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Give me Tax Deductions ITT (CSLG)

I'll have about a million in my operating account by the end...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Buy a sports car and get it covered in vinyl advertising you...
Canary State
  03/30/18
that computer you bought chandler
Jet parlour
  03/30/18
I think that was last year, wasn't it?
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
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Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria
  03/30/18
I'm assuming you already write off your home office? For nex...
opaque outnumbered pozpig
  03/30/18
I don't. It's not worth the small write off for the increase...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
cr. home office says "audit me"
topaz set
  03/30/18
Fancy coffeemaker -- some sort of Jura Superautomatic that d...
stirring rose athletic conference partner
  03/30/18
I don't drink coffee. I'd rather set that $1,300 on fire.
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
flame jumped shark here no way your superproducutve jew w...
puce hall twinkling uncleanness
  03/30/18
It's one of life's small pleasures and relatively harmless. ...
stirring rose athletic conference partner
  03/30/18
edit
Honey-headed supple corner immigrant
  03/30/18
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fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Stock the kitchen at your office Get amazing office furni...
Beady-eyed narrow-minded volcanic crater
  03/30/18
Furniture doesn't really make sense. My staff works at my ho...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Put 55k into a SEP IRA
Beady-eyed narrow-minded volcanic crater
  03/30/18
Already do that.
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Vacations to meet prospective clients and explore opportunit...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
I like this one. I should open a Vegas office and do regular...
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  03/30/18
I know people who write off all their trips which I think is...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
not him but of course s-corp is worth it. if you're making o...
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  03/30/18
For me it’s tough because a “reasonable salary” for me is 25...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
lolwut have you talked to a cpa?
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
Yes my cpa said it’s not worthwhile. California also has a ...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
Having a corp significantly lowers your audit risk even if t...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
California taxes s-corps at 1.5%, but what about the federal...
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
The real juicy savings are below the 127k, setting my salary...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
$800 is a minimum tax. if your 1.5% is over $800, it's just ...
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
I made 300k at my previous firm, so it seems hard to say my ...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
irs doesn't make those kinds of distinctions. if you were to...
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
Interesting. Still think it’s right around the 100k mark. H...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
easy. http://www.gusto.com there are others but they are ...
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
do not use PAYCHEX under any circumstances Im likely suin...
puce hall twinkling uncleanness
  03/30/18
That's not the test. The question is how much profit is due ...
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
I’d say it’s very dependent on the services I render to be h...
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
You have many employees or underlings? It's not really a hug...
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
No employees.
Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid
  03/30/18
that's not the question though. the question is, could a 75K...
insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water
  03/30/18
Downside is you also won't max out social security then. If ...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Lots of CLEs in the Caribbean, Hawaii, etc.
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  03/30/18
http://paradisecle.com/
Jet parlour
  03/30/18
wouldn't business originated in Nevada also be better than f...
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  03/30/18
They're actually making the money in Vegas tho, it at least ...
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
right. so couldn't CSLG "acquire" clients/work in...
Floppy Silver Karate Site
  03/30/18
If the case is in nv, and he has an office there, probably. ...
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you looked into a defined benefit plan or cash balance plan?
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Actually yes. I've done a lot of research on this. It's just...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
yeah, if you can do it early, for sure. i have a good define...
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Dude is probably too young for DB plan to bring massive savi...
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Wine giraffe
  03/30/18
Sorry, I already have to care for Chandler.
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Floppy Silver Karate Site
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Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria
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Do you own the real estate where your office is located? Lot...
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  03/30/18
The real estate where my office is located is my paid off ho...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
IMO you're nuts in that case not to be deducting expenses fo...
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
i rushed home wheres the call bro
Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria
  03/30/18
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Unholy Plaza
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I'm not huge into cars. My wife and I had a Hyundai Tucson w...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Sorry you have shitty taste in cars.
Unholy Plaza
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  03/30/18
Hiring an accountant to get your more tax deductions is tax ...
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  03/30/18
I already do all the well known deductions, I'm really looki...
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
All staff trip to a resort, have one 20 minute "brainst...
topaz set
  03/30/18
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Erotic Property
  03/30/18
Spending 10k for a deduction worth 4k is not a fucking savin...
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
Not write offs but your kid and future kid(s) get $2100 of i...
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Yes employing your young children in family business is perf...
Racy orange goyim garrison
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Erotic Property
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He can answer form rogs...
Wine giraffe
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Erotic Property
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Winning audit roulette is not a wise long term strategy
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Erotic Property
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Labor laws are much more relaxed with your own kids but nobo...
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Erotic Property
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You've gotta back out the cost of the as tho... Hard to make...
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Erotic Property
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I understand, but you still have to pay for the ad. Idk what...
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Erotic Property
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It's a creative idea, I'll give you that
Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
Trainings Season tickets/box to entertain clients
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  03/30/18
Isn't the entertainment write off gone?
fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown
  03/30/18
Yes. https://www.cbiz.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il_Gx...
Unholy Plaza
  03/30/18
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puce hall twinkling uncleanness
  03/30/18
You could throw a baller holiday party.
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Erotic Property
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Erotic Property
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Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
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puce hall twinkling uncleanness
  03/30/18
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Cordovan awkward national security agency
  03/30/18
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what's the issue with captive insurance?
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  04/01/18
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Cordovan awkward national security agency
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This is a pretty untested area, but I have seen some good pr...
Tan meetinghouse
  03/30/18
Westlaw subscription.
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  03/30/18
Fine art for your office
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  04/01/18
I watch that movie every single time it's on.
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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I'll have about a million in my operating account by the end of next month. I'm sending out a demand per day now, so money is coming in like crazy.

