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Californiamos: do you ever feel you are paying too much taxes?

You see your gross income and then you see you net income? D...
Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
Yeah, of course, but it's like this in most states with jobs...
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  04/16/18
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talking flirting double fault international law enforcement agency
  04/16/18
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Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
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marvelous rebellious stead
  04/16/18
Positive they never feel this way.
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  04/16/18
I do, but then I think of all the good things the CA governm...
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  04/16/18
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Aggressive Crotch
  04/17/18
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  04/17/18
As long as the tax money is going towards shelters and progr...
Saffron hairraiser space
  04/16/18
Cr it should also go to manatory white privilege training f...
rough-skinned mind-boggling property therapy
  04/22/18
Of course they do, that's why anyone with any money tries to...
carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
Very odd case
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
I'm all for anyone paying as little in taxes as possible -- ...
carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
So basically you’re saying you don’t respect any libs
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
I mean I could in theory. As an example, Jimmy Kimmel mak...
carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
or, alternatively, someone like zuckerberg could give more t...
startling theatre
  04/16/18
anti-semite
Shaky partner
  04/17/18
tbf, that was just so he could brag about his income.
startling theatre
  04/16/18
Only tolerate it because of how much household income we can...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
No issue with the state income tax?
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
Not thrilled with it, but I could accept it if I wasn’t flee...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
protip: you just listed the "great things that exist he...
startling theatre
  04/16/18
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Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
What great things exist in CA that don't exist elsewhere?
Dark Turdskin
  04/16/18
Syringes in San Fran
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
Access to varied nature is pretty big. In norcal you're wit...
turquoise dashing spot
  04/16/18
Gets old after a bit
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
LOL i think you've used this "bucket-list" type pl...
Dark Turdskin
  04/16/18
Bro, it's way more than Yosemite. And that flight from NYC ...
turquoise dashing spot
  04/16/18
Great things do do once or twice, but not worth having to be...
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
All this. I'm a 15 minute drive down 92 to the beach wheneve...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
You mean going to half moon bay? Isn't it cold as fuck and o...
Dark Turdskin
  04/16/18
Probably HMB and the other beaches along the coast south fro...
turquoise dashing spot
  04/16/18
It's not a tropical beach, but it's completely acceptable to...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
That last one is $cam & fraud. I've held on to cars ...
vermilion razzle resort
  04/16/18
Precisely - for someone who likes cars, if I didn't have to ...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
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Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
The government at all levels constantly is trying to take mo...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
>Cap gains taxed as ordinary income This is good thou...
wonderful circlehead
  04/17/18
(No coiner)
rough-skinned mind-boggling property therapy
  04/22/18
It's all I've ever known.
well-lubricated national quadroon
  04/16/18
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Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
All the time. I just moved here in the last year from Austin...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
Whch state ideally?
Excitant church hunting ground
  04/16/18
Ideally I would be living in Jackson Hole. Realistically pro...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
Thoughts on Houston? More jobs there than ATX
histrionic translucent brunch sweet tailpipe
  04/16/18
Weather is a nightmare, it is overrun with minorities, and i...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
you also chose to live in one of the worst parts of CA again...
adventurous gas station
  04/17/18
I grew up in a really high tax east coast area, so it doesn'...
Dark Turdskin
  04/16/18
I feel like I am being raped on a daily basis and practicall...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
Then move
Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
I intend to. The only reason we moved here is because of my ...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
How about not being surrounded by redneck proles Having m...
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  04/16/18
Austin, Dallas, and Houston have tons of great food besides ...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
LOL brother plenty of illegals in socal and bay area. Not su...
Dark Turdskin
  04/16/18
Austin is humid as fuck - I used to live there. But CR for t...
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
what makes me MAF isn't the high taxes. I could pay Swedish-...
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  04/16/18
I would still be MAF, but that adds to my annoyance.
Titillating locus personal credit line
  04/16/18
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  04/16/18
This.
multi-colored rehab
  04/16/18
The state taxes dont make me as mad as prop 13 and prop 55 w...
Overrated idiotic messiness menage
  04/16/18
prop 13 is a great example of how careful you need to be whe...
carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
Prop 13 applies to commercial properties as well and indeed ...
Overrated idiotic messiness menage
  04/16/18
I can't opine as to what that would do to the real estate ma...
carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
CR. howard jarvis was a fraudlies peddler who hoodwinked st...
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  04/16/18
Prop 13 is pretty terrible in the sense that it doesn't just...
crusty zippy yarmulke
  04/16/18
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carnelian water buffalo ticket booth
  04/16/18
I’m fine with getting rid of prop 13 for primary residences ...
Overrated idiotic messiness menage
  04/16/18
nah. employers will stay put. you cannot replicate SV anywhe...
Shaky partner
  04/17/18
prop 13 and prop 58 (which is what i assume you meant) is co...
Galvanic Mewling Home Clown
  04/22/18
also that it applies to commercial properties is ridiculous....
Galvanic Mewling Home Clown
  04/22/18
Lol @ calicucks
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  04/16/18
Out of 100 illegals in California, how many pay for their he...
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  04/17/18
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  04/22/18
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  04/16/18
I love looking at my tax return, then walking a few blocks, ...
Exhilarant sooty lay prole
  04/16/18
You live in Santa Ana, Anaheim, Los Angeles?
Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/16/18
Santa Monica
Exhilarant sooty lay prole
  04/16/18
Now imagine how you will feel when you sign your big contrac...
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  04/17/18
The tax rate would be fine if they used it on environmental ...
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  04/16/18
Lolwut
Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/17/18
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Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/17/18
tbf, in SoCal, the beach is 20-30 minutes away and the weath...
Galvanic Mewling Home Clown
  04/22/18
So its worth it?
Disgusting goal in life jap
  04/22/18
It definitely sucks. However, any time I travel domestically...
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  04/22/18
Lol
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  04/22/18
Tbf I live in a nice area in so cal without homeless people....
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap

