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What is the alleged legal justification for ignoring attorney-client privilege

in this scenario?
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
do you honestly believe a lawyer can say or do anything to a...
sick citrine dilemma
  04/09/18
Getting probable cause to go around the presumption of privi...
Violet home affirmative action
  04/09/18
pretty much
mustard odious point personal credit line
  04/09/18
FIRST, How are they "ignoring" it?
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
This is the worst possible hot take.
supple coral skinny woman market
  04/09/18
Are you capable of responding substantively? Do you think...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
I think we have some serious prosecutorial mission creep. We...
supple coral skinny woman market
  04/09/18
OP is about ACP, not mission creep
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
"We are supposed to be investigating" *We* in t...
fragrant party of the first part bbw
  04/09/18
what was ken starr supposed to be investigating????
Internet-worthy motley gas station electric furnace
  04/09/18
lawyer is literally a criminal
Trip mischievous azn sneaky criminal
  04/09/18
Trump is Hitler
Soul-stirring sadistic hall
  04/09/18
Trump said pussy
wonderful hairy legs
  04/09/18
Trump is said pussy while being Hitler
Aphrodisiac House-broken Site
  04/09/18
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Excitant Business Firm
  04/09/18
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vengeful stage
  04/09/18
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Greedy sandwich
  04/09/18
just do have your lawyer commit crimes for you
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
so I assume this is it?
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
Yeah, I would imagine. I honestly do not know enough about t...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Not really. ACP is a big deal. Investigation already seems...
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
Pretty sure the crime-fraud exception is a clearly establish...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
depends on the evidence for the crime and what ACP communica...
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
Well that's why I hedged because I haven't had time to read ...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
If this wasn't otherwise a witch hunt I wouldn't
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
lol come on bro
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Why did the trump appointed USA in the SDNY sign off on it t...
razzle-dazzle reading party
  04/09/18
oh so now we are moving goalpoasts around. Who knows or ...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
It's the libs acting like he's got all their communications ...
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
what do you mean? Presumably the recovery would be limi...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
We don't know that the feds will even review the files. I im...
Flesh Multi-colored Spot Water Buffalo
  04/09/18
So then what's the justification for them taking physical co...
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
Credible fear that they will be destroyed. Do you even law?
razzle-dazzle reading party
  04/09/18
Google “taint team”
Erotic Marvelous Property
  04/09/18
"No evidence has been released about any collusion"...
fragrant party of the first part bbw
  04/09/18
$130,000 that's not enough to justify what is going on. wha...
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
Trump, just like Hitler, ended democracy by being democratic...
Lemon nibblets alpha
  04/09/18
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bonkers azure state
  04/09/18
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Transparent temple
  04/10/18
To answer the question more properly, given OP's apparent li...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
lol brother you're self pwning https://www.law.cornell.ed...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
lmao spaceporn you are a great poster but come on
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
...
Costumed Ultramarine Associate
  04/09/18
you too. you don't even law. Come and fix my hvac, bro. i'...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
okay explain to me how I haven't answered the OP? The cri...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
What is the exact crime he used the lawyer to commit again?...
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
lol you cant know the details of the allegations or what was...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
Ljl. Guess we should just trust them!
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
In this regard and in this limited context at this particula...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
how am I self pwning?
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
link to FRE 503(d)(1)?
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
fair. not enacted. Your right. That said, before the ...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
