Rundown on the lawman8 vs BLP showdown?
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Date: April 20th, 2018 8:27 AM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
BLP completely shitmodded a thread that contained no outable information solely because he was gaped and embarrassed inside the thread. Basically, he was having a hysterical temper tantrum, tried to defend it, but slowly, his reasons behind his tantrum started getting stripped away.
After his last reason was stripped, rather than admit he was foolish to engage in his temper tantrum, he shitmodded the thread and deleted it from the garbage board so that no one could see.
After getting called out for being a shitmod by EVERYONE present in that thread (we all saw what BLP did), BLP lied about his actions, claiming he shitmodded to protect Benzo. Here is Benzo's reaction to BLP's "protection":
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954439&mc=11&forum_id=2
Oh, and prior to the shitmodding, as BLP was getting gaped, TSINAH asked BLP if he was going to shitmod the thread, because BLP has apparently shitmodded threads in the past that started going against him. Like clockwork, within 20 seconds, BLP did just that. These two threads are contemporaneous records of BLP's shitmodding:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954441&mc=27&forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954438&mc=48&forum_id=2
The facts that:
1. BLP shitmodded a thread solely because he was gaped and embarrassed inside it (again, no one who was there agrees with BLP that the thread violated the One Rule; this is a self-serving fig leaf that BLP has offered in his defense);
2. BLP apparently is so bad that his shitmodding was able to be accurately predicted by TSINAH; and
3. BLP continues to lie about his actions.
All demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that BLP is temperamentally unfit to be a mod.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35880346) |
Date: April 20th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: House-broken indian lodge
Has BLP reinstated the threads in question so that XO can collectively determine whether their deletion was warranted pursuant to the ONE RULE and, secondarily, whether he was in fact gaped?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35883681)
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Date: April 20th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: low-t appetizing nowag
blp says he deleted a thread by accident. said the "hide" button is right next to the "reply" button if you're a mod. i wouldn't know.
it's funny because lawman8 bears a grudge against blp for defending short quotemo w/r/t the secret slack.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35883720) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:13 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Incorrect. You are referring to his later deletion of a poast (not threads) where somebody else called him obese and BLP deleted it. He claimed that was an accident, which quite frankly is plausible.
It is easy to accidentally delete poasts (which you can then restore) but impossible for threads since rach added a pop up that you have to verify before a thread can be deleted.
That’s not the subject of this shitstorm. He is being skewered for abuse of mod powers for shitmodding an entire thread because he was getting embarrassed. Further, he didn’t just delete the thread (virtually impossible to do by accident), he went onto the garbage board and deleted the thread there too, to cover up the evidence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35883867) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:30 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Thank you. I think that if Rach restores the thread, all objective people on XO will agree that the thread did not violate Rule 1, and certainly did not deserved to be nuked from the garbage bort.
The fig leaf that BLP is holding onto is that TSINAH asked Benzo if he cried when “Officer G” arrested him (that was the thread name). It was explained to BLP in the thread that you cannot do a search for “officer G” and find out somebody’s identity. Moreover, TSINAH linked to a thread where Benzo poasted about the arrest in question.
You tell me if you think “officer G” warrants a total nuking of the thread, particularly as BLP began to look dumber and dumber inside.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35883999) |
Date: April 20th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
UPDATE: As it turns out, I still had the thread open in a phone window before it was deleted. I can take screenshots and paste here.
XO can be the collective judge if BLP has abused his mod power or not. Did the thread violate the ONE RULE? Or, did BLP delete it because he started looking like a fool??
Want me to go through the screenshotting and uploading process?
EDIT: Ok, the link is ready. Please note that this is only 80% of the thread. It continued on with one or two more BLP exchanges with TSINAH. It got worse and that is not reflected.
But the catalyst was TSINAH saying now that you�ve been gaped, I bet you�re gong to shitmod this entire thread. BLP then proceeded to do just that, which pissed us all off. These poasts are missing and if I refresh, the whole page will be gone.
XO, what�s the verdict??
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35884098) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:45 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
This isn’t “my crusade.” My following here tries to frame it that way. If you were on the bort when this all happened last night, there were many threads created about this. Here’s a sampling of the people who agreed with me, because many in the linked thread were very pissed off by BLP’s shitmodding and subsequent lying about it:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954446&mc=17&forum_id=2
With that said, I admit that I wouldn’t have been so vocal on this issue had BLP not had a meltdown about the exposure of the secret slack. That doesn’t make a single word I said untrue. I don’t think a mod who shitmods, and in fact does it often enough that it can be predicted, should be a mod.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35884508) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Ask anyone who was here at that time. Public opinion was unanimously against BLP’s shitmodding. Literally no one besides himself supported him.
