppy brunch mental disorder LOL yeah kids totally wrote this. And we need to increase the power of ATF of all things lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699717) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night kids who were rejected from UCF no less. i mean, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699734) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: arousing startled base pervert I'm all for giving ATF more funding. Takes fucking a year to get your suppressor paperwork back now. They are swamped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699785) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: zombie-like site masturbator It's amazing how the Parkland kids sound a lot like general DNC platform points. Dey Woke! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699721) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699736) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: arousing startled base pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699780) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: vigorous big-titted death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699815) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Maroon puppy locale I am vehemently against #1, in part because it singles out "gun violence" (which, by the way, I'm sure won't delve into why black men are so overwhelmingly violent with guns).
If we want to look into more general anomie and the like that leads to unhappiness, social withdrawal, general violence, avoidance of family formation, etc., then I could get on board. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: offensive pit 1 is okay as long as they consider all variables (race). Libs are going to find out they don't fucking love science as much as they thought they did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699871) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Free-loading Arrogant Police Squad Lol at libs ever agreeing to that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699961) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Azure Jewess (retard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699893) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: offensive pit I'll trade you 1-3 for nationwide carry conceal. Otherwise fuck your incremental gun grab.
Limit magazine size to 30 and fuck your black gun ban. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Azure Jewess dont own a gun, never owned a gun, will probably never own a gun and frankly dont give a shit about guns but LOL FUCKING LOL at yielding even an inch on this issue
remember the first step is always reasonable and moral - end segregation/jim crow, Bowers vs Hardwick was a serious invasion of privacy/individual rights, need fair housing act to prevent local townships from stealthily enacting segregation laws. but we all know where libs moved onto after that first step
the only correct response to any modern lib policy impacting fundamental rights/demographics is to NOT YIELD A FUCKING INCH. the substance of the policy proposal absolutely does not matter. Once you yield an inch they will slowly "progress" to total control. What do you think will happen when the next inevitable mass school shooting happens 2 or 3 or 4 years from now even if we adopt these five "common sense" proposals? more policy changes that further erode gun rights
Simply put we have to mimic libs and refuse to yield an inch on core issues like they do. it doesn't matter if it makes us look hypocrites or dumb or dishonest. you think libs will give an inch on affirmative action or immigration or abortion?
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: offensive pit Abortion is a better counter example where one side is disingenuously trying to propose small common sense limitations as incrementally undermining rights. And shitlibs underdtandably know this and oppose ALL abortion restrictions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699900) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Azure Jewess yes abortion is very good analogy for gun rights issue and conservatives have to respond just like how libs respond to any policy proposals involving abortion. at least we have second amendment for gun rights while abortion is a completely made up constitutional right
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: arousing startled base pervert good one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699958) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Free-loading Arrogant Police Squad “remember the first step is always reasonable and moral - end segregation/jim crow, Bowers vs Hardwick was a serious invasion of privacy/individual rights, need fair housing act to prevent local townships from stealthily enacting segregation laws. but we all know where libs moved onto after that first step”
Where did libs move onto? |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Azure Jewess i dont answer rhetorical questions. unless you are rip van winkle you know the answer and what libs are agitating for in 2018 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35699992) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: Free-loading Arrogant Police Squad My question was genuine. I would like some examples so i can point to these when discussing with my friends how libs operate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35700033) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: motley milk faggotry who is the DNC fucktard who came up with this "weapons of war" forcememe? I'm pretty sure we're not sending soldiers into combat with only semiautomatic rifles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35700046) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: zombie-like site masturbator The meaningless term "assault rifle" is getting stale, they need a fresh meaningless term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35700099) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Wine appetizing abode assault rifle is a real term. the problem for libs is that it's virtually impossible for anyone to own a military assault rifle. none of the school shootings were done with an assault rifle.
assault weapon is an undefined term that libs use for sleight of hand. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: offensive pit it's a way to hide the ball from the fact that there is no distinction between an AR15 and any other semiautomatic rifle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35700127) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: primrose circlehead No the point is to eventually make the case that there is NO difference between an AR and other semi automatic rifles, which is why all should be banned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708429) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine Bolt vs gas piston /. Direct impingement is a big difference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708820) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: offensive pit It’s a difference in cleaning you’re gun. It does not make a difference in the velocity of the rounds nor the number of rounds you can shoot in ten minutes before the police get you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709027) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: Twinkling rebellious lodge Bolt vs gas absolutely does have an impact on your rate of fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709167) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709434) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: offensive pit Really? Learn something new. I thought either system could shoot as fast as your finger. Does the difference have a practical application? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709525) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:16 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine You don’t own a bolt gun? After every round there is at least a two second lag to expell the round and load the next that must be done by the shooter. IMO they are not really semi automatic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709554) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: offensive pit Wait, I miss read your initial post but I think you miss read mine. I said that any semi automatic rifle firing the same 5.56 round from a magazine would be basically the same. I thought you were talking about piston versus direct impingement. Not bolt action versus semi automatic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709586) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine Typing from phone...
If libs were smart they’d say keep your bolts but no more gas. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: offensive pit But not applying that to handguns is intellectually inconsistent sense semi automatic handgun's are the most dangerous of all firearms. And the most prevalent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709682) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Charismatic kitty Libs, wil you in turn agree to "eliminate absurd restrictions" on ICE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35700147) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Transparent fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house jew Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban Our nation requires a comprehensive assault weapons ban
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Date: March 28th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: Vivacious gaped wagecucks 1. No. This is a backdoor to gun control 2. No without huge protections in place. The next lib president will use this to effect gun control. So probably No 3. Agreed 4. No 5. No |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: thriller theater The best part ITT is the conservative concession that it would be impossible, inconceivable in their minds that any scientific study on the US's dumb gun policies that won't end up fucking them with cold hard nigga proof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708606) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Crimson national security agency b/c the truth would require libs to admit that of the 30k gun deaths a year, 10k are suicides and probably 18k are blacks killing blacks in chicago, baltimore, detroit, and st louis. yeah, libs are gonna be very honest about that and admit that the real problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708667) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: thriller theater Any gun violence study that ignores race and socioeconomics isn't telling the whole story.