lmao you can't pull the "do you even law bro" card...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
yeah. my bad. FWIW the rule DOES exist, its just not c...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
Walk me through why a rule of evidence matters with respect ...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
hold on hold on. First, Atty-client privilege is a PRIV...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
god you are retarded This is a fourth amendment issue and...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Brutal
Brindle titillating national blood rage
  04/09/18
I don't disagree that its a 4th amendment issue. That said,...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
ACP only matters in this case insofar as it intersects with ...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
"What is the alleged legal justification for ignoring a...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
Do I need to walk you through how the issue of whether the e...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Why would you do that when Ive already said that the AC priv...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
Lets start here: ACP is not a constitutional right. Agree or...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
We are not starting anywhere, dipshit. Your wasting my time...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
pls respond
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
for starters, I could see a 4th amendment argument being rai...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
how do you think Mueller got his warrant, dumbass?
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
jfc. when the warrant was sworn, probable cause was dem...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
Disengage, this TTT idiot is utterly retarded
Stimulating halford
  04/09/18
waiting for your expert 4th amendment analysis ITT
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Dumb shit, the 4th amendment is only marginally at play here...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
holy shit you're retarded.
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
Good lord you are an idiot. I've told you to stop posting in...
Stimulating halford
  04/09/18
tell me more about the impact of the rules of evidence on 4A...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
You know, btw, your 4th amendment argument on this matter is...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
lmao you're done here. And for the record, I actually thi...
stirring quadroon heaven
  04/09/18
I'm not done anywhere. Esp when you think the better respon...
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
It's weaksauce justification in any court of law as well.
bat shit crazy crusty pisswyrm
  04/10/18
clearly not in this case.
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/10/18
lol
Costumed Ultramarine Associate
  04/09/18
Mostly covered above plus libs are ir8 that Melania and Ivan...
Mauve church building
  04/09/18
I've had enough of their breast implant bashing
Slimy brunch
  04/09/18
Mueller just horny and hoping to find naughty pics on phone...
Mauve church building
  04/09/18
well CNN said it was fine
vengeful stage
  04/09/18
because it is.
Orchid alcoholic ratface
  04/09/18
*slips on a banana peel*
vengeful stage
  04/09/18
Anyone remember when lawyers poasted here?
Vigorous space
  04/09/18
Who needs lawyers. Mark Wohlers is SURE it's a witch hunt.
henna naked doctorate base
  04/09/18
cold hard truth, trump has probably waived so much shit via ...
Chartreuse stain
  04/09/18
LMAO and yes
Arousing judgmental ladyboy immigrant
  04/09/18
that's not how it works. he could waive 99% of it and the 1...
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
Always forget how dumb you are.
razzle-dazzle reading party
  04/09/18
run with this, fuckstick. show everyone how smart you are
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
wtf is this? Judge Judy has given better legal analysis.
Arousing judgmental ladyboy immigrant
  04/09/18
not even a litigator but literally wrong waiver of one ma...
Chartreuse stain
  04/09/18
cite
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
http://apps.americanbar.org/litigation/committees/intellectu...
Chartreuse stain
  04/09/18
no. i'm 2/3 through this and it is about patent infringement...
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
see above, not a litigator, but give me something to proofre...
Chartreuse stain
  04/09/18
what i'm finding that supports your position, more or less, ...
Avocado legend
  04/09/18
120
bat shit crazy crusty pisswyrm
  04/10/18
Spaceporn has a 150 iq
Dun Talented Karate
  04/09/18
...
fear-inspiring wine milk school cafeteria
  04/10/18
One day our children will ask what we did to reclaim our Dem...
Greedy sandwich
  04/09/18
maybe crime fraud exception though i dont know what the crim...
Internet-worthy motley gas station electric furnace
  04/09/18
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exce...
electric learning disabled idea he suggested
  04/10/18
Trump said pussy.
Vibrant Jet Office
  04/10/18
a privilege was ignored
green frozen wagecucks roast beef
  04/10/18


