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American Ballet Theatre's principal dancer can't do 32 fouettes. LOL

What a global embarrassment. The Russians are mocking us now...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
(rancid Mikhail Baryshnikov trolling)
fantasy-prone den cumskin
  04/25/18
(american lib "male" who can't do 1 fouette)
lemon halford
  04/25/18
(american lib "male" who knows what a fouette is)
fantasy-prone den cumskin
  04/25/18
(american lib "male" who thinks misty copeland is ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
(american lib "male" who follows professional ball...
fantasy-prone den cumskin
  04/25/18
Bad night or can she not do them all?
lilac pervert
  04/25/18
old school technique is not her forte -- and that's ok!
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
What is her forte other than being diverse?
lilac pervert
  04/25/18
gettin' crump
stirring athletic conference
  04/25/18
well, she is hot
lemon halford
  04/25/18
technically she sucks
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
that's old school. we da new school
jade glittery abode famous landscape painting
  04/25/18
...
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
can't do them at all. she's never done it
lemon halford
  04/25/18
jfc
Translucent Territorial Theater Stage
  04/25/18
jfc
galvanic hunting ground
  04/25/18
LOL
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
...
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
I’m happy to share this because I will forever be a work in ...
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
I discussed Misty Copeland’s technical issues in two previou...
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
The list of dancers with name recognition among non-ballet f...
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
"The list of dancers with name recognition among non-ba...
Drab forum useless brakes
  04/25/18
...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
good read. ty
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
Silver nibblets
  04/25/18
ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING
Irradiated kitchen cuck
  04/25/18
it's obviously not her fault. it's the retarded libs who put...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
cr just like obama
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
...
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
libs, opine
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
Heady property
  04/25/18
they don't score on technicality because it's assumed. you ...
galvanic hunting ground
  04/25/18
to be fair, she has a point in the sense that, who the fuck ...
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
a nigger will never move me.
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
they should have never given her the principal dancer role t...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
Principal designer? What is that
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
("lib" male)
lemon halford
  04/25/18
There are like 20 "principal dancers". It's not on...
Ruby exciting chad
  04/25/18
there are 8 females: http://www.abt.org/the-company/dancers/...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
how much do PDs make
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
probably not that much. the tickets are quite inexpensive fo...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
200k in ballet is pretty prestigious, assuem they get sponso...
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
...
bossy state
  04/25/18
i fucking hate this bullshit. it's such an American/GC to ba...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
...
Cocky private investor
  04/25/18
niggers: stay out of white peoples arts. go do rap or someth...
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
Andre Watts: full professor at Indiana Prince tp: replacing...
bossy state
  04/25/18
Idiocracy
abnormal electric box office pocket flask
  04/25/18
one thing idiocracy didnt anticipate is that its the niggers...
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
Actually, they failed to predict the white libs at the begin...
disrespectful 180 factory reset button
  04/25/18
Something old and cherished is being denigrated. Who could b...
Silver nibblets
  04/25/18
im surprised goldman has black MDs
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
i just googled "best ballet dancer in the world" ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
good insight here on her physical limitations "One r...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
Fucking racist ass cracka
bossy state
  04/25/18
i do question it because gabby douglas won the olympic gold ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
I learned a lot about ballet ITT
Contagious crystalline institution
  04/25/18
...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
histrionic bearded address psychic
  04/25/18
Flippables 6 days ago (edited) Mallorie, I'll try to expla...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
ty. golf is nothing without tiger. i don't fault the ballet ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
fuck that
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
(starving crippling disease-ridden guitarist who won't sell ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
Tiger is a historically great talent, though. Sure some of ...
Talented Insane Cuckoldry Elastic Band
  04/25/18
I don't disagree with this at all, but a lot of people who w...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
Tiger =/= Misty Tiger did shit over and over again that h...
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
You're missing the point of the comparison. The commenter...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
yes, there was a massive collapse of the fan base after tige...
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
in terms of actual talent i agree, no comparison. i'm no Tig...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
No, you are missing the point that Tiger is a poor compariso...
Talented Insane Cuckoldry Elastic Band
  04/26/18
ballet noobs, please watch this for comparison purposes: htt...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
night and day different. ty for poasting
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
Libs?
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
russians are elite. alina zagitova was certainly inspired by...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
they are angel goddesses who will always prevail in artistic...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
...
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
the shit she does with her arms is cool
Contagious crystalline institution
  04/25/18
Not a single FOUETTE
Ruby exciting chad
  04/25/18
she's an artist, not a trick pony
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
Thread is filled with ballet mfes who are particularly conce...
Ruby exciting chad
  04/25/18
fine, here's lopatkina doing the fouettes. starts a few seco...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
Lmao the black chick looks like a stumbling monkey in compar...
Irradiated kitchen cuck
  04/25/18
misty only does half of the fouettes. it used to be that to ...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
holy shit Misty Copeland is DONE HERE
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
holy shit, 180
histrionic bearded address psychic
  04/25/18
Jfc that was 180. Like a night and day difference from misty...
Chocolate Gay Wizard Water Buffalo
  04/25/18
180
lemon halford
  04/25/18
Amazing.
beady-eyed sick headpube
  04/25/18
180000 friend
Ruby exciting chad
  04/25/18
So THIS is what this thread is all about? Yes, one would nee...
Heady property
  11/17/20
holy shit, that's otherworldly. it's like her legs and upper...
galvanic hunting ground
  04/26/18
"DAT TOO MANY FOUETTES. Spread dem pirouettes out."...
Brass Concupiscible Gas Station Doctorate
  04/25/18
...
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
She went en pointe for the first time at 13...girl has got t...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
don't most dancers not go en pointe much earlier than 13 any...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
i think most dancers start at like age 2 and go en pointe wh...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
