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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Sickened nighttime party of the first part
  04/22/18
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cyan bearded jewess
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
Orange Flatulent Church Sex Offender
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Godawful Lay Regret
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Sickened nighttime party of the first part
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Translucent dragon headpube
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Sickened nighttime party of the first part
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Salmon Lodge
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Sickened nighttime party of the first part
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Sickened nighttime party of the first part
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
bespoke really tough guy
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
Coral spectacular space indirect expression
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
yapping institution
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
beady-eyed buck-toothed jew
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
drab university codepig
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Cream Seedy Pervert Address
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Sickened nighttime party of the first part
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
jet dead location
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
jet dead location
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insane fragrant state son of senegal
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
laughsome orchestra pit
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Bearded internal respiration
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my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
yapping institution
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
hyperactive charismatic trailer park
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cr
Hairraiser fortuitous meteor dilemma
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
laughsome orchestra pit
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
narrow-minded sexy hall
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
cracking windowlicker doctorate
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
comical glassy roast beef
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
fuchsia concupiscible church building
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: cyan bearded jewess



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Orange Flatulent Church Sex Offender

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Godawful Lay Regret



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Translucent dragon headpube

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Salmon Lodge

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: bespoke really tough guy

no idea but FUCK KIKES

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Coral spectacular space indirect expression

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: yapping institution

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed buck-toothed jew

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: drab university codepig

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Cream Seedy Pervert Address

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Sickened nighttime party of the first part

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: jet dead location

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: jet dead location

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: insane fragrant state son of senegal



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: laughsome orchestra pit

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Bearded internal respiration



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: yapping institution

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: hyperactive charismatic trailer park

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Hairraiser fortuitous meteor dilemma

cr

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: laughsome orchestra pit

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: narrow-minded sexy hall

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: cracking windowlicker doctorate

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: comical glassy roast beef

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: fuchsia concupiscible church building

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: passionate famous landscape painting locale

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)