You see your gross income and then you see you net income? Do you ever get irate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852148)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: turquoise dashing spot

Yeah, of course, but it's like this in most states with jobs. Some cities have local income taxes, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852161)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: talking flirting double fault international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852179)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852163)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: marvelous rebellious stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852175)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Saffron hairraiser space

Positive they never feel this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852191)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

I do, but then I think of all the good things the CA government is doing with my tax money and then I'm reassured

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852202)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: Aggressive Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857101)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: bearded supple headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857116)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Saffron hairraiser space

As long as the tax money is going towards shelters and programs to assist immigrant sanctuary, they can raise them even more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852223)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:54 AM
Author: rough-skinned mind-boggling property therapy

Cr it should also go to manatory white privilege training for white people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892148)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

Of course they do, that's why anyone with any money tries to weasel out of them.

Remember when noted shitlib EPAH was on here asking about setting up residence in a different western state to avoid all the state income taxes? Even shitlibs don't wanna pay for the shit they're selling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852237)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

Very odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852244)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

I'm all for anyone paying as little in taxes as possible -- so in a vacuum I don't have a problem with him wanting to keep more of what he earned, but I have no respect for anyone who advocates for higher taxes and more programs but then tries to weasel out of those very taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852269)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

So basically you’re saying you don’t respect any libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852280)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

I mean I could in theory.

As an example, Jimmy Kimmel makes what, $10M per year?

If he came out and said "healthcare for kids is so important to me that I'm donating 90% of my salary to a vehicle that aims to provide universal insurance for kids who don't have it and I'm encouraging all of my Hollywood friends to do the same", I'd at least have some respect for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852302)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: startling theatre

or, alternatively, someone like zuckerberg could give more than all hollywood actors combined and it wouldn't dent his net worth. instead he spends $ setting up coding bootcamps in Africa so that GC can eventually outsource jobs there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852342)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:32 AM
Author: Shaky partner

anti-semite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857105)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: startling theatre

tbf, that was just so he could brag about his income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852306)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

Only tolerate it because of how much household income we can pull in. As soon as we decide to slow down / become more “work optional” I want to GTFO because of taxes and libs.

The really bad ones:

- Cap gains taxed as ordinary income

- Sales tax

- Property tax (rate isnt bad, but property values are so high)

- Car purchases, you pay tax on the sale amount, not difference (new car - old car value). Psycologically, it gets me to keep a car 1-2yrs longer than I would elsewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852259)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

No issue with the state income tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852268)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

Not thrilled with it, but I could accept it if I wasn’t fleeced with all the other taxes. I’m fine paying extra to preserve some of the great things that exist here. However, I’m not fine paying for financial mismanagement, illegals, rigged state employee pension funds, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852283)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: startling theatre

protip: you just listed the "great things that exist here"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852319)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852431)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Dark Turdskin

What great things exist in CA that don't exist elsewhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852522)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

Syringes in San Fran

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852535)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: turquoise dashing spot

Access to varied nature is pretty big. In norcal you're within hours of a lot of bucket-list-type places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852548)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

Gets old after a bit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852580)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: Dark Turdskin

LOL i think you've used this "bucket-list" type places thing before

If something is on my bucket list, WGAF about getting on a plane to see it? It's 6 hours from NYC versus 3 in traffic from SF.

And whose bucket list has Heavenly or Kirkwood on it? Are you talking about Yosemite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852714)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: turquoise dashing spot

Bro, it's way more than Yosemite. And that flight from NYC lands at SFO and then you have the same traffic issues as had you started here.

Yosemite

Sequoia / Kings Canyon

Lake Tahoe (whether skiing or the lake/area itself)

Redwoods

Big Sur

Monterey / Carmel / Pebble Beach

Napa & Sonoma

Mendocino

SF itself

Central Coast - SLO, Paso, Hearst Castle, etc.

