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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
gold useless brakes doctorate
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gold useless brakes doctorate
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gaped chocolate theater
  04/22/18
depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
anal charismatic pit
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Dull Lascivious Digit Ratio Hunting Ground
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
gold useless brakes doctorate
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
peach kink-friendly candlestick maker
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
gold useless brakes doctorate
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Diverse violent stain
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
gold useless brakes doctorate
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gold useless brakes doctorate
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
dashing native queen of the night
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
cracking umber point dysfunction
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
carnelian vibrant location factory reset button
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
Glittery step-uncle's house
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
curious hot philosopher-king foreskin
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
french cumskin dog poop
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
gold useless brakes doctorate
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Ebony chad
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
Ebony chad
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Ungodly magenta incel
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
soul-stirring magical rigpig
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razzle-dazzle area reading party
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
carnelian vibrant location factory reset button
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
rose parlor toaster
  04/23/18
cr
Bonkers ocher chapel jew
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
soul-stirring magical rigpig
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Out-of-control mediation idea he suggested
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
Flatulent scourge upon the earth gas station
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
Excitant Indirect Expression
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
Domesticated shrine
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: gaped chocolate theater



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: anal charismatic pit

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Dull Lascivious Digit Ratio Hunting Ground



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: peach kink-friendly candlestick maker

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Diverse violent stain

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: dashing native queen of the night

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: cracking umber point dysfunction

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: carnelian vibrant location factory reset button

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Glittery step-uncle's house

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: curious hot philosopher-king foreskin

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: french cumskin dog poop

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: gold useless brakes doctorate

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Ebony chad

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Ebony chad

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: Ungodly magenta incel



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: soul-stirring magical rigpig

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle area reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898662)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: carnelian vibrant location factory reset button

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: rose parlor toaster

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Bonkers ocher chapel jew

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring magical rigpig

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Out-of-control mediation idea he suggested

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Flatulent scourge upon the earth gas station

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Excitant Indirect Expression

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Domesticated shrine

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Harsh crotch hospital

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)