yes they start earlier, but dancers don't go en pointe until...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
lol wtf is ballet practice for before age 13-14...just pranc...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
ballet is about having perfect control of every muscle in yo...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
...
shaky arousing national
  04/25/18
...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
BEEP BEEP BEEP
nudist pisswyrm
  04/25/18
(homo)
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
this chick is much better and she's like 45 years old htt...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
really? she looks big and movements are not very elegant ...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/25/18
lol. i'm not comparing her to the russians. that's obviously...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
pathetic.
Smoky yarmulke
  04/25/18
ballet dancers are IRATE "Now that she's a principal...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
MORE "Last time I checked, ABT alone had dancers of ...
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
more people getting WOKE by the day
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
I am loving these highly technical and absolutely devastatin...
Irradiated kitchen cuck
  04/25/18
this is exactly the type of scandal that an autistic message...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
It doesn't take autism to understand that they CHANGED THE C...
Irradiated kitchen cuck
  04/25/18
it's ok brother, you're safe now
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
...
histrionic bearded address psychic
  04/25/18
c fuckin r
galvanic hunting ground
  04/25/18
ty
lemon halford
  04/25/18
...
boyish sound barrier
  04/25/18
seems a little anti-semitic
Metal Vibrant Stage
  04/25/18
i saw Cojocaru in her prime and although i didn't know jack ...
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
yeah, she's good
lemon halford
  04/26/18
I have a date tonight with a chick into Opera and ballet and...
Irradiated kitchen cuck
  04/25/18
wow
galvanic hunting ground
  04/25/18
gl friend
histrionic bearded address psychic
  04/25/18
18000000000000
lemon halford
  04/25/18
pls report back
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
...
beady-eyed sick headpube
  04/25/18
zozo is the single best source of info on the webs. go go fo...
Milky big giraffe
  04/25/18
Good luck, brother.
Drab forum useless brakes
  04/25/18
?
Drab forum useless brakes
  04/26/18
I remember hen this chick first becam a principal dancer and...
Appetizing dilemma
  04/25/18
perhaps she'd only be able to do 1/4 as many FOUETTES, as op...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
When a half black half white does something bad, it's the bl...
disrespectful 180 factory reset button
  04/25/18
very simple. how can blue smoke not understand this?
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
this is what xoxo stupidly believes, yes
Appetizing dilemma
  04/26/18
It's the black part of her background that's created the sit...
brilliant philosopher-king
  04/25/18
TBF, this is a pretty gay thread
lilac pervert
  04/25/18
?
Fragrant orange partner office
  04/25/18
?
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
Get your T checked son
mind-boggling unholy station
  04/25/18
ballet isn't gay, lil breh
Chocolate Gay Wizard Water Buffalo
  04/25/18
this is ballet actually?
disrespectful 180 factory reset button
  04/25/18
?
harsh vigorous mad cow disease
  04/25/18
do you even fouette?
lemon halford
  04/26/18
I wasn't going to comment and rarely poast, but I felt I owe...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/25/18
SCHOLARSHIP
aggressive orchestra pit friendly grandma
  04/25/18
180 poast
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
brother, thoughts on this ballet thread? http://xoxohth.c...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/25/18
I wouldn't put a daughter I loved in it in a competitive gro...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
Someone told me their 5'9", 155 lb daughter had a good ...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/26/18
LULNO https://youtu.be/vv7nJtYXr_M?t=4s
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
LOL she looks like she's practicing discus throwing rather t...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/26/18
Zero chance. Not .0000001. Zero.
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
Apparently she tried out for a couple companies in the Pacif...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/26/18
People like that can end up teaching at the Denton, TX Schoo...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
she's amazing
lemon halford
  04/26/18
In defnse of the ABT dancer being focused upon: though the ...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
180
shaky arousing national
  04/26/18
1800000 scholarship. tyty
lemon halford
  04/26/18
...
razzle-dazzle temple
  04/26/18
xoxo balletpumo
lemon halford
  04/26/18
...
Metal Vibrant Stage
  04/26/18
...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/26/18
do you have a link to the rehearsal video?
lemon halford
  04/26/18
I have looked and cannot find it. Skimmed back two years on...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
DESCRIBE in detail how you banged a group of ballet nubiles
lemon halford
  04/26/18
There's not too much to say. I ran through about 6 of them ...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
I have a friend who was in the Corps of a prestigious Europe...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/26/18
Very common, and the ratio 15:1 ratio makes it extremely, al...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
Ungh
lilac pervert
  04/26/18
180^180
lemon halford
  04/26/18
It's good that all happened when I was young and innocent an...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
How hard for Bro to go pro? It seems like there must be litt...
Ruby exciting chad
  04/26/18
...
Outnumbered hilarious parlour deer antler
  04/26/18
180 ballet brother, how many fouettes can you do?
lemon halford
  04/26/18
I don't know. I haven't danced in 15 years. Even for guys...
Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete
  04/26/18
...
Awkward shimmering cruise ship mexican
  04/26/18
Last paragraph blew my hair back.
disrespectful 180 factory reset button
  04/26/18
...
Zombie-like charismatic turdskin
  04/26/18
lmao 180 post
galvanic hunting ground
  04/26/18
here's her colleague's fouette turns. it's one of the best i...
lemon halford
  04/26/18
...
laughsome citrine dopamine nowag
  04/26/18
...
histrionic bearded address psychic
  04/26/18
damn
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/26/18
yes, but is she diverse?
nudist pisswyrm
  04/26/18
Gillian Murphy is a non-white name (xo poa
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/26/18
she's not the best. she's outpacing the music because if she...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/26/18
(guy questioning the foettes of a principal at the american ...
lemon halford
  04/26/18
there are no prestigious american ballet companies anymore
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/26/18
what are the most prestigious ones? all in Russia/Europe?
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/26/18
all in russia. russian academies have extremely brutal selec...
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/26/18
ljl. there are only 2-3 prestigious ones in mother russia. b...
lemon halford
  04/26/18
i think you mean there are mariinsky rejects at ABT
disturbing hairless bawdyhouse
  04/26/18
(guy who has no idea what he's talking about)
lemon halford
  04/26/18
itt: spinning rats
Motley hell dog poop
  04/26/18
it's still only April and this has to be in the running for ...
Milky big giraffe
  04/26/18
180 fouettes
dun greedy set faggotry
  05/15/18
...
ruddy affirmative action lay
  02/11/19
180 thread
Ruby exciting chad
  02/19/19
...
slap-happy unhinged prole new version
  02/19/19
...
slap-happy unhinged prole new version
  03/15/20
sorry to be contrary here, but Misty is the best at what she...
Iridescent low-t trump supporter trailer park
  03/15/20
...
slap-happy unhinged prole new version
  11/17/20
Where are we on this
beady-eyed sick headpube
  11/17/20
...
Ruby exciting chad
  03/12/22
cb
Ruby exciting chad
  04/04/22
...
curious cowardly area love of her life
  04/04/22