Taking suggestions on some things to buy/write off (within reason, I want to still keep most to invest). I already bought sick computers for my entire office last year, finally leased a decent car, write off my cell/internet/cable/auto insurance, donate money to the Zoo and Natural history museum, and do a nice dinner once per month on the company card. Give me some other stuff to write off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722335)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 6:18 AM
Author: Canary State

Buy a sports car and get it covered in vinyl advertising your firm. Business write off and it is a moving billboard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723005)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: Jet parlour

that computer you bought chandler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722340)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:03 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I think that was last year, wasn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722396)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722678)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: opaque outnumbered pozpig

I'm assuming you already write off your home office? For next year, I think there's an app that tracks your mileage going to and from work...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722342)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I don't. It's not worth the small write off for the increased audit risk. Especially since I have a real office I pay rent to also.

You don't need to track miles if you just write off your lease. I claim 75% driving for work because we have a second car and I live only 2 miles from my office and work mostly from home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722363)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: topaz set

cr. home office says "audit me"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723653)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: stirring rose athletic conference partner

Fancy coffeemaker -- some sort of Jura Superautomatic that doesn't require a lot of maintenance -- and a coffee subscription.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722345)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I don't drink coffee. I'd rather set that $1,300 on fire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722368)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: puce hall twinkling uncleanness

flame jumped shark here

no way your superproducutve jew without coffee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726078)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: stirring rose athletic conference partner

It's one of life's small pleasures and relatively harmless.

I never drank it until my first BigLaw office had fancy options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726125)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Honey-headed supple corner immigrant

edit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722379)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:03 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722395)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: Beady-eyed narrow-minded volcanic crater

Stock the kitchen at your office

Get amazing office furniture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722418)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Furniture doesn't really make sense. My staff works at my house and I never meet clients. Plus my home office already has comfortable office chairs and motorized stand-up desks. So not much to buy.

