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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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Green Electric Lettuce School
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
Green Electric Lettuce School
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
frisky casino
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
Green Electric Lettuce School
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
frisky casino
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
Green Electric Lettuce School
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
frisky casino
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
Green Electric Lettuce School
  04/23/18
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umber insanely creepy rigor base
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Green Electric Lettuce School



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Green Electric Lettuce School

colloquialism*

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: frisky casino

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Green Electric Lettuce School

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: frisky casino

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Green Electric Lettuce School

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: frisky casino

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: Green Electric Lettuce School

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: umber insanely creepy rigor base



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