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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: lemon halford

What a global embarrassment. The Russians are mocking us now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzBcOByHpeY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915431)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: fantasy-prone den cumskin

(rancid Mikhail Baryshnikov trolling)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915433)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: lemon halford

(american lib "male" who can't do 1 fouette)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915439)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: fantasy-prone den cumskin

(american lib "male" who knows what a fouette is)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915444)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: lemon halford

(american lib "male" who thinks misty copeland is the world's greatest ballet dancer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915457)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: fantasy-prone den cumskin

(american lib "male" who follows professional ballet's most pressing developments with drooling lust)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915534)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: lilac pervert

Bad night or can she not do them all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915840)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Milky big giraffe

old school technique is not her forte -- and that's ok!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915896)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: lilac pervert

What is her forte other than being diverse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915929)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: stirring athletic conference

gettin' crump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915936)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: lemon halford

well, she is hot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916728)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

technically she sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915916)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: jade glittery abode famous landscape painting

that's old school. we da new school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916037)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921534)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: lemon halford

can't do them at all. she's never done it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915938)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Translucent Territorial Theater Stage

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35915966)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

jfc

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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916043)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

I’m happy to share this because I will forever be a work in progress and will never stop learning. I learn from seeing myself on film and rarely get to. So thank you.

I will always reiterate that I am by no means the best in ballet. I understand my position and what I represent. I know that I’m in a very unique position and have been given a rare platform. All I’ve ever wanted is to bring ballet to more people and to help to diversify it.

I’ve worked extremely hard to be where I am and I believe that what I bring to the table is authentic artistry with a unique point of view through my life experiences, and my unusual path and upbringing. Also as a black woman and black ballerina. I would love to see all of the incredible deserving black dancers get the opportunities that I have.

I will forever be humbled and extremely grateful for the fact that I get to do what I love for a living, that I get to do all of the incredible roles that I do, in particular Swan Queen.

There are so many ballerinas that never get to experience dancing the most iconic and demanding role in a ballerinas repertoire. I have so so so much respect for what I do and for the ballerinas I stand on the shoulders of. I’m in awe everyday that I am a part of such an incredible art form that has changed and enriched my life in so many ways and that I get to do it all with ABT.

I don’t decide who’s promoted or what roles I dance. I never envisioned myself as the Swan Queen after being in the company for almost 15 years before i was given the opportunity. I have such deep and conflicting feelings connected to Swan Lake. As a black woman and as a ballerina given the chance to take on this role. I often question if I deserve to perform this role. My conclusion, I do. Some of the most memorable Swan Queens in history have brought so much more to this role without having to present the incredible and evolved technique of today by doing insane tricks that bring some to see Swan Lake. For the anticipated 32 fouettés. But it is so much more than that. People come to see ballet for the escape. For the experience of being moved through our movement and artistry, not to score us on the technicality of what we do. This is why ballet is not a sport.

A ballerinas career is not, nor should be defined by how many fouettés she executes. They are a part of the choreography to tell a story of pulling off the entrancement she holds over prince Siegfried. The point is to finish the 3rd act with a whirlwind movement that sucks him in just one last time before it’s revealed that Odile is not Odette.

This is the incredible beauty of ballet. To move people.

I’m happy to have this dialogue because it’s something I believe in whole heartedly. The history of ballet and it’s origin of pure freedom and expression is what we need to hold onto. Not to come into the theatre as a critic armed with judgement.

I do appreciate the changes in the ballet technique, focused on evolving our technical abilities, but the point is to move people and for them to understand the stories we tell through dance. And that is an incredible responsibility and opportunity I will never take for granted.

What followed were gushing puff pieces in Elle, Dance Magazine, Glamour #1, Glamour #2, Cosmopolitan. Glowing comments from Glamour included: “Misty Copeland is one of the most talented working ballerinas right now, full stop.” “For what it’s worth, Copeland’s so-called “fail” was absolute fire.” Dance Magazine’s contribution to this media blitz was to argue that fouettés don’t matter, and that Misty is held to a higher standard than other dancers. This looks like an orchestrated public relations effort to get out in front of the negative video: (1) post a comment early in the comment thread of the video; (2) find a negative comment on Twitter and respond; (3) alert media allies for favorable press portraying gracious Misty versus The Haters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916648)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

I discussed Misty Copeland’s technical issues in two previous reviews from last year’s American Ballet Theatre Met season: Don Quixote and Swan Lake. In general, in difficult technical segments, Misty tends to simplify steps, in particular her fouetté turns, the punctuating mark in Kitri and Odile’s solos in the Grand Pas de Deux.

No longer must we rely on descriptions of her turns in the iconic Swan Lake segment as it is now on YouTube. A pirate video from ABT’s March 15 Swan Lake performance has been the source of much commentary (postings on BalletAlert go on for pages). The 57-second video filmed from the audience shows the turn section of the Grand Pas de Deux with Misty and Herman Cornejo in which Misty does 13 turns followed by piqué turns to fill out the music before Herman does pirouettes á la seconde.

My thoughts:

Some suggest that Misty had an off night in Singapore. I disagree. Her Singapore fouettés were not an anomaly as the video generally represents the quality of her turns, albeit at a slightly lower level. I saw her in Don Quixote and Swan Lake last Met season. She generally performed 15-18 fouetté turns followed by simpler piqué turns to fill out the music as she did in Singapore. The only difference is that her Singapore segment was captured on video.