As far as stock the kitchen, I guess I could do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722431)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: Beady-eyed narrow-minded volcanic crater

Put 55k into a SEP IRA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722485)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Already do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722576)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:13 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

Vacations to meet prospective clients and explore opportunities in new markets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722439)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I like this one. I should open a Vegas office and do regular "business trips" there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722447)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722451)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:17 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

I know people who write off all their trips which I think is dumb. Still there’s tons of legal conferences you can pop into all over the country. Could be great biz dev as well. I’m also on the solo path. Do you think s corp is worth it? Right now I make 250k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722467)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

not him but of course s-corp is worth it. if you're making over $40K you should do an s-corp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722482)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

For me it’s tough because a “reasonable salary” for me is 250k so I don’t see potential to have any draw not subject to ss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722510)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

lolwut

have you talked to a cpa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722545)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

Yes my cpa said it’s not worthwhile. California also has a tax on s corps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722583)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Having a corp significantly lowers your audit risk even if taxes are the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722588)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:46 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

California taxes s-corps at 1.5%, but what about the federal self employment tax? you pay 12.4% up to $127.2k in salary, and an additional 2.9% with no cap. compare that against 1.5% on the s-corp dividend income at the state level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722637)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

The real juicy savings are below the 127k, setting my salary lower than this at 250k earnings would be risky. also in addition to the 1.5 there’s 800 a year filing fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722741)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:25 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

$800 is a minimum tax. if your 1.5% is over $800, it's just the 1.5%. that's not a filing fee.

what do you mean setting your salary below $250K is risky? what would you pay an associate to do what you do? $50K, right? if you're really risk adverse set it at $75K. you're still saving money.

sounds like your CPA doesn't know wtf he is doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722748)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

I made 300k at my previous firm, so it seems hard to say my services are worth far lower than 250k. I operate in a pricey area, not doing shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722751)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

irs doesn't make those kinds of distinctions. if you were to hire an associate and pay them, what would you pay them? that's a reasonable salary. you're an owner, you supervise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722754)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

Interesting. Still think it’s right around the 100k mark. How much of a pain is setting up the payroll shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722759)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:41 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

easy. http://www.gusto.com

there are others but they are really easy to use, it's what i use. integrates with quickbooks and xero, maybe others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722774)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: puce hall twinkling uncleanness

do not use PAYCHEX under any circumstances

Im likely suing them later this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726100)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

That's not the test. The question is how much profit is due to your labor and how much to your management. If it would cost you a full 250k to replace yourself and it's a one man shop, might be you're right (though you can always get away with SOME dividend). But if you could hire a more or less competent lawyer for 100k, and especially if you have associates and paralegals billing clients, then you can claim and defend a larger dividend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722758)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:35 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

I’d say it’s very dependent on the services I render to be honest. Probable 125-150 is correct. A 75k shitlawyer would not cut it in my area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722761)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

You have many employees or underlings? It's not really a huge deal IMO as SS is only moderately progressive. You should get back a fair amount of what you put in, or you would have if boomers hadn't torched the country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722765)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:41 AM
Author: Infuriating Histrionic Stage Hominid

No employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722775)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:39 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

that's not the question though. the question is, could a 75K shitlawyer *under your supervision* cut it in your area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722769)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:52 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Downside is you also won't max out social security then. If it is still around when you retire, you'll get a lot less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722804)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:59 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Lots of CLEs in the Caribbean, Hawaii, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722664)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:06 AM
Author: Jet parlour

http://paradisecle.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722685)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: Floppy Silver Karate Site

wouldn't business originated in Nevada also be better than from California?

maybe I'm thinking residency.

i dunno, i just know that LA poker players often run a scam to lower their taxes by saying that they are splitting time in Vegas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722670)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:03 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

They're actually making the money in Vegas tho, it at least plausibly claiming to do so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722676)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: Floppy Silver Karate Site

right. so couldn't CSLG "acquire" clients/work in Vegas? say while at the stripclub or the craps table?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722755)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

If the case is in nv, and he has an office there, probably. Idk Cali state rules although I know they're assholes. But signing up a ca client while at the spearmint rhino will not lead to tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722772)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

you looked into a defined benefit plan or cash balance plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722444)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Actually yes. I've done a lot of research on this. It's just a balance between how much I can pull out and how much I have to contribute for my employees. We are doing lunch Wed next week right? I was just about to e-mail you back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722455)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:16 AM
Author: insanely creepy genital piercing boiling water

yeah, if you can do it early, for sure. i have a good defined benefit plan person - i can put you in touch and you can try to work numbers with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722464)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Tan meetinghouse

Dude is probably too young for DB plan to bring massive savings.

