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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
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Poppy Ticket Booth
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
Aphrodisiac Lilac Really Tough Guy Ceo
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Dark insecure hall
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Charismatic grizzly state black woman
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Red violent stage generalized bond
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
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Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
adventurous azn casino
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
floppy plum quadroon
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Provocative Walnut National
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
Tripping Black Masturbator Sex Offender
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
Swashbuckling mint volcanic crater
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
naked lodge immigrant
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Razzmatazz filthy depressive
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Deep roommate faggot firefighter
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
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Odious Mewling Voyeur University
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
Chartreuse love of her life
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Beady-eyed Library Crotch
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
Provocative Walnut National
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
diverse jew resort
  04/23/18
cr
exhilarant friendly grandma fat ankles
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
Chartreuse love of her life
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Big flushed therapy
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
180 corner
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
Vibrant shimmering base
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
supple fluffy elastic band
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
hyperactive half-breed
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Poppy Ticket Booth



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Lilac Really Tough Guy Ceo

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Dark insecure hall



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Charismatic grizzly state black woman

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Red violent stage generalized bond

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: adventurous azn casino

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: floppy plum quadroon

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Provocative Walnut National

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Tripping Black Masturbator Sex Offender

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Swashbuckling mint volcanic crater

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: naked lodge immigrant

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Razzmatazz filthy depressive

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Deep roommate faggot firefighter

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Deep roommate faggot firefighter

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: Odious Mewling Voyeur University



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: Chartreuse love of her life

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Library Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898662)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Provocative Walnut National

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: diverse jew resort

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: exhilarant friendly grandma fat ankles

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Chartreuse love of her life

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Big flushed therapy

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: 180 corner

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Vibrant shimmering base

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: supple fluffy elastic band

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: hyperactive half-breed

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)