Her fouettés are tentative, without the necessary energy and gusto to maintain the repetitive series of turns. Her “spotting” lacks spark as her head blandly moves from front to front (spotting is a technique dancers use during turns by delaying rotation of the head until it snaps around to the original position, focusing on a particular “spot” while the body rotates at a constant speed.) Also characteristic of her turns is a rightward movement of her body during the turns. Last year, she started her turns stage left rather than center stage to compensate. In Singapore she started slightly stage right. Given her progressive movements to the right, she had to shut down the turns before she ran out of space.

On the video, it wasn’t just her fouetté turns that were problematic; her piqué turns that followed were also lackluster, with her trailing leg barely off the ground rather than in a retiré position.

The contrast between her turn segment and Herman’s is stark. Herman was impressive as always in his pirouettes á la seconde (also known as turns in second position), a great mix of power and control. The point of Odile’s technical wizardry with 32 turns is to whip Prince Siegfried into a state of extreme desire, enticing the Prince to break his vow to Odette. Given the mismatch of technical achievement, it looks as if the Prince is seducing Odile, not in line with the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916727)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

The list of dancers with name recognition among non-ballet fans is short. Any list of ballet celebrities whose fame transcends the ballet world would include Mikhail Baryshnikov-global; Rudolph Nureyev-global; Julio Bocca-Latin America; Maya Plisetskaya-Russia; Roberto Bolle-Italy; Margot Fonteyn-Great Britain; Sylvie Guillem-France. A common thread among the dancers is their rare technical abilities combined with dramatic flair and charismatic persona that put them far above other dancers. Such talent allowed these dancers to go mainstream in popular culture.

Misty’s source of celebrity status is different from the dancers above. Rather than gaining fame through jaw-dropping technical achievement and memorable dramatics, her source of popularity is her background and path breaking accomplishment as the first African-American Principal Dancer at ABT. For star dancers, dancing principal roles in their early 20s was just the start of their journey. For Misty’s fans, her promotion to Principal Dancer at age 32 is an end itself, with her performances a celebration of her achievement.

For her fans, technical commentary on her dancing misses the main point; her primary contribution is that she has broken barriers in the ballet world, serving as an inspiration and role model to many who would otherwise not be exposed to the art form, helping to diversify dance. To her detractors, the publicity she generates is out of proportion to her accomplishments on stage. Examples are comments from Glamour above in addition to the Dance Magazine Power List of the most influential people in dance, proclaiming that she is “…the ballerina of our generation.”

A video that shows technique not up to current day standards adds to the gulf between her technical abilities and her press fueled celebrity status.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916729)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Drab forum useless brakes

"The list of dancers with name recognition among non-ballet fans is short."

Empty list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916813)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918318)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: lemon halford

good read. ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916767)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Silver nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916950)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Irradiated kitchen cuck

ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918145)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: lemon halford

it's obviously not her fault. it's the retarded libs who put her in this position in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916744)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

cr just like obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916749)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916786)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: lemon halford

libs, opine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916815)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: Heady property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919704)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

they don't score on technicality because it's assumed.

you don't see pianists at the chopin competition "simplify" the more difficult codas because "the goal is to move people"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916884)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

to be fair, she has a point in the sense that, who the fuck follows/cares about ballet nowadays? doestn hurt ot try to interest more people in it through other means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916894)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease

a nigger will never move me.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916902)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: lemon halford

they should have never given her the principal dancer role though. this was just an awful move on their part. they could have given her another role or even invented one just for her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916926)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

Principal designer? What is that



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916971)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: lemon halford

("lib" male)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917399)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

There are like 20 "principal dancers". It's not one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917378)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: lemon halford

there are 8 females: http://www.abt.org/the-company/dancers/

lots of kyooties too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917430)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

how much do PDs make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917438)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: lemon halford

probably not that much. the tickets are quite inexpensive for being the most prestigious ballet company in the usa

i just saw this, "A Principal Dancer at American Ballet Theatre in New York, NY earns an average of $177,038, ranging from $175,998 at the 25th percentile to $178,071 at the 75th percentile, with top earners (the top 10%) earning more than $179,012. Compensation is derived from fewer than 20 profiles, including base salary, equity and bonus."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917459)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

200k in ballet is pretty prestigious, assuem they get sponsorships and shit too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917486)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: bossy state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917492)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

i fucking hate this bullshit. it's such an American/GC to bastardize everything just to appeal to more people.

ballet is great. in fact, i have tickets to take my niece next month and she is thrilled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918042)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Cocky private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916670)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease

niggers: stay out of white peoples arts. go do rap or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916730)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: bossy state

Andre Watts: full professor at Indiana

Prince tp: replacing urinal cakes at CVS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916980)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: abnormal electric box office pocket flask

Idiocracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916843)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease

one thing idiocracy didnt anticipate is that its the niggers and the browns that will take our country into full idiocracy mode.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916856)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: disrespectful 180 factory reset button

Actually, they failed to predict the white libs at the beginning of the film using brown people as a tool to ensure idiocracy happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35916979)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: Silver nibblets

Something old and cherished is being denigrated. Who could be behind such a thing?

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-goldman-sachs-partner-behind-misty-copeland-2015-6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917016)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

im surprised goldman has black MDs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917032)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: lemon halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917247)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918044)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: lemon halford

i just googled "best ballet dancer in the world"

lol libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917481)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: lemon halford

good insight here on her physical limitations

"One reason why a lot of black women struggle to find employment in ballet is because of their body type. Typically, black people tend to build muscle a lot easier then most white people. This often means that black women training in ballet will not achieve the right lines as their muscles are too bulky. That is what is meant by her not having the right body type. So she has clearly worked hard to not overbuild her muscles. However, in the end I definitely do not consider her to be one of the greats by any means."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917506)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: bossy state

Fucking racist ass cracka

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35917516)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: lemon halford

i do question it because gabby douglas won the olympic gold on a petite frame. obviously they're different sports with different requirements though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918246)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Contagious crystalline institution

I learned a lot about ballet ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918017)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: lemon halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919314)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:33 PM
Author: histrionic bearded address psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919649)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

Flippables

6 days ago (edited)

Mallorie, I'll try to explain the best I can, but please read through :)) Also, I can not speak for everybody here, just for myself.