Great for a 55 year old Boomer solo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726690)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:16 AM
Author: Wine giraffe

I could be your dependent if you cover more than 1/2 my expenses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722458)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:17 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Sorry, I already have to care for Chandler.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722466)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: Floppy Silver Karate Site

!!!

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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:03 AM
Author: Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria



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Date: March 30th, 2018 7:23 AM
Author: Fragrant Federal Stage

Lolol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723083)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Lascivious Telephone

chandler pwnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723576)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Do you own the real estate where your office is located? Lots of benefits to that, tho you make too much to save much in payroll tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722662)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:54 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

The real estate where my office is located is my paid off house lol. I'm looking for a building to buy to actually put my office in but there are slim pickings in Woodland Hills and I won't move my office out of the area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722806)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

IMO you're nuts in that case not to be deducting expenses for part of your house, fuck the audit risk you sound like the rest of your shit is in order

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726586)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: Vibrant Seedy School Cafeteria

i rushed home wheres the call bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35722677)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 7:13 AM
Author: Unholy Plaza

Buy a real office.

Upgrade business vehicle to 911 cabrio or RR ghost.

Look into opening office at big bear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723073)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I'm not huge into cars. My wife and I had a Hyundai Tucson we shared for 6 years. We finally got our own cars 6 months ago. I got a 330i and she got an X3 because we have a baby now. Total lease payments are only about 800 between the two. And that still is way more than I like spending on cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723555)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Unholy Plaza

Sorry you have shitty taste in cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726139)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: crawly pea-brained coldplay fan

Business development, peterman meetings - $20,000

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723561)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: twinkling demanding quadroon

Hiring an accountant to get your more tax deductions is tax deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723573)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I already do all the well known deductions, I'm really looking for fun deductions now for shit I wouldn't normally buy myself but might as well splurge on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723822)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: topaz set

All staff trip to a resort, have one 20 minute "brainstorming" meeting while there--do a wine spendy thing at luxury dinners while there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723648)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

I'm actually doing a firm retreat to Santa Barbara for wine tasting and skydiving since we settled a case recently for 1 mil. Trip will only cost a few grand though. More to make my employees happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723814)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726661)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Spending 10k for a deduction worth 4k is not a fucking savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726597)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Racy orange goyim garrison

Not write offs but your kid and future kid(s) get $2100 of investment income at their tax rate so you can shelter some investment income that would otherwise be taxed at 23.8% with them in a UTMA accounts. If you don’t want to leave much money with them at 18 in that account (which I don’t), put it in a high yield stock or bond index fund yielding 3-4% and spend from that on their expenses (anything is fine, soccer lessons, braces, preschool etc).

Also once your kids are a reasonable age (like 7), make them w2 employees in your business. Because they are your kids, you DO NOT pay FICA on their wages and you can write off the expenses. Furthermore, thhey They pay taxes at their tax rates. Win win for everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35723943)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: laughsome lilac temple mad-dog skullcap

are you sure this is legal? i thought you had to be like 14 to work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35724043)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: Racy orange goyim garrison

Yes employing your young children in family business is perfectly legal and not subject to labor laws (unless your family business is something dangerous like mining).