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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

in this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800693)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: sick citrine dilemma

do you honestly believe a lawyer can say or do anything to a "client" and that's protected by ACP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801297)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Violet home affirmative action

Getting probable cause to go around the presumption of privilege takes some 180 facts in your favor. Cohen is royally fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801788)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: mustard odious point personal credit line

pretty much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802365)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

FIRST, How are they "ignoring" it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800703)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: supple coral skinny woman market

This is the worst possible hot take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800706)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

Are you capable of responding substantively?

Do you think the FBI just "ignored" atty-client privilege before its raid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800722)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: supple coral skinny woman market

I think we have some serious prosecutorial mission creep. We are supposed to be investigating Russian collusion, not porn star payoffs and boorish behavior of Trump in general. This investigation should not involve Jill Stein AND Stormy Daniels. This is ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800743)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

OP is about ACP, not mission creep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800751)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800830)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: fragrant party of the first part bbw

"We are supposed to be investigating"

*We* in this case is SDNY, not Mueller.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801737)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: Internet-worthy motley gas station electric furnace

what was ken starr supposed to be investigating????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803325)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Trip mischievous azn sneaky criminal

lawyer is literally a criminal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800707)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic hall

Trump is Hitler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800708)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: wonderful hairy legs

Trump said pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800712)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac House-broken Site

Trump is said pussy while being Hitler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800730)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Excitant Business Firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800755)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: vengeful stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801140)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Greedy sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803307)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

just do have your lawyer commit crimes for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800739)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

so I assume this is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800776)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Yeah, I would imagine. I honestly do not know enough about the scope of their search and shit to state whether it actually falls under the crime-fraud exception, but reptiles are being a little histrionic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800809)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

Not really. ACP is a big deal. Investigation already seems like a witch hunt. No evidence has been released about any collusion with Russia after over a year of investigating and now they are breaking his ACP. I believe we are under- reacting to this deep state threat to democracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800859)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Pretty sure the crime-fraud exception is a clearly established exception to ACP. This isn't THAT ground breaking to invoke it here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800867)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

depends on the evidence for the crime and what ACP communications they "violate"

I don't' think a crime necessarily gives a license to review all ACP but maybe i'm wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800891)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Well that's why I hedged because I haven't had time to read exactly what the scope of the search they're conducting. You shouldn't just dismiss it as unconstitutional out of hand, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800911)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

If this wasn't otherwise a witch hunt I wouldn't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800928)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

lol come on bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800933)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle reading party

Why did the trump appointed USA in the SDNY sign off on it then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802665)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

oh so now we are moving goalpoasts around.

Who knows or has any idea at this point regarding the scope of the warrant? But the basis for the warrant would be suitable evidence that the crime fraud exception applies to at least some portion of the office's records.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800914)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

It's the libs acting like he's got all their communications now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800937)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

what do you mean?

Presumably the recovery would be limited in scope although, who knows, the court could order ALL of it for now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800983)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Flesh Multi-colored Spot Water Buffalo

We don't know that the feds will even review the files. I imagine they have serious concerns about both subpoena compliance and potential destruction of evidence and thus want the files in their control. Certainly possible that they load everything onto a review platform and tell Cohen's monkeys to start tagging shit and produce a privilege log. Hard to say that ACP has been violated at this point just because the government took control of potentially privileged docs pursuant to a warrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801007)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

So then what's the justification for them taking physical control?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801055)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle reading party

Credible fear that they will be destroyed. Do you even law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802670)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Erotic Marvelous Property

Google “taint team”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803085)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: fragrant party of the first part bbw

"No evidence has been released about any collusion"

Which isn't relevant to potential election or banking crimes related to Stormy and campaign finance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801774)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: Avocado legend

$130,000

that's not enough to justify what is going on. what are they going to find? that trump actually knew about the payoff!!???

how much of the money in trump's campaign chest was his own? way way the fuck more than $130,000.

but this is a technical viowation!!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801823)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: Lemon nibblets alpha

Trump, just like Hitler, ended democracy by being democratically elected by people who did not understand how problematic it was that he said pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800746)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: bonkers azure state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802581)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Transparent temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805821)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

To answer the question more properly, given OP's apparent limitations in thinking clearly:

Rule of evidence 503(d)(1).

Lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800825)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

lol brother you're self pwning

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

also I'm no crim pro masterman, but not sure what exactly the rules of evidence have to do with the validity of a search warrant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800853)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

lmao spaceporn you are a great poster but come on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800872)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Costumed Ultramarine Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800881)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

you too. you don't even law. Come and fix my hvac, bro. i'l throw a few pennies at you.

