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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
odious church
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
odious church
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
odious church
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge
  04/23/18
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Appetizing milk
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge

colloquialism*

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: odious church

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: odious church

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: odious church

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: khaki concupiscible deer antler indian lodge

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Appetizing milk



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