However this has be a family business like a LLC where one or both parents are the only members. This is why people start a family LP and then “pay” their kids to paint the house. For a law business, his young children can do stuff like cleaning the office and filing. In reality you control any money you pay them so it’s just a tax sheltering strategy.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2017/07/when-can-i-put-my-kids-to-work-in-the-family-business-legally.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726052)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Employing a 7 year old at the law firm? This is fucking terrible advice, Jesus Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726613)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726629)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Wine giraffe

He can answer form rogs...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726965)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

The fuck is Chandler supposed to do all day if the kid is taking that jerb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726977)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726987)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Winning audit roulette is not a wise long term strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726622)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726644)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Labor laws are much more relaxed with your own kids but nobody is gonna buy that your 2nd grader really worked at your PI shop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726740)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726791)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

You've gotta back out the cost of the as tho... Hard to make a profit that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726807)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

I understand, but you still have to pay for the ad. Idk what those cost, it's a good idea that might work on paper, but he's got 7 figs of income to work with... How much time u wanna spend to shelter a couple grand... Unless he was gonna do ads anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726844)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726865)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

It's a creative idea, I'll give you that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726925)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Yellow forum hairy legs

Trainings

Season tickets/box to entertain clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35724428)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

Isn't the entertainment write off gone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726072)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Unholy Plaza

Yes.

https://www.cbiz.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il_GxSZfnRY%3D&portalid=0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726173)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: puce hall twinkling uncleanness

great thread moar plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726121)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Unholy Plaza

You could throw a baller holiday party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726180)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: fuchsia swashbuckling hospital clown

My wife and I both work from home. So I regularly have sex with my wife during the day and then take a 20 minute nap. Not sure I need a nap pod. Good suggestion though!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726556)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: Erotic Property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726563)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

Cslg, there was an old thread with a tax guy discussing the best semi legit tax shelters from a few years ago. I can't find it but may have it bookmarked at home, I'll look when I return on Sunday.

I did come across this

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934421

Stay away from captive insurance, Cali. Bad stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726723)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: puce hall twinkling uncleanness

plz bump when you get home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726863)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

I'll remember, visiting family til Sunday and don't have puter.

But heed my warning on captive insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726920)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

I just bumped this:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1926338&mc=28&forum_id=2

Which is not the one I was thinking of, there was another longer and more recent poast that I remember included captive insurance among maybe 10 strategies, but I can't find that one... this is the one I had bookmarked. I encourage you to seek real counsel before employing any strategies in that thread, I think most of them are liable to get you fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35738954)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: fluffy area gaming laptop

what's the issue with captive insurance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35738986)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

It's the subject of a nationwide coordinated audit program. It's still great for large companies and also for smaller companies that have real, substantial insurance costs and/or losses (medical stop loss, worker's comp, etc.) but the low frequency, high severity coverages that many were using to reduce taxes are getting fucked in the ass. All that kind of stuff is now formally a Transaction of Interest. Google Notice 2016-66 and 2017-08. Then google "Avrahami captive insurance," where the taxpayer took it right in the ass in tax court. Those were bad facts but no way a law firm that works out of its owner's house has the kind of actuarial risk necessary to generate anywhere NEAR the kinds of premiums these captive owners want to pay (and deduct). The jig is up on that kind of shit and the IRS is thirsty for blood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35739012)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: Tan meetinghouse

This is a pretty untested area, but I have seen some good presentations by reputable lawyers/accountants on having trusts become owners of your business to get that pass through deduction.

I think you got one young kid. You could have a trust for them setup.

You could also likely do something with your parents.

Lots of young tech Bros who hit it big, unmarried and no kids doing estate/tax planning With trust structures involving their parents.

If you aren't doing S Corp LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726763)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: pink sadistic associate

Westlaw subscription.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726953)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: judgmental kitty cat

Fine art for your office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35726979)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: judgmental kitty cat

If you like maps, sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35727345)



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Date: March 30th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Erotic Property



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Date: March 30th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Nubile electric sandwich

Buy office building if haven’t. Maybe some nice art for office? New car.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35727450)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: Purple station police squad

a stamp with an upsidedown airplane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35738959)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: Cordovan awkward national security agency

I watch that movie every single time it's on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35738978)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: Purple station police squad



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