But, in addition to the shitmodding, what really set people off was BLP’s lies about what happened (he thought since he had destroyed the evidence no one could prove what he did). Here’s a representative example:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954467&mc=56&forum_id=2#35879479
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35884862) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:38 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Go to the thread I just linked. BLP admits he’s made similar shitmods in the past, and expresses absolutely no remorse for his decision to permanently delete the thread because he got embarrassed. He says he’d delete a thread like that again, when you know perfectly well that “officer G” isn’t remotely outable information of any sort.
How can you support a mod who admits making similar abuses in the past (you agree this was an abuse), and vows to do so again in the future?
There’s only ONE RULE here, and BLP has demonstrated he doesn’t appreciate what it means.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35884969) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 8:01 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
I think you are being far too charitable.
BLP characterizes the nuked thread as containing “outable info.” In fact, the objective truth is that it contains no such thing.
This isn’t open to interpretation and is black and white. One quite simply cannot discover someone’s identity with “officer g.”
Therefore, BLP has demonstrated he has no understanding of what the ONE RULE actually is.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35885083) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
It really isn’t. The ONE RULE is clear, and should NOT be afforded the very broad interpretation you wish to apply.
Also, in a tremendous irony, BLP’s actions that demonstrated he’s unfit to be a mod may have made Benzo’s IRL immeasurably worse, if this is to be believed:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954559&mc=37&forum_id=2#35885283
BLP’s cowardly conduct directly sparked the massive brouhaha last night that led to this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35885636) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 11:05 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
I saw your original poast before you edited. TSINAH had made a blank poast, and you responded with a ?
Very shortly after, you changed it to some OH SHIT! type of poast, implying TSINAH told you his plans and then blanked it. Your reaction was trolling others into thinking he mentioned some dastardly plan, and I approved. It was clever.
That is not in any sense any kind of judgment as to the merits of how “real” this whole thing is. I think that TSINAH is being dead serious, and this is all real.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886152) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 11:09 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
You are incorrect on both counts. We don’t have two rules, despite your bullshit attempts to create one.
Regarding your second incorrect charge, I’ve fully admitted that I’ve only been so vocal about this because I don’t like BLP. That does not warrant the false inference you seek; that he’s innocent under your tortured logic.
Think of me as an opportunist. I wait for the right opportunity, when I’m 100% right, and then pounce. And I don’t pounce on those I like. Here, BLP is objectively a shitmod who doesn’t understand the ONE RULE that we have (not your fake two rules). He should not be a mod. If I liked him, I’d merely remain silent. He still wouldn’t deserve to be a mod, but I’d leave that cause for others to argue.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886172) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 11:39 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Now now, I thought you were intellectually honest? Who said anything about future spam? I was referring to ITT and last night. Of course I’ll be referring to BLP’s unfitness to be a mod, in the future, st opportune moments, but I wouldn’t spam.
I conclusively rebutted the various fallacious arguments and tortured logic you’ve presented here - including your unilateral attempt to manufacture a second bort rule out of wholecloth - and this is how you respond? Putting words in my mouth and a snide dismissal?
Surely you can do better than that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886347) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 11:50 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Yes except in very, very extreme cases. For proof, see the massive amounts of Arkan spam we had for weeks, along with stupidass schticks like plopp plop.
I understand your point though. You are trying to claim that there are unwritten rules, and your attempt to manufacture the fake second rule is one such example.
But that’s contrary to both the way things work here (Rach makes the rules) along with the spirit of the bort (moderation is almost always discouraged). The fake second rule you’d propose (but pretend is already in place) would impermissibly broaden the scope of the ONE RULE and sanction way too much shitmodding.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886385) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 12:16 AM Author: low-t appetizing nowag
my position is closest to the one here
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35885189
i did say i don't think blp should have deleted that thread. i didn't say "he never should have completely nuked that thread." i wouldn't have deleted it if i were a mod. but that isn't to say i don't think a decent argument can be made for modding it. it's a judgment call with what i see as valid competing arguments.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886479) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 12:20 AM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Do you understand the difference between deleting a thread and completely nuking it?
When you delete a thread, it goes onto the garbage board, where others can see it, but can't poast. Although I don't think that thread deserved to be deleted at all, I wouldn't be making such a fuss if that's all that happened.
BLP went one step further, and deleted the thread from the garbage board. Rach tells you this is something you are basically never supposed to do. BLP only did it to cover up the evidence of him getting embarrassed in that thread.
There is absolutely no excuse for it. And while I completely disagree with your assessment that it's a judgment call to begin with, even if it was, that is only in the context as to whether the thread should have been deleted, as opposed to completely nuked.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35886503) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 10:02 PM Author: startling dilemma dingle berry
Please see here where BLP admits to doing it in the past, expresses no remorse for nuking the thread I poasted, and basically says he’d do it again:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954467&mc=56&forum_id=2#35879479
And I agree a complete evidential record would be better.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3954585&forum_id=2#35885781) |
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