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Which famous musician's legacy was helped most by an early death?

Intuitively I feel like Cobain is the right answer here, but...
dun bearded orchestra pit
  04/23/18
Cobain for sure I don't know enough about Jim Morrison, b...
Obsidian point
  04/23/18
i think it's either Joplin or Morrison. both were already i...
spruce forum therapy
  04/23/18
Jim Croce is still alive as a guitar teacher in Fairborn, Oh...
Burgundy insecure community account
  04/23/18
Elvis
Titillating clown degenerate
  04/23/18
Jimi easily. Had he stayed alive, he would've gone the Mile...
Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs
  04/23/18
Hendrix is a possibility, but his play was so unique and sou...
dun bearded orchestra pit
  04/23/18
No way. It's not like Miles Davis's popular music is conside...
Cocky idiot hospital
  04/23/18
it's obscure to most non-musicians, particularly his albums ...
Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs
  04/23/18
I don't know about that.
Obsidian point
  04/23/18
not having a Jimi/Santana Grammys "mashup" in 2003...
spruce forum therapy
  04/23/18
like prince
fiercely-loyal private investor step-uncle's house
  04/23/18
hank williams has to be up there. he was popular during his...
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pearl soul-stirring idea he suggested
  04/23/18
Wrong. Johnny Cash wasn't pop-country and remained relevant...
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
lol, don't be silly. songs like "walk the line" a...
avocado legal warrant menage
  04/23/18
Johnny Cash's career was at a point of very high irrelevancy...
sticky talented mother gas station
  04/23/18
Joplin or cobain
overrated liquid oxygen field
  04/23/18
Cr
Spectacular tripping main people market
  04/23/18
how was joplin's career helped by her death? she sucked bef...
Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs
  04/23/18
lol no, she's idolized by ugly fat boomers who love ugly fat...
spruce forum therapy
  04/23/18
btw, the musicians i listed are just some suggestions. certa...
dun bearded orchestra pit
  04/23/18
I always forget buddy holly even existed
overrated liquid oxygen field
  04/23/18
the Big Bopper was supposed to be on that plane. You're prob...
aphrodisiac seedy sanctuary son of senegal
  04/23/18
holly was wildly-popular when he was alive and had a massive...
avocado legal warrant menage
  04/23/18
Buddy Holly was cr and on his way to being huge
dull brunch
  04/23/18
Buddy Holly is an interesting choice - he released a stunnin...
Stirring old irish cottage kitchen
  04/24/18
Morrison.
vermilion arousing space
  04/23/18
Joplin wouldn't be anywhere close to as famous if not for he...
Fragrant bbw meetinghouse
  04/23/18
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overrated liquid oxygen field
  04/23/18
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lavender office
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Sublime is another example of an early death drastically inc...
overrated liquid oxygen field
  04/23/18
that's probably true
dun bearded orchestra pit
  04/23/18
I heard an obscure sublime song last weekend that I had neve...
Obsidian point
  04/23/18
Sublime are HUGE among the appropriate age group.
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
Morrison. He was on his way to becoming a has-been fat boome...
sable startling french chef
  04/23/18
Jim Morrison, easily. He was already in a steep decline. ...
beady-eyed stage rigpig
  04/23/18
Buddy Holly had a lot of future potential. Richie Valens an...
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
janis joplin
curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building
  04/23/18
Sid Vicious, because he was a shitty "musician" an...
Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio
  04/23/18
I don't think he has a musical legacy though.
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
well, OP said "musician's legacy", not musical leg...
Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio
  04/23/18
this is pretty cr. look what became of johnny rotten post se...
curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building
  04/23/18
Actually Public Image Ltd was a great band who made some rea...
Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio
  04/23/18
Cr
sticky talented mother gas station
  04/23/18
Rotten had Public Image Ltd which was far superior to the Se...
aphrodisiac seedy sanctuary son of senegal
  04/23/18
Public Image Ltd is pretty cr, faggit.
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
listen guys i never heard this public image or whatever band...
curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building
  04/23/18
I'd say that he didn't have nearly as much fame with PiL as ...
sticky talented mother gas station
  04/23/18
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carmine histrionic stage
  04/24/18
Cobain easily, give nirvana two more albums and he's not the...
excitant federal den
  04/23/18
Cobain had future potential. He was actually talking about ...
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
...
Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio
  04/23/18
Sure, sure. It would have sucked
excitant federal den
  04/23/18
lol
curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building
  04/23/18
What about Bob Marley? He's revered as almost a religious, ...
Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio
  04/23/18
Naw. He died at 36 from natural causes. I think his popula...
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/23/18
speaking of him, that's kind of what happened to robert john...
avocado legal warrant menage
  04/23/18
Nah, reefer Bob was legit
brindle racy school cafeteria
  04/23/18
Scott Weiland
fiercely-loyal private investor step-uncle's house
  04/23/18
The Scott Weiland story is what would have happened to Kurt ...
sticky talented mother gas station
  04/23/18
cr. scott weiland would be held in far higher esteem had he...
spruce forum therapy
  04/24/18
The guy who sang la bamba
charismatic violet chapel round eye
  04/24/18
Richie Valens, already mentioned.
misanthropic floppy stag film karate
  04/24/18
Isaac Brock
carmine histrionic stage
  04/24/18
morrison is prolly most cr but Elliott Smith is pretty clos...
citrine demanding mad-dog skullcap ticket booth
  04/24/18
My moniker is partly an homage to E. Smith but I don't reall...
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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: dun bearded orchestra pit

