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Adults Are Terrorizing San Francisco On Tiny Electric Scooters

Adults Are Terrorizing San Francisco On Tiny Electric Scoote...
Insane milky shrine
  04/25/18
They just unleashed these in my town (similar to SF in terms...
laughsome base organic girlfriend
  04/25/18
this is going to be a nightmare. Those bikes are bad enough....
Judgmental Garrison
  04/25/18
hows seattle jjc
Insane milky shrine
  04/25/18
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Judgmental Garrison
  04/25/18
San Diego too and I see them abandoned at the side of the ro...
Snowy toaster dingle berry
  04/25/18
This is why I xo
thriller location
  04/25/18
http://www.mcclatchy-wires.com/incoming/60yc61/picture209167...
effete stead
  04/25/18
I hope russia hacks these scototers and scoots these fuckers...
Glittery plaza
  04/25/18
perfectly encapsulates silicon valley
aggressive boiling water
  04/25/18
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Sable preventive strike
  04/25/18
Who's insuring all this?
Supple Irate Bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
On some level, I’m sure you are.
180 lake digit ratio
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Insane milky shrine
  04/25/18
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vivacious heaven
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razzmatazz nighttime spot
  04/25/18
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self-centered potus voyeur
  05/03/18
tcq
opaque elite stage
  04/25/18
Seems incredibly dangerous. Hitting a pothole at 15mph on a ...
180 lake digit ratio
  04/25/18
Ehh they have suspensions and are very maneuverable. And the...
vengeful puppy
  04/25/18
Lol. Yeah, sure. They seem dangerous as fuck.
180 lake digit ratio
  04/25/18
Have you ever ridden one? They're not that dangerous. They d...
vengeful puppy
  04/25/18
It's SF, so I guess at least there are no children that coul...
Supple Irate Bawdyhouse
  04/25/18
or anyoen you would care about
Insane milky shrine
  04/25/18
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mint state weed whacker
  04/25/18
“All hell broke loose” after the scooters seemingly arrived ...
Frozen Slate Lay Liquid Oxygen
  04/25/18
This guy claims to have tripped over one and broken his toe,...
vengeful puppy
  04/25/18
lol what about homeless all hell breaking loose
vivacious heaven
  04/25/18
"Karen Fishkin, who sits on a local seniors’ organizati...
vivacious heaven
  04/25/18
"robots on the street" WTF
rebellious stimulating candlestick maker hall
  04/25/18
Rode one of these from Santa Monica to Venice to Hermosa. Wa...
Azure provocative resort coffee pot
  04/25/18
There are scooters all over DC now too.
flesh giraffe
  04/25/18
not sure which i hate more, the startup faggots responsible ...
razzmatazz nighttime spot
  04/25/18
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Violent Ticket Booth
  04/25/18
The riders.
Chartreuse kitty cat lodge
  04/25/18
i guess boosted boards require too much agility for SF dweeb...
Beady-eyed outnumbered institution sneaky criminal
  04/25/18
They have these in San Diego too. You'll get ticketed if you...
Indigo stirring tanning salon
  04/25/18
Smirking all the while.
Chartreuse kitty cat lodge
  04/25/18
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effete stead
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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Insane milky shrine

Adults Are Terrorizing San Francisco On Tiny Electric Scooters

In a compact city known for experimentation, popular electric-powered devices are injuring toes, starting fights, prompting debates over regulation; ‘Wild West situation’

By Eliot Brown

April 25, 2018 11:36 a.m. ET

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Ben Wolfson glanced up from his phone while walking in downtown San Francisco last week to see a woman whizzing toward him on what looked like a child’s kick scooter.

Easy rider

Easy rider

Only this one had an electric motor. “She was just barreling down” on the sidewalk, he said. Mr. Wolfson, 28 years old, jumped out of the way and shot her a “dirty look,” but said she didn’t react.

“She just had not a care in the world,” he said.

While the rest of the country is pondering the future of tech giants’ pervasive influence in our lives, here in the tech capital, a fiery debate has exploded over the pervasive presence of electric scooters.

Last month, a trio of well-funded startups began flooding the city with hundreds of electric for-rent scooters that can travel up to 15 miles an hour—starting at just $1 a ride. Riders pick them up and leave them most anywhere.

Electric scooters have become popular in San Francisco.

Electric scooters have become popular in San Francisco. PHOTO: JEFF CHIU/ASSOCIATED PRESS

The whimsical transit option has turned sidewalks into breeding grounds of conflict, pitting pedestrians against fans of cheap car-free transportation. In compact San Francisco, where a freewheeling culture often collides with anti-tech sentiment, scooters are joining an array of unconventional transportation from self-driving cars to electric unicycles.

“All hell broke loose” after the scooters seemingly arrived overnight in San Francisco, said the city’s supervisor, Aaron Peskin, who is spearheading legislation to regulate scooter-sharing programs. It is, he said, “a Wild West situation.”

One resident sent Mr. Peskin a photo of his bloodied toe—injured after tripping on a scooter tossed in front of his house. Hundreds of illegally parked scooters have been impounded, while others have ended up in trash cans and bodies of water.

The sidewalk rage is likely a preview of things to come across the nation given that one of the startups, Bird Rides Inc., just raised $100 million to bring scooters to 50 cities this year.

These aren’t mopeds. They are like children’s Razor scooters—with a platform attached to small wheels and a handlebar—but souped-up with electric motors. Because some riders say they feel more vulnerable on a small scooter than on a bicycle, and wear no helmet, they prefer to steer them on the sidewalks, even though riding them there is illegal.

Even self-professed fans bristle at riders who lack proper decorum. Daniel Singer, 18, an occasional scooter rider, said he was walking on a sidewalk, when he got into a face-off with three oncoming riders on scooters. He stared them down and gestured to the street. One rider grimaced, then moved off the