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Its true, Mexico sends its poorest to USA, but...

They ADD value. And that is all that matters. Indians wo...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
no you fucking don't and you have to go back
grizzly zippy wrinkle
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Trip Wine Parlour Ratface
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titillating space international law enforcement agency
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cyan house
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saffron volcanic crater
  04/23/18
Aren't you Mexican too? Go back to Mexico.
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
pepito is a gay Irishmen thug.
titillating space international law enforcement agency
  04/23/18
He sounds like white trash to me. Ship him back to the slums...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
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saffron volcanic crater
  04/23/18
Why would you care about this great nation if you're being s...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
Because Jews are a pest everywhere and anywhere. If Jews con...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
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Low-t poppy whorehouse
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curious filthy property mediation
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Chartreuse depressive
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frum fishy stage faggotry
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Racy Insane Corner Gaming Laptop
  04/23/18
This is true but you also have to go back
Thriller henna hissy fit
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Twinkling bat shit crazy police squad indian lodge
  04/23/18
Let's say you add value of +50, but an equal number of Mexic...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
Many Mexicans add value. TCTP does not.
grizzly zippy wrinkle
  04/23/18
California and Texas are the MOST desirable states in Americ...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
Who moves to Texas?
mauve queen of the night sandwich
  04/23/18
Californians
grizzly zippy wrinkle
  04/23/18
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Trip Wine Parlour Ratface
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cyan house
  04/23/18
Texas is1800000
cyan house
  04/23/18
Texas is boring as fuck. I went to Dallas once, flying from ...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
Smells like duck sauce
cyan house
  04/23/18
(Texan faggot trolling for his suburban shithole)
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
“Seeing all the lights and awesome shit in the city” You ...
cyan house
  04/23/18
Lights and activity beats a dark, ghost town, rat-face. I we...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
I can’t speak for Dallas, but go to Austin or Houston. And l...
cyan house
  04/23/18
Cr
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
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Racy Insane Corner Gaming Laptop
  04/23/18
In a related story, I went to Nashville for work once and sa...
arousing walnut church
  04/23/18
Better to nuke DC
cyan house
  04/23/18
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Balding famous landscape painting messiness
  04/23/18
JFC dude, did you realize you just completely ignored my arg...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
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talented hilarious area
  04/23/18
who cares whether you add value? The elites want you here, a...
glittery trump supporter regret
  04/23/18
Lmao
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
I don't think we have too many doctors.
Motley people who are hurt office
  04/23/18
We have too many doctors who are foreigners. I hate it. We n...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
That's because homegrown doctors (like whokebe) are not acce...
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
Correct. What we need are more med schools and residency pro...
cyan house
  04/23/18
You mean with lower admissions requirements?
Exciting meetinghouse
  04/23/18
Well that would be the result of opening new programs. More ...
cyan house
  04/23/18
Cr
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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Yes. We don’t need 130 IQ people to tell us we have a cold
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cyan house
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khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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If Mexicans were worth a damn, Mexico wouldn't be such a shi...
Pontificating bateful mad-dog skullcap friendly grandma
  04/23/18
Mexicans say it’s white peoples fault their country is a hel...
cyan house
  04/23/18
It is actually thw lebanese and the jews fault. Mostly the l...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
I believe you
cyan house
  04/23/18
Ty
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
Explain. Only ~400k Lebanese descent in Mexico out of a popu...
Rebellious home nibblets
  04/23/18
Jews in america make up 5 million (out of a total population...
khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
  04/23/18
They are free to keep us out too.
frum fishy stage faggotry
  04/23/18
If Mexicans were worth a damn, Mexico wouldn't be such a shi...
Pontificating bateful mad-dog skullcap friendly grandma
  04/23/18
If Mexicans were worth a damn, they would be kept in their o...
Exciting meetinghouse
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khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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This thread is why TedCruz is one of the greatest and smarte...
Low-t poppy whorehouse
  04/23/18
Mexican immigrants help make American cities great again by ...
Olive razzle-dazzle hall
  04/23/18
A Harvard PhD student wrote his disseratation demosntrating ...
Cowardly boiling water nursing home
  04/23/18
40% of US born Hispanics marry Anglos so by the 3rd generati...
Olive razzle-dazzle hall
  04/23/18
seems that would drag anglo iq down
Cowardly boiling water nursing home
  04/23/18
That’s fine. We can just bring in high IQ Asians. Don’t even...
Balding famous landscape painting messiness
  04/23/18
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khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo
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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

They ADD value. And that is all that matters.

Indians working in H1b tech jobs add value? Nope.

Middle Easterners who work as doctors, dentists add value? Not really. Native Born Americans make better doctors.

Chinese all cash buyers add value? Well, only to the pockets of a few real estate agents.

You see, folks, we Mexicans dont have the education that the above groups have. But we add value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898026)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: grizzly zippy wrinkle

no you fucking don't and you have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898032)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Trip Wine Parlour Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898089)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:21 AM
Author: iridescent vigorous public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898478)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: titillating space international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901366)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: cyan house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901368)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: saffron volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901372)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

Aren't you Mexican too? Go back to Mexico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901382)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: titillating space international law enforcement agency

pepito is a gay Irishmen thug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901390)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

He sounds like white trash to me. Ship him back to the slums in Ireland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901395)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: saffron volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902448)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

Why would you care about this great nation if you're being shipped back to your white trash origins? You won't see this country again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903724)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Because Jews are a pest everywhere and anywhere. If Jews control America, they control the world. Thats why. And we dont want the world to be controlled by these parasitic kikes! Thats why we are fighting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35904528)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Low-t poppy whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901376)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: curious filthy property mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901435)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: Chartreuse depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901471)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: frum fishy stage faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902413)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Racy Insane Corner Gaming Laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903563)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: Thriller henna hissy fit

This is true but you also have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903759)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Twinkling bat shit crazy police squad indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35904267)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

Let's say you add value of +50, but an equal number of Mexicans come as gang members and drug dealers, netting a -50. The "value" you're talking about just went down to zero and you're a pest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898037)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: grizzly zippy wrinkle

Many Mexicans add value. TCTP does not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898043)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

California and Texas are the MOST desirable states in America. There is no denying this. It is fact.