Santa Cruz

Lost Coast if you're not fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852782)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

Great things do do once or twice, but not worth having to be raped in taxes for these

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852808)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

All this. I'm a 15 minute drive down 92 to the beach whenever I want to go. Shit like that is nice to have and I'm ok with paying a certain level of tax to ensure it's cared for and remains accessible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853084)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Dark Turdskin

You mean going to half moon bay? Isn't it cold as fuck and only really worth it if you are a pro level surfer going to mavericks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853241)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: turquoise dashing spot

Probably HMB and the other beaches along the coast south from there. The water is cold but the weather is often nice enough to chill on the beach with kids and have a bbq. It's 45-60 mins away for me so longer than ideal. They're typically not that busy (except for holiday weekends) since they're a bit of a haul from SF and most of SV.

Santa Cruz is also 45-60 mins away and awesome, especially with kids. Boardwalk / amusement park, beach, and beach town. It's a world away. The only drag can be the traffic on the way back, but at most it adds 30 mins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853322)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

It's not a tropical beach, but it's completely acceptable to take kids down to for tide pools + setting up your beach 1/2 tent and chilling out for the day under.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853339)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: vermilion razzle resort

That last one is $cam & fraud.

I've held on to cars longer just to avoid the tax as well. I wonder how many transactions don't occur due to this BS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852348)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

Precisely - for someone who likes cars, if I didn't have to pay the ~10% tax on the full sale price, I'd probably flip my cars every 36 months or so. When I lived in other states, I could either:

a.) sell my car private party and if I bought a new (dealer or private) car w/in a certain time period credit that against the purchase price.

b.) bring the buyer of my car to the dealer, and do an "in and out" where I technically trade in the car, get the credit, then they sell it to the buyer at our agreed upon price.

It's not even about whether I can afford the extra tax CA applies, it's just mentally it pisses me off and thus I'm keeping cars 48-60 months now. I'm sure it hurts dealership sales volumes, and at minimum encourages people to buy private party because the seller can give you paperwork that says you paid a lot less than you really did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853015)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853208)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

The government at all levels constantly is trying to take money from you. In my neighborhood (planned development), the city instituted a "property transfer fee" on home sales. There is an ongoing lawsuit on this issue. It is just insane that people tolerate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852516)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: wonderful circlehead

>Cap gains taxed as ordinary income

This is good though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35856846)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: rough-skinned mind-boggling property therapy

(No coiner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892196)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: well-lubricated national quadroon

It's all I've ever known.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852357)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852398)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

All the time. I just moved here in the last year from Austin and think of moving back every day. It is just an enormous rip off. I want to move to a state with no state income tax sometime in the next year or two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852481)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: Excitant church hunting ground

Whch state ideally?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852510)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

Ideally I would be living in Jackson Hole. Realistically probably Nashville - that is what my wife wants. She is also open to Austin or Tampa. I would move to the DFW area, but that is a tougher sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852551)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: histrionic translucent brunch sweet tailpipe

Thoughts on Houston? More jobs there than ATX

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852743)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

Weather is a nightmare, it is overrun with minorities, and it is a sprawling, ugly city. Wouldn't be my first choice in Texas, although I would consider living in the Woodlands area there or somewhere in the Inner Loop area if I was single.

You are right - there are way more professional (non tech) jobs there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852827)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 2:07 AM
Author: adventurous gas station

you also chose to live in one of the worst parts of CA against everyone's advice you dumb shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857180)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Dark Turdskin

I grew up in a really high tax east coast area, so it doesn't seem shocking to me, but I can't imagine how someone from Texas could deal with moving to CA or NYC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852547)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

I feel like I am being raped on a daily basis and practically everyone I meet tells me they wish they could move to Texas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852564)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap

Then move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852619)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

I intend to. The only reason we moved here is because of my wife's job (which she already quit).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852637)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: ungodly corner nibblets

How about not being surrounded by redneck proles

Having more food options than burgers and Mexican

No humidity



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852668)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

Austin, Dallas, and Houston have tons of great food besides burgers and Tex Mex. A typical UMC is not surrounded by rednecks either.

The weather does blow though. California couldn't get away with its tax system if the weather wasn't so damn nice here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852697)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Dark Turdskin

LOL brother plenty of illegals in socal and bay area. Not sure this is the distinction I'd try to draw with Texas.

Austin and Dallas aren't humid.

Food options outside of wine country is no better than TX IMO. It's certainly not on NYC level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852748)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

Austin is humid as fuck - I used to live there. But CR for the rest.