Funny moniker btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800923)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

okay explain to me how I haven't answered the OP?

The crime fraud exception is pretty clearly delineated. It's sort of a no-brainer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800899)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

What is the exact crime he used the lawyer to commit again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800997)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

lol you cant know the details of the allegations or what was represented to the judge concerning the alleged crime! Didn't we talk about this before when Trump had that whole "bombshell" memo a few weeks back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801015)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

Ljl. Guess we should just trust them!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801041)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

In this regard and in this limited context at this particular moment in the process, yes, that is correct.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801063)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

how am I self pwning?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800889)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

link to FRE 503(d)(1)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800920)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

fair. not enacted. Your right.

That said, before the hooting starts, WHY wasn't it enacted? (Answer: Because it already exists at common law).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800934)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

lmao you can't pull the "do you even law bro" card when you're citing to rules that don't exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800939)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

yeah. my bad.

FWIW the rule DOES exist, its just not codified as I cited. It's a matter of common law though. I'm sure this is weaksauce justification on xo, but the rule is why the FBI got the records.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800977)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:40 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Walk me through why a rule of evidence matters with respect to a 4A matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800991)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

hold on hold on.

First, Atty-client privilege is a PRIVILEGE, which is not quite the same thing as a rule of evidence.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801001)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

god you are retarded

This is a fourth amendment issue and you've been citing to the rules of evidence this entire time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801025)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Brindle titillating national blood rage

Brutal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801045)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

I don't disagree that its a 4th amendment issue. That said, the atty-client privilege is what OP's asking about, is it not?

EDIT: not really a 4th amendment issue as I think about it. I wouldn't raise it. it would be tacky as shit to raise, but I'm sure some hacks would do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801047)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

ACP only matters in this case insofar as it intersects with 4A. ACP itself is not a constitutional right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801060)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

"What is the alleged legal justification for ignoring attorney-client privilege in this scenario?"

Was I hallucinating or was this not the question that was asked?

Didn't you yourself say as much a few poasts back?

Date: April 9th, 2018 5:12 PM

Author: I'm a chad btw

OP is about ACP, not mission creep



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801077)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Do I need to walk you through how the issue of whether the evidence would be admissible in a trial is different from whether there is a reasonable expectation of privacy in the communication under the 4th Amendment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801104)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

Why would you do that when Ive already said that the AC privilege is a PRIVILEGE which is different from a rule of evidence? Why are you not getting this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801127)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

Lets start here: ACP is not a constitutional right. Agree or disagree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801137)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

We are not starting anywhere, dipshit. Your wasting my time with this fucked up misguided law school student analysis. You've got it all bolloxed up, chad.

I blame myself for revving you up by citing something incorrectly earlier, but your reasoning throughout this thread is just SPS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801203)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

pls respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801205)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

for starters, I could see a 4th amendment argument being raised and getting the back of the hand very quickly. It's a dumbass christer law school hillbilly hick argument in this context, and the judge will know it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801226)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

how do you think Mueller got his warrant, dumbass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801360)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

jfc.

when the warrant was sworn, probable cause was demonstrated and the crime fraud exception to the ACP was applied, w suitable and appropriate precautions such as sealing whatever is produced.

the 4th amendment only applies here to the extent that it directs probable cause to be demonstrated before a warrant is issued.

I can virtually PROMISE you more was shown to enable the court to apply the exception to the atty client privilege than was shown for simply obtaining a warrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801403)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Stimulating halford

Disengage, this TTT idiot is utterly retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801112)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

waiting for your expert 4th amendment analysis ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801121)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

Dumb shit, the 4th amendment is only marginally at play here. how mch fucking mileage do you think an atty who tries to use his own 4th amendment right when it comes to the atty-client privilege crime fraud exception will hold? Give me a fucking break w this libertarian hillbilly shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801277)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

holy shit you're retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801363)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Stimulating halford

Good lord you are an idiot. I've told you to stop posting in Mueller threads and yet you persist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801103)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

tell me more about the impact of the rules of evidence on 4A scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801109)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

You know, btw, your 4th amendment argument on this matter is pretty hokey. Are you some sort of liberty university ls student?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801183)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: stirring quadroon heaven

lmao you're done here.