Intuitively I feel like Cobain is the right answer here, but what about people like Buddy Holly, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Notorious B.I.G., etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902653)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Obsidian point

Cobain for sure

I don't know enough about Jim Morrison, but the Doors had like 9 studio albums plus multiple live albums. If he lived, he would just be another boomer musician who gets fat and dies at like 70

Notorious B.I.G. was helped, but if he were still alive I think he would still be somewhat relevant today, in the way that Jay Z and Snoop Dogg are today (not a ton of big hits anymore, but still around)

I don't know shit about Janis Joplin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902687)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: spruce forum therapy

i think it's either Joplin or Morrison. both were already in steady decline at time of death and got revived with publicity from death.

jim croce is probably another option. he was planning to quit music and become a screenwriter when his plane crashed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902699)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Burgundy insecure community account

Jim Croce is still alive as a guitar teacher in Fairborn, Ohio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902839)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Titillating clown degenerate

Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902706)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs

Jimi easily. Had he stayed alive, he would've gone the Miles free jazz route into obscurity rather than remain a perennial rock god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902720)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: dun bearded orchestra pit

Hendrix is a possibility, but his play was so unique and soulful that he would have continued to be revered as a guitar icon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902727)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Cocky idiot hospital

No way. It's not like Miles Davis's popular music is considered obscure now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902729)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs

it's obscure to most non-musicians, particularly his albums after bitches brew.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902749)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Obsidian point

I don't know about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902762)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: spruce forum therapy

not having a Jimi/Santana Grammys "mashup" in 2003 was probably the saving grace of our (((culture)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904974)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal private investor step-uncle's house

like prince

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905199)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: avocado legal warrant menage

hank williams has to be up there. he was popular during his lifetime, but his style of "country-western" was actually getting overtaken by pop country near the end of his run. his death turned him into a cultural icon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902737)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: pearl soul-stirring idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902760)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Wrong. Johnny Cash wasn't pop-country and remained relevant right up to his death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904977)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: avocado legal warrant menage

lol, don't be silly. songs like "walk the line" and "ring of fire" (his biggest early hits) were much more pop-country than anything hank williams did aside from maybe "hey good lookin'". HW was doing weird, jittery songs like "kaw-liga" or singing plaintively about how he wasn't going to make it out of the world alive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905020)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: sticky talented mother gas station

Johnny Cash's career was at a point of very high irrelevancy before he linked up with Rick Rubin to do the American albums

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905094)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: overrated liquid oxygen field

Joplin or cobain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902741)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Spectacular tripping main people market

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902747)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible hyperactive parlour hairy legs

how was joplin's career helped by her death? she sucked before she died and didn't really get any more popular or revered posthumously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902758)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: spruce forum therapy

lol no, she's idolized by ugly fat boomers who love ugly fat singers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904978)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: dun bearded orchestra pit

btw, the musicians i listed are just some suggestions. certainly not meant to be exhaustive.