Austin has great food and Houston is one of the best food cities in the country.

https://www.gq.com/story/david-chang-houston-food-city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852801)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: poppy glittery giraffe police squad

what makes me MAF isn't the high taxes. I could pay Swedish-style taxes if I got Swedish-style services. what makes me MAF is that we pay Sweden taxes and get Burundi-level services.

we have trash, underfunded public schools. cops can't do shit to keep streets clean. terrible roads. just libs need to be gassed for this crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852672)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Titillating locus personal credit line

I would still be MAF, but that adds to my annoyance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852707)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: walnut alcoholic whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852715)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: multi-colored rehab

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853312)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Overrated idiotic messiness menage

The state taxes dont make me as mad as prop 13 and prop 55 which extended a so-called temporary hike of 1% tax hike through basically forever and was sold as keeping the status quo. This state wouldn’t be perpetually underfunded and constantly looking to the rich to make up the money that should be coming from property taxes but isn’t due to prop 13.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852953)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

prop 13 is a great example of how careful you need to be when giving some group a gov't benefit.

it would seem to be nearly impossible to reverse that at this point without forcing millions of people out of their homes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853013)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Overrated idiotic messiness menage

Prop 13 applies to commercial properties as well and indeed commercial properties reap most of the tax savings. You can reform that part of prop 13 without forcing old people out of their homes. It is insane how they haven’t gotten rid of that loophole and won’t touch it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853049)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

I can't opine as to what that would do to the real estate market there.

Are most commercial tenants party to triple-net leases where they pay the pro rata share of the RE taxes? that may effect a lot of small business owners.

Again, not saying it shouldn't be done, just that it becomes hard to unwind this benefit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853165)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: dun cheese-eating organic girlfriend immigrant

CR. howard jarvis was a fraudlies peddler who hoodwinked stupid people into thinking they were doing something good for seniors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853272)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: crusty zippy yarmulke

Prop 13 is pretty terrible in the sense that it doesn't just cover your primary residence. It essentially encourages buy / hold+rent, which is what we've done. Why? Because our property tax expense is locked roughly at the original purchase price, which is a fraction of the current market value. As a result, we get rents that are roughly in-line with the current market value; so there is kind of a natural tax advantaged spread that happens over time as the property value increases.

Now, CA can go fuck themselves if they uncap Prop 13 on primary residences and don't reduce the income tax rate. People will mass exodus out of here if that happens and employers will hie to furthest low tax state rather than meet new salary demands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853164)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853221)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Overrated idiotic messiness menage

I’m fine with getting rid of prop 13 for primary residences even. Real estate values are super high due to lack of supply and I want property values to come down. you’re paying 3-4% on a much lower market value that’s reassessed annually so it’s not that bad.

The main problem is making sure the revenue actually is used to fund schools and local parks and whatever rather than being used to fund pensions and a stupid high speed train to nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853234)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:39 AM
Author: Shaky partner

nah. employers will stay put. you cannot replicate SV anywhere else. the olds will have to leave which they should. fuck em.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857118)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: Galvanic Mewling Home Clown

prop 13 and prop 58 (which is what i assume you meant) is complete bullshit that fucks up the entire state budget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892131)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Galvanic Mewling Home Clown

also that it applies to commercial properties is ridiculous. at least it's capped at $1M (of assessed value though, lol).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892189)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Abusive dilemma doctorate

Lol @ calicucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852991)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Appetizing Geriatric Range

Out of 100 illegals in California, how many pay for their healthcare?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853028)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 3:29 AM
Author: mischievous set wagecucks

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857267)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: histrionic translucent brunch sweet tailpipe

0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35894764)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: deranged pea-brained nursing home

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853057)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant sooty lay prole

I love looking at my tax return, then walking a few blocks, looking outside, and viewing hordes of homeless in what would otherwise be a nice public place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853248)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap

You live in Santa Ana, Anaheim, Los Angeles?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853291)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Exhilarant sooty lay prole

Santa Monica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35855646)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: carnelian water buffalo ticket booth

Now imagine how you will feel when you sign your big contract in free agency!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853295)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853661)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:22 AM
Author: arousing disrespectful stage legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857078)



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Date: April 16th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: multi-colored rehab

The tax rate would be fine if they used it on environmental stuff (rather than global warming mumbo jumbo) and on massive police forces to kick the bums and the other criminals out. (Rather than da skoolz)

Also not taxing capital gains at ordinary rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853430)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap

Lolwut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35858607)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35856737)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: Galvanic Mewling Home Clown

tbf, in SoCal, the beach is 20-30 minutes away and the weather is basically perfect year-round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892143)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Disgusting goal in life jap

So its worth it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35894714)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: hot gay wizard

It definitely sucks. However, any time I travel domestically I realize how shitty the rest of the country is by comparison and then it makes sense. There are only a couple of places that rival it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895004)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Abusive dilemma doctorate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895011)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: hot gay wizard

Tbf I live in a nice area in so cal without homeless people. I could see how others would have a different experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895023)