But i wonder if suicides might be impacted by access to guns. Good question. Might not be a bad study topic. It's almost like there's tons of good topics around this that have all been frozen out for some weird reason. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: arousing startled base pervert I haven't seen numbers, only speculating here, but of the 20,000 gun related suicides, almost none (maybe a few hundred at best?) are by "assault rifles" and bans on assault rifles and high capacity magazines wouldn't affect them at all. These are probably almost all handguns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708788) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: thriller theater Wouldn't a study on that (a) support a gun nut talking point and (b) help work towards opportunities to intervene in the mental health/gun problem? That sounds like a win/win but for the fact it would involve gun nuts conceding that people use guns for things beside hunting and militia prepping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708824) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: razzle smoky range you don't need a study to know people use guns to commit suicide. it's not a topic that needs study.
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: razzle smoky range who cares? to what end would it matter? |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: thriller theater Not sure if you've noticed, but a lot of people in this country think the gun situation isn't perfect and would like to consider steps to improve things while remaining sensitive to the existence of responsible gun ownership
It's a thing some people talk about these days |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: razzle smoky range you don't need any preliminary information in order to consider steps to improve things. propose away. discuss away. shitlibs would rather protest and act like hysterical high schoolers, literally, than present possible solutions. that's because the goal is to get rid of guns, not come up with constitutional solutions. they think the protests will change enough minds that everyone will agree guns are bad and to get rid of them.
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:57 PM Author: thriller theater This is the circular logic of Gun Nuts in a (gun)nutshell right here. Shout "who cares? what is the point?" at any proposed regulation to highlight the lack of proof and research on the entire world of guns.
Then... make sure no federal money ever goes to research on the topic. Denounce any private org as being partisan if they consider it, and declare the CDC a deep state org.
Repeat for decades. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon And then get your gun rights taken away by millennials because your arguments only appeal to people who grew up watching John Wayne and Clint Eastwood movies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709957) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night dc has the lowest gun ownership rate but the highest gun murder rates. meanwhile vermont is essentially the opposite. explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708701) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: thriller theater FW FW FW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708740) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night can't refute the poor inverse correlation between gun control and gun murders, huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709217) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon So why are you so afraid to have the CDC look into this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708795) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: razzle smoky range it's not an appropriate topic for them it's a waste of money i don't believe they were neutral when they did do it i suppose legitimate results could help determine if steps taken are effective, but infringement on guns is not a step that is on the table. ever.
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night why should they make policy advice on guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709204) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon Who said anything about them giving policy advice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709937) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night they're free to do research. you do know that right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709992) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: Cocky unholy azn newt When is the last time liberals willingly conceeded ANY issues to conservatives?
A loooong time ago, right? That should tell you how stupid you’d have to be to remotely contemplate making any sort of concessions to liberals. All demands are rejected. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: razzle smoky range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708880) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Poppy Disturbing Roast Beef can we also get the CDC to study the presence of black people as a public health issue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708763) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon You can try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708779) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon Why don't these pussies just call for repeal of the 2A? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708789) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: thriller theater Lots of people want the middle ground between the two equally stupid political extremes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708834) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: electric fishy tanning salon Why not move the overton window? A bunch of dumbass teens are the perfect fodder for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708860) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: thriller theater I don't support a total ban on guns. The NRA devolved from their original good purpose to a full time extreme advocacy org that spends most of their time appealing to fringe dumbs.
I wish we can shut down the NRA, MADD, and PETA in one big Grand Closing. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon You don't have to have a total ban. Just don't make it a fundamental right. Make it like a driver's license where you have to meet minimum qualifications. That way you can enact sensible gun control measures without some Carolina fatass screaming about the Constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709111) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night how would a female in brooklyn protect herself? she'd need 30 days to study and pass written and oral exams on how guns work? wouldn't her stalker rape her by then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709192) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: electric fishy tanning salon How does she protect herself right now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709628) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night with a gun in her home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709703) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: sapphire garrison no they don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709498) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: cerebral naked fat ankles shrine My response is fuck you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708845) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: rose useless halford native whatever DELANEY WANTS, Delaney GETS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35708866) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: spectacular salmon house Maybe 2 & 3, but that's it. Some federally-funded do-nothing study of gun violence and prevention would be pointless. LJL at 10-round max capacity and letting libs decide what scary weapons we need to keep off the streets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709224) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: razzle smoky range 2 is unlikely to accomplish anything worthwhile i could see things related to 3 that would be acceptable, but what i am thinking of would be unlikely to do much other than shut libs down on one of their irrelevant talking points
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: sapphire garrison Never an inch.
In fact, I need MORE.
I DEMAND nationwide concealed.
I DEMAND ear-saving TECHNOLOGY be made easily available to those among us with sensitivities.
I DEMAND the repeal of the treacherous NFA.
I DEMAND the repeal of the treacherous GCA.
I DEMAND the repeal of the treacherous FOPA.
GIVE ME SOMETHING then maybe we can talk. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: big spot Counter proposal: the government issues every American citizen a standard issue M4 and ammo at birth or naturalization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930686&forum_id=2#35709582) |