Buddy Holly certainly gets a lot of cache from dying in that plane crash. who knows if he'd have ever made it really big

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902789)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: overrated liquid oxygen field

I always forget buddy holly even existed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902807)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: aphrodisiac seedy sanctuary son of senegal

the Big Bopper was supposed to be on that plane. You're probably thinking "who the fuck is the Big Bopper". Exactly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905021)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: avocado legal warrant menage

holly was wildly-popular when he was alive and had a massive #1 hit in 1957 with "That'll Be the Day." richie valens is probably a better example of someone who became a lot more popular as a result of that crash, and then again after that 80's biopic came out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905035)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: dull brunch

Buddy Holly was cr and on his way to being huge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905096)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:11 AM
Author: Stirring old irish cottage kitchen

Buddy Holly is an interesting choice - he released a stunning number of classic songs in an extraordinarily short period of time - like 18 months. There's no way he could've kept up anything like that pace.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906923)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: vermilion arousing space

Morrison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902763)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Fragrant bbw meetinghouse

Joplin wouldn't be anywhere close to as famous if not for her death. Her most well-known album, with pretty much the only songs people know from her, was released posthumously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902783)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: overrated liquid oxygen field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902803)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: lavender office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905080)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: overrated liquid oxygen field

Sublime is another example of an early death drastically increasing their popularity. Not on the same level as some others, but certainly worth mentioning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902816)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: dun bearded orchestra pit

that's probably true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902828)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Obsidian point

I heard an obscure sublime song last weekend that I had never heard before (not one of the usual ones you hear on the radio). it was awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902844)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Sublime are HUGE among the appropriate age group.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904987)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: sable startling french chef

Morrison. He was on his way to becoming a has-been fat boomer when he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35902875)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:42 PM
Author: beady-eyed stage rigpig

Jim Morrison, easily. He was already in a steep decline.

Could maybe argue Ian Curtis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904948)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Buddy Holly had a lot of future potential. Richie Valens and the Big Bopper OTOH are only remembered for dying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904958)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building

janis joplin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904983)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio

Sid Vicious, because he was a shitty "musician" and an utter retard who wouldn't have been able to go onto anything else and basically did nothing else but die. Instead he became an icon, on t-shirts, had movies made about him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35904991)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

I don't think he has a musical legacy though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905041)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio

well, OP said "musician's legacy", not musical legacy in particular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905049)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building

this is pretty cr. look what became of johnny rotten post sex pistols. just a bloated rat faced brit with nothing interesting to say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905070)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio

Actually Public Image Ltd was a great band who made some really good albums in the 80s. And Rotten was a clever guy. But Sid Vicious was a literal retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905073)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: sticky talented mother gas station

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905078)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: aphrodisiac seedy sanctuary son of senegal

Rotten had Public Image Ltd which was far superior to the Sex Pistols

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905074)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Public Image Ltd is pretty cr, faggit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905075)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:07 PM
Author: curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building

listen guys i never heard this public image or whatever band so i stand by my post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905098)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: sticky talented mother gas station

I'd say that he didn't have nearly as much fame with PiL as he did with the Sex Pistols

But they still put out some good music

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905286)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: carmine histrionic stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906078)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: excitant federal den

Cobain easily, give nirvana two more albums and he's not the "voice of a generation" they're just another grunge band

Morrison was basically done already when he died and Hendrix would have done at least a couple more cool things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905081)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Cobain had future potential. He was actually talking about moving on from grunge before he offed himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905088)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905091)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: excitant federal den

Sure, sure. It would have sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905111)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: curious disturbing faggot firefighter church building

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905206)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:07 PM
Author: Aromatic bronze goyim digit ratio

What about Bob Marley? He's revered as almost a religious, mystical figure thanks to his early death. Would he have turned into a boring old GC faggot later in life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905102)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Naw. He died at 36 from natural causes. I think his popularity is based on a solid catalog of hits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905151)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: avocado legal warrant menage

speaking of him, that's kind of what happened to robert johnson. going from a regional celebrity to some kind of "blues saint," in large part because he died young.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905224)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: brindle racy school cafeteria

Nah, reefer Bob was legit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905840)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal private investor step-uncle's house

Scott Weiland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905202)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: sticky talented mother gas station

The Scott Weiland story is what would have happened to Kurt Cobain had he lived that long

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35905295)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: spruce forum therapy

cr. scott weiland would be held in far higher esteem had he not turned into an insufferable junkie twink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906073)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: charismatic violet chapel round eye

The guy who sang la bamba

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906044)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: misanthropic floppy stag film karate

Richie Valens, already mentioned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906053)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: carmine histrionic stage

Isaac Brock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957604&forum_id=2#35906079)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:03 AM
Author: citrine demanding mad-dog skullcap ticket booth

morrison is prolly most cr

but Elliott Smith is pretty close

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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:20 AM
Author: sticky talented mother gas station

My moniker is partly an homage to E. Smith but I don't really agree with him being a candidate for this thread. He hit a certain level of popularity in the early 2000s and just kinda maintained it. Didn't really increase it much posthumously IMO

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