The most important differential is do you like ballet, and how much classical Petipa ballet have you seen in your life?The reason I'm asking, is because if you are new to it, everything will look just fine, but it is not... It takes some background, knowledge, and a trained eye to tell the difference. I was rooting for Misty, and in most cases was very forgiving of her occasional technical deficiencies, until I read her answer to critique for this performance. There she called 100 year old technique "insane tricks", people who pay attention to it, someone who came ONLY to count fouettes. She defended her right to dance these parts, and subversively pushed that artistry is more important that technique. You see, in classical ballet artistry does not exist without solid technique, never. For people who love and cherish classical Petipa ballets with their over 100 year old traditions this is about preserving a time honored tradition in a beloved art form.

It appears that Misty has never been able to fulfill technical requirements of Petipa ballets, there is no evidence of that (again, an untrained eye will not see it). Thus she and her supporters are pushing for easier version of choreography, and baletomans are objecting.

There is also a big question if Misty brings new spectators to ballet, will they only watch her, and leave not interested in ballet and other dancers, or they will become people interested in this old art form. There is a concern that the latter may never happen, and people are mostly attracted to Misty's status as celebrity, and not a dancer. In which case, why do we loose classical choreography for? Is it even worth it? Why not cast Misty in parts that are more suitable for her like Firebird, or Romeo and Juliet.

There is a suspicion that the administration wants to cast her in the most acclaimed parts to deceive the viewers that she is fully capable to fulfill all the technical requirements Petipa ballets have. There is probably (I"m guessing) a push to capitalize on the residual interest from the movie Black swan, and bring in Misty's supporters.

But for ballet tradition, ballet devotees, and probably for preserving choreography in Petipa ballets, these are all wrong choices. So people like me are opposing this trend to "water down" classical ballet..

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This is the MFCR, and it kinda reminds me of golf and Tiger Woods. Did Tiger really expand golf, or did people just watch him for his celebrity?

I've LONG argued on xo that Americans aren't fans of sports (or even high culture like ballet), but instead are simply fans of celebrity and event status. This commenter seems to agree to some extent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918072)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: lemon halford

ty. golf is nothing without tiger. i don't fault the ballet company for trying to push misty copeland. everyone involved gets richer in the end anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918143)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

fuck that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918167)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: lemon halford

(starving crippling disease-ridden guitarist who won't sell out)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918194)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: Talented Insane Cuckoldry Elastic Band

Tiger is a historically great talent, though. Sure some of his fans only care about celebrity, but he does have fans who only care about technique

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921473)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

I don't disagree with this at all, but a lot of people who were drawn to golf because of Tiger didn't necessarily stay as golf fans post-Tiger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921569)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe

Tiger =/= Misty

Tiger did shit over and over again that had not been done before. Misty can't do the basics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921630)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

You're missing the point of the comparison.

The commenter was saying that one of the pro-Misty arguments is that she will bring more attention and viewers to ballet, but she questions whether that attention will be solely focused on Misty and won't last after she's gone, in which case ballet's fan base won't have really been expanded because of Misty.

In some respects Tiger had the same effect. A lot of people only watched golf FOR him; they didn't become long-lasting golf fans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921654)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe

yes, there was a massive collapse of the fan base after tiger shat the bed. and lots of golf courses closed.

i still can't countenance a comparison of the two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921687)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

in terms of actual talent i agree, no comparison. i'm no Tiger fan, but he was very good.

i think the takeaway is that cultivating fan bases based on celebrity only creates fans of celebrity, not fans of the underlying activity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921726)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: Talented Insane Cuckoldry Elastic Band

No, you are missing the point that Tiger is a poor comparison to the situation ITT because Tiger brings in confounding factors, eg he was a winner (and people like winners), and he had historically great talent/technique (which did expand the possibilities of golf). We agree that many Tiger fans don't care about the underlying technique.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922289)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

ballet noobs, please watch this for comparison purposes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2UeKKac-s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918083)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

night and day different. ty for poasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918117)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918159)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: lemon halford

russians are elite. alina zagitova was certainly inspired by her country's ballet culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918168)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

they are angel goddesses who will always prevail in artistic sport over roid-"women" americans and robotic asians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918189)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918212)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Contagious crystalline institution

the shit she does with her arms is cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918172)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

Not a single FOUETTE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918699)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

she's an artist, not a trick pony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918712)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

Thread is filled with ballet mfes who are particularly concerned about Misty's inability to execute 32 fouettes. You could provide a better comparison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918851)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

fine, here's lopatkina doing the fouettes. starts a few seconds past the 5 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liX1exuIkks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918995)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Irradiated kitchen cuck

Lmao the black chick looks like a stumbling monkey in comparison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919462)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

misty only does half of the fouettes. it used to be that to play the swan queen, you had to do 32 at minimum. it was a basic requirement, not an aspiration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919579)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

holy shit Misty Copeland is DONE HERE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919485)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: histrionic bearded address psychic

holy shit, 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919592)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Chocolate Gay Wizard Water Buffalo

Jfc that was 180. Like a night and day difference from misty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919602)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: lemon halford

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919678)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: beady-eyed sick headpube

Amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921437)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

180000 friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921975)



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Date: November 17th, 2020 2:19 PM
Author: Heady property

So THIS is what this thread is all about? Yes, one would need a WHITE BODY like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#41383206)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

holy shit, that's otherworldly. it's like her legs and upper body are 2 different people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926015)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Brass Concupiscible Gas Station Doctorate

"DAT TOO MANY FOUETTES. Spread dem pirouettes out."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918202)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918216)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

She went en pointe for the first time at 13...girl has got talent, so there is that.