And for the record, I actually think Mueller was probably legally justified assuming they have probable cause. I just took exception with your hamfisted attempts to defend it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801202)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

I'm not done anywhere. Esp when you think the better response to the OP's question is to reference the 4th amendment--a hot subject in the context of atty-client papers, lol. Also, you've got atty-client privilege all fucked up. Better hit the casebook, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801217)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: bat shit crazy crusty pisswyrm

It's weaksauce justification in any court of law as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805726)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

clearly not in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35806006)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Costumed Ultramarine Associate

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800874)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Mauve church building

Mostly covered above plus libs are ir8 that Melania and Ivanka are hot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35800832)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Slimy brunch

I've had enough of their breast implant bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801013)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Mauve church building

Mueller just horny and hoping to find naughty pics on phones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801074)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: vengeful stage

well CNN said it was fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801143)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Orchid alcoholic ratface

because it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801236)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: vengeful stage

*slips on a banana peel*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801281)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Vigorous space

Anyone remember when lawyers poasted here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801370)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: henna naked doctorate base

Who needs lawyers. Mark Wohlers is SURE it's a witch hunt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35801674)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Chartreuse stain

cold hard truth, trump has probably waived so much shit via twitter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802590)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Arousing judgmental ladyboy immigrant

LMAO and yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802915)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Avocado legend

that's not how it works.

he could waive 99% of it and the 1% is still sacrosanct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802932)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle reading party

Always forget how dumb you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802955)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: Avocado legend

run with this, fuckstick. show everyone how smart you are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802977)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: Arousing judgmental ladyboy immigrant

wtf is this? Judge Judy has given better legal analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802964)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: Chartreuse stain

not even a litigator but literally wrong

waiver of one matter as to a/c privilege waives anything with same subject matter

waiver of work product is only as to that specific matter of privilege

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35802966)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: Avocado legend

cite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803053)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:58 PM
Author: Chartreuse stain

http://apps.americanbar.org/litigation/committees/intellectual/articles/summer2012-0912-waiver-attorney-client-privilege-work-product-immunity-prelitigation-opinion-trial-counsel.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803112)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: Avocado legend

no. i'm 2/3 through this and it is about patent infringement and doesn't support your assertion from what i've read so far.

if you disagree, point out why i'm wrong, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803297)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: Chartreuse stain

see above, not a litigator, but give me something to proofread and it will be typo free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803316)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: Avocado legend

what i'm finding that supports your position, more or less, is when it's like rule of completeness stuff and sometimes when it's only disclosures in court

i'm not seeing anything that suggests

oh my attorney said talking about stormy being a whore is okay

means that you waive everything the attorney said about stormy

that doesn't make any sense and i'm not familiar with an attorney ever being called as a witness because the client waived similarly

i'm fine with being corrected, though



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803370)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: bat shit crazy crusty pisswyrm

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805741)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Dun Talented Karate

Spaceporn has a 150 iq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803030)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:41 AM
Author: fear-inspiring wine milk school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35804678)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: Greedy sandwich

One day our children will ask what we did to reclaim our Democracy from Trump, who was a white male Hitler and said "pussy".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803313)



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Date: April 9th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: Internet-worthy motley gas station electric furnace

maybe crime fraud exception though i dont know what the crime or fraud is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35803330)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: electric learning disabled idea he suggested

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805546)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: Vibrant Jet Office

Trump said pussy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805597)



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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: green frozen wagecucks roast beef

a privilege was ignored

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3943909&forum_id=2#35805735)