If we Mexicans were pests like you say, then why does everyone want to move to California and Texas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898045)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: mauve queen of the night sandwich

Who moves to Texas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898056)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: grizzly zippy wrinkle

Californians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898063)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Trip Wine Parlour Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898091)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: cyan house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901369)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: cyan house

Texas is1800000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901371)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

Texas is boring as fuck. I went to Dallas once, flying from NYC. I felt like going from a lively, bright town to a ghost town. I remember seeing miles and miles of empty, dark land. Coming back to NYC was awesome, seeing all the lights and awesome shit in the city. I'd never live in a suburban shithole like Dallas or any other part of Texas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901446)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: cyan house

Smells like duck sauce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901469)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

(Texan faggot trolling for his suburban shithole)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901482)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: cyan house

“Seeing all the lights and awesome shit in the city”

You sound like some 5’6 bowlcut gook no offense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901492)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

Lights and activity beats a dark, ghost town, rat-face. I went there on a holiday, not even the Starbucks in downtown Dallas was open, LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901509)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: cyan house

I can’t speak for Dallas, but go to Austin or Houston. And lol at thinking a "rat face" would ever be trolling for Texas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901519)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902405)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Racy Insane Corner Gaming Laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903571)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: arousing walnut church

In a related story, I went to Nashville for work once and saw my hotel, the seller's headquarters and a B-steakhouse and attached bar. Had a so-so time during my ~28 hour stay. I vote we nuke the place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903523)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: cyan house

Better to nuke DC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903557)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Balding famous landscape painting messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903567)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:55 AM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

JFC dude, did you realize you just completely ignored my argument about the bad Mexicans I made? Then you made a new argument about people wanting to move to CA and TX, without even explaining how are Mexicans THE REASON those people want to move? LJL

State your IQ please and don't engage any further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898539)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: talented hilarious area

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898060)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: glittery trump supporter regret

who cares whether you add value? The elites want you here, and we the white working class do not...it's a struggle between us and them...and you are just in the middle...you gonna get squashed...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898077)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:36 AM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898329)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: Motley people who are hurt office

I don't think we have too many doctors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898138)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:55 AM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

We have too many doctors who are foreigners. I hate it. We need more homegrown american MDs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35898611)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

That's because homegrown doctors (like whokebe) are not accepted into American med schools. So they need to travel to countries like Australia or the Caribbean and get their degrees there, sometimes staying there for life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901350)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: cyan house

Correct. What we need are more med schools and residency programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901386)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

You mean with lower admissions requirements?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901404)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: cyan house

Well that would be the result of opening new programs. More spots + same demand makes admissions (particularly at new schools) less competitive. No reason we should take some Bangladeshi “doc” over a smart American with a 30 MCAT or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901423)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903040)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Crystalline bearded laser beams

Yes. We don’t need 130 IQ people to tell us we have a cold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901434)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: cyan house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901440)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35904530)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35899661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Pontificating bateful mad-dog skullcap friendly grandma

If Mexicans were worth a damn, Mexico wouldn't be such a shithole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901415)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: cyan house

Mexicans say it’s white peoples fault their country is a hellhole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901429)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

It is actually thw lebanese and the jews fault. Mostly the lebanese.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902401)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: cyan house

I believe you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902404)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902409)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Rebellious home nibblets

Explain. Only ~400k Lebanese descent in Mexico out of a population of 130mm, and only have been in the country for ~130 years. Seems like a pretty fragile country to begin with if it can be taken over so easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903264)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Jews in america make up 5 million (out of a total population of 326 million)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903541)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: frum fishy stage faggotry

They are free to keep us out too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902421)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Pontificating bateful mad-dog skullcap friendly grandma

If Mexicans were worth a damn, Mexico wouldn't be such a shithole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901416)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: Exciting meetinghouse

If Mexicans were worth a damn, they would be kept in their own country for labor. Instead, they're stolen by American employers who pay them 2-3x what they earn in Mexico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35901490)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35902396)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903207)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Low-t poppy whorehouse

This thread is why TedCruz is one of the greatest and smartest poasters in XO history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903404)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Olive razzle-dazzle hall

Mexican immigrants help make American cities great again by softening up the bad neighborhoods for gentrification.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903574)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Cowardly boiling water nursing home

A Harvard PhD student wrote his disseratation demosntrating that the immigrants we are getting from mexico are low IQ, and have low IQ kids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Richwine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903575)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Olive razzle-dazzle hall

40% of US born Hispanics marry Anglos so by the 3rd generation the IQ issue starts to fade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903590)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Cowardly boiling water nursing home

seems that would drag anglo iq down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956988&forum_id=2#35903680)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Balding famous landscape painting messiness

That’s fine. We can just bring in high IQ Asians. Don’t even need whites anymore really

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: khaki beady-eyed dingle berry ceo

Titcr

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