Isn't she really old for a ballet dancer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918250)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

don't most dancers not go en pointe much earlier than 13 anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918282)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

i think most dancers start at like age 2 and go en pointe when they are really young

she didn't start dancing until like age 13

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918287)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

yes they start earlier, but dancers don't go en pointe until a certain age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointe_technique

>> Although age is not necessarily a prerequisite, many ballet students do not begin to dance en pointe earlier than approximately 12–14 years of age because bones in the feet are often too soft prior to that age and, in such cases, serious and permanent foot injuries could result from starting pointe work too early.[1][6][7] The long bones in feet begin to harden within the ages of 8 to 14, dancing en pointe before one's bones have hardened can lead to trauma and growth-plate fractures that create deformed feet.[2] <<

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918365)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

lol wtf is ballet practice for before age 13-14...just prancing around in tutus? seems dumb if not en pointe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918376)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

ballet is about having perfect control of every muscle in your body, and that takes a lot of time of non- pointe work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918483)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: shaky arousing national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918527)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918571)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918487)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

(homo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919392)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: lemon halford

this chick is much better and she's like 45 years old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxT5gnXs4Ug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918313)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

really? she looks big and movements are not very elegant

the russian woman posted earlier seems more CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918327)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: lemon halford

lol. i'm not comparing her to the russians. that's obviously in a different league

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918342)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35918359)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: Smoky yarmulke

pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919315)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: lemon halford

ballet dancers are IRATE

"Now that she's a principal, she has suffered more than the mythical character of Moses in order to scale the mountains of ballet! The real reason she's been held back is lack of high-end skills, which she herself admits. And this promotion was a marketing bonanza for ABT, because if you've ever actually paid the $265 to see her dance as Odette in 'Swan Lake' or as Gamzatti in 'La Bayadère' for example, you'd realize it's a great disappointment to see that both the solo and PDD parts were changed in order to accommodate her inability to perform higher-end skills. Alexei Ratmansky, the former artistic director of the Bolshoi, remodeled the choreography of Firebird to accommodate her limitations. I saw Copeland dance a pas de deux with Herman Cornejo for Kenneth MacMillan's ballet "Manon," and her fouettes were low and her grand jetes were jumped almost in place. I wasn't the only one in the audience cringing.

Compare her to Alina Cojocaru, Polina Semionova, Lucia Lacarra, Dorothee Gilbert -- or anyone -- and within three minutes you realize you're watching the understudy. Copeland's promotion to principal is great TV talkshow faire, but not on stage. I'm done."

https://www.reddit.com/r/BALLET/comments/3xeav5/the_rise_and_rise_of_misty_copeland/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919369)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: lemon halford

MORE

"Last time I checked, ABT alone had dancers of Filipino descent, at least ten Asian or Asian-American dancers, five Brazilian dancers, and six dancers of Hispanic heritage. Hey, but only the black girl "struggled."

But on her hardluck story, she recalls, in her own words:

"I came from a San Pedro, California, family that didn't always have enough food to eat, let alone money to spend on a hobby, and it wasn't until I was 13 years old that I could even take my first ballet class. Most of my dance peers had grown up immersed in the arts, putting on their first tutus not long after they learned to talk. They had summered in Europe, while I didn't get my first passport until I was 17. Their families had weekend homes. I had spent part of my adolescence living on the floor of a shabby motel with my single mom."

She tells the story differently depending on the audience, and so does her mother. They briefly lived at the Sunset Inn in Gardena, California and her dance class fees were waived, and soon after she moved in Cindy Bradley and her husband, who owned the dance studio in San Pedro. At 15, Copeland attended the San Francisco Ballet summer intensive program on a full scholarship; at the end of it she was invited to study with the school. (She turned the invitation down.) Does that sound like discrimination to you?

What does "summering in Europe" have to do with learning to dance? There are dance seminars and courses during holidays around the world, not just in Europe. And when asked which motels she ever stayed in, she can't remember, even though living in a motel day-by-day is one of the most expensive and foolish wastes of money unless she's talking very short-term stays. I doubt her mom was working three jobs and still starving.

Then she talks at length about her "curvy" and "black" body and how she didn't have a 'Balanchine' body and that held her back, but that springs from genetics, not from outside discrimination. Besides, the company that does Balachine was New York City Ballet, not American Ballet Theatre (ABT). Copeland could have moved up the ranks much faster had she chosen any other company, but she wanted to dance in the corps for ABT, period. As for her body, there are women with much better bodies and more curves in ballet than Misty -- Sylvie Guillem, Iana Salenko, Elisa Carrillo Cabrera, Shoko Nakamura, Polina Semionova, Natasha Kusch, Marina Kanno, Beatrice Knop, Nadja Saidakova, Jordin Mullin, Elisa Carrillo Cabrera... I could do this all day, but you see the point.

Yet every other teen star athlete shares a similar story of family sacrifice. Read how entire families will support a young man in the minor leagues of baseball for as many as ten years before finally getting one day in the majors. Or of professional boxers who spend 15 years boxing every venue within an 800-mile radius of their home before they finally get a chance at a fight that really pays off. Tennis players, wrestlers, football, soccer, basketball players all share the same struggle. Sierra Leone-born Michaela DePrince spent her early years in an orphanage after her father was killed during the civil war in her country!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919373)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919397)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

more people getting WOKE by the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919376)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Irradiated kitchen cuck

I am loving these highly technical and absolutely devastating ballet screeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919484)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

this is exactly the type of scandal that an autistic message board would love

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919488)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: Irradiated kitchen cuck

It doesn't take autism to understand that they CHANGED THE CHOREOGRAPHY. Even after that, her fouettes were LOW and her grand jetes were jumped ALMOST IN PLACE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919585)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

it's ok brother, you're safe now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919711)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: histrionic bearded address psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919596)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

c fuckin r

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919611)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:40 PM
Author: lemon halford

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919691)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: boyish sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919627)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Metal Vibrant Stage

seems a little anti-semitic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919546)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe

i saw Cojocaru in her prime and although i didn't know jack shit about ballet, even i realized that she was killing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmByS22u8E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919762)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: lemon halford

yeah, she's good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922309)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Irradiated kitchen cuck

I have a date tonight with a chick into Opera and ballet and shit. I am going to drop some XO hot takes from this thread on her and see what happens.

p.s. my knowledge about ballet is comprised entirely of the content of this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919609)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:34 PM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919654)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: histrionic bearded address psychic

gl friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919660)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: lemon halford

18000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919681)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

pls report back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919699)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: beady-eyed sick headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921449)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe

zozo is the single best source of info on the webs. go go for and start a new thread on how it went.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919769)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Drab forum useless brakes

Good luck, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921331)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Drab forum useless brakes

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35923815)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Appetizing dilemma

I remember hen this chick first becam a principal dancer and black people were happy about it and all, xoxo was saying she's not "really" black because she's only half black and half white. Now, predictably when there's something negative to be said about her, she's just black. I don't think one person has made note of her half-white lineage . LOL

It's always this way. Whenever a mixed or light-skinned black person is lauded as pretty, smart or talented, xoxo rushes to say that they're not really black but if the same person is caught robbing a liquor or something they're just a plain ole nigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919719)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

perhaps she'd only be able to do 1/4 as many FOUETTES, as opposed to half, if she were 100% black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919770)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: disrespectful 180 factory reset button

When a half black half white does something bad, it's the black half. When they do something good, it's the white half. Are you dense, man?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921452)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease

very simple. how can blue smoke not understand this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921676)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: Appetizing dilemma

this is what xoxo stupidly believes, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35923276)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: brilliant philosopher-king

It's the black part of her background that's created the situation to start with. She obviously wouldn't have been pushed to such a visible position at her skill level were she white. I don't think anyone much cares about the race of a random mediocre corps dancer; we care about the stupid forcememing that is purely on the basis of race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921692)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: lilac pervert

TBF, this is a pretty gay thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919913)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Fragrant orange partner office

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919921)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35919926)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: mind-boggling unholy station

Get your T checked son

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35920889)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: Chocolate Gay Wizard Water Buffalo

ballet isn't gay, lil breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921425)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: disrespectful 180 factory reset button

this is ballet actually?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921639)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: harsh vigorous mad cow disease

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35921678)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: lemon halford

do you even fouette?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922312)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:49 PM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

I wasn't going to comment and rarely poast, but I felt I owed it to the GREATBORT. Genetic male BALLETPUMO here. Sad but true. My parents put me in it as a little kid. I quit in high school. I danced at some of the better places in MFH and surrounding areas (there are good ones in CT and Long Island, but I'm not outing self). I was better than most, but not great.

I've poasted on this subject before, but it didn't get traction because I didn't play up the race angle (by the way, she's like 50-75% white), you vile racists.

With that out of the way, she's technically atrocious on many skills. This is but one example.

Compare:

https://youtu.be/Jt2dGIfE4Z0?t=40s

[Mass dead center entire sequence. Nothing out of balance throughout any of the aggressive movements. Doesn't move more than a few inches on stage. Leg whip not perfect but strong. Quick. Smart. Purposeful. Tight. Controlled.]

With:

https://youtu.be/EzBcOByHpeY?t=4s

[Sluggish. Inelegant. Every turn is different and not because she's being artful and means for them to be. Goes two feet down on turn number 2 (whole point is to do them on one foot). Nearly falls on number 7. Spins 10 yards down stage. Cuts the sequence by more than half and then just spins around stage like a toddler on a playground. It was the ballet equivalent of running around with jazz hands for 20 seconds]

[EDIT: COMPARE THIS TOO: 13-YEAR-OLD ON SIMILAR SEQUENCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHvFcz4b7U]

Ballet goers are 99.99999% with HER liberals. Their acknowledgment that selection process has gone too far tells you how big of a difference this is. This is a D3 college player or good highschool player on a Lebron stage.

She does some other technical skills very well, but this is far from her only only major deficiency. A white girl from Seattle (or one that's not claiming she's black, anyway) would not be in a major group with her skill set. Not just not as a principal. Not in it at all. It's not a race thing, as she's mostly white. It's an affirmative action thing because she's got some non-white portion which is the reason she exists as she does (doesn't hurt that she's a kyootie).

The low level dancers in the ABT (ballet has a whole vocabulary for dancers' ranks in the company which I won't bore you with, but people below her) tweeted a -playful- video of their rehearsal shortly after Misty took the role and was made a principal. It was about 5 girls nailing a dozen or so of these turns in near perfect unison. Some accused the tweet of having a double meaning.

ALSO IF YOU WANT YOUR SONS TO NOT BE INCEL AND ARE PRETTY SURE THEY'LL BE STRAIGHT, PUT THEM IN BALLET. THINGS LIKE MUSICAL THEATER ARE 90% GAY. BALLET IS FAR FAR FAR LESS. BY AGE 12, ITS 10-20 GIRLS FOR EVERY GUY, AND BY END OF HIGHSCHOOL THE GUY HAS BANGED MOST OF THE GROUP.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922127)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:51 PM
Author: aggressive orchestra pit friendly grandma

SCHOLARSHIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922138)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

180 poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922154)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

brother, thoughts on this ballet thread?

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913145&mc=141&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922185)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

I wouldn't put a daughter I loved in it in a competitive group. For females, the toxicity there rivals XO, and not on age adjusted basis -- and they're 11. Maybe my son could join, if he had interest.

If we're talking about the random Suburb of Atlanta School of Dance and Waffles and or the Iowa City Studio of Everyone Gets a Trophy, that's fine, and a girl child can join. It's better than a lot of kid stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922291)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

Someone told me their 5'9", 155 lb daughter had a good shot at going 'professional' in ballet. Is this true? Isn't ballet super body conscious? (Like they want every woman to be 90 pounds, 5'3")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922315)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

LULNO

https://youtu.be/vv7nJtYXr_M?t=4s



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922362)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

LOL she looks like she's practicing discus throwing rather than dancing....barfs

The woman I am thinking of is not this fat, but is "chubby" and much larger boned than most ballet dancers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922363)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

Zero chance. Not .0000001. Zero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922391)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple

Apparently she tried out for a couple companies in the Pacific Northwest and got turned down for being "too tall" but her mother insists that she could have gone pro and that "taller women look much better as dancers than petite women"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922401)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:56 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

People like that can end up teaching at the Denton, TX School of Ballet and Steakhouse and performing in their local "professional" group for "pay" that's less than she invests.

She'll need a real job still, though that could be teaching.

Some people do get very good, then their body just doesn't work for it as they mature in their mid and late teens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922451)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:49 AM
Author: lemon halford

she's amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922433)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:19 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

In defnse of the ABT dancer being focused upon: though the fatty may look like she's doing the same turns better, the fatty is not en pointe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922542)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:03 AM
Author: shaky arousing national

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922223)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: lemon halford

1800000 scholarship. tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922317)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922321)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: lemon halford

xoxo balletpumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922359)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: Metal Vibrant Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922368)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922399)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: lemon halford

do you have a link to the rehearsal video?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922369)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

I have looked and cannot find it. Skimmed back two years on the twitter feed I thought it was on. Maybe it was deleted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922438)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: lemon halford

DESCRIBE in detail how you banged a group of ballet nubiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922376)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

There's not too much to say. I ran through about 6 of them in high school and for a few years after I quit. It was like a soap opera. I dated one for 18 months, or else that tally could have been higher.

Many of them put a ton of time into it, and it's most of their free time. By the end, I was the only guy my age left. There was one guy a few years older. Very hard to keep BALLETBROs in the game after 12-14. Everyone quits.

So by highschool it was me and this other guy and 30 girls of non-overweight BMI. Add in teenage hormones, and it was a catfight for the bros. There were probably only 1-2 that I couldn't have had instantly in the group if I displayed any interest.

That other guy is now a professional dancer with a great resume, but I don't want to out myself by listing his name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922436)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

I have a friend who was in the Corps of a prestigious European ballet...and of course she was dating a fellow dancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922441)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

Very common, and the ratio 15:1 ratio makes it extremely, almost boring levels of easy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922465)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: lilac pervert

Ungh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922448)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: lemon halford

180^180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922464)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:25 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

It's good that all happened when I was young and innocent and still figuring things out. Numbers otherwise would have been out of control.

Now I'm old and cynical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922558)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:47 AM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

How hard for Bro to go pro? It seems like there must be little competition but guys I see at Abt and nyc are insanely powerful and precise.

Granted I've never seen some fifth tier Tulsa ballet or whatever but I'd guess for men it's mostly about force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922616)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: Outnumbered hilarious parlour deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922440)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:58 AM
Author: lemon halford

180 ballet brother, how many fouettes can you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922456)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: Abusive Wild Mental Disorder Keepsake Machete

I don't know. I haven't danced in 15 years.

Even for guys who dance, this is less of a developed skill for men. The step is simply not written into classical ballet much for the guys. It's never a 32x repetition centerpiece. You'll maybe see one or two as transition steps.

Sometimes you need to lean into the lady move though:

https://youtu.be/tKMoteGoMaI?t=1m1s



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922510)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: Awkward shimmering cruise ship mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922505)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: disrespectful 180 factory reset button

Last paragraph blew my hair back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922589)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Zombie-like charismatic turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35924536)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: galvanic hunting ground

lmao 180 post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925942)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: lemon halford

here's her colleague's fouette turns. it's one of the best i've seen

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGiJV3enVUi/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35922511)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: laughsome citrine dopamine nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925828)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: histrionic bearded address psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925839)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

damn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925850)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: nudist pisswyrm

yes, but is she diverse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925860)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

Gillian Murphy is a non-white name (xo poa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35925883)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

she's not the best. she's outpacing the music because if she slows down to pace the music she won't maintain control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926216)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: lemon halford

(guy questioning the foettes of a principal at the american ballet theatre, one of the most prestigious rankings in all of ballet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926278)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

there are no prestigious american ballet companies anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926290)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life

what are the most prestigious ones? all in Russia/Europe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926306)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

all in russia. russian academies have extremely brutal selection and training processes. americans and western europeans are too soft to produce great ballerinas anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926376)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: lemon halford

ljl. there are only 2-3 prestigious ones in mother russia. bolshoi is probably the top in the world. the top russians actually go overseas too because there's more money. there are russians at ABT for example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926447)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: disturbing hairless bawdyhouse

i think you mean there are mariinsky rejects at ABT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926977)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: lemon halford

(guy who has no idea what he's talking about)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926334)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: Motley hell dog poop

itt: spinning rats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35926995)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Milky big giraffe

it's still only April and this has to be in the running for top 5 threads of the year. the only thing holding it back was the superabundance of quality thought, explanation, and reasoning. it's a throw-back to the pre-lolsuit days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#35927029)



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Date: May 15th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: dun greedy set faggotry

180 fouettes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#36057086)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 2:31 AM
Author: ruddy affirmative action lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#37761712)



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Date: February 19th, 2019 8:26 AM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

180 thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#37806870)



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Date: February 19th, 2019 10:06 AM
Author: slap-happy unhinged prole new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#37807226)



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Date: March 15th, 2020 11:42 PM
Author: slap-happy unhinged prole new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#39775824)



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Date: March 15th, 2020 11:57 PM
Author: Iridescent low-t trump supporter trailer park

sorry to be contrary here, but Misty is the best at what she does. she was placed where she is not because of technical skills but rather because of her race. that's what she brings to the table. blackness, not turns. that was the bargain. and she's killing it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#39775953)



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Date: November 17th, 2020 1:59 PM
Author: slap-happy unhinged prole new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#41383068)



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Date: November 17th, 2020 2:36 PM
Author: beady-eyed sick headpube

Where are we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#41383329)



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Date: March 12th, 2022 2:33 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#44136169)



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Date: April 4th, 2022 2:20 PM
Author: Ruby exciting chad

cb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#44276943)



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Date: April 4th, 2022 2:59 PM
Author: curious cowardly area love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959305&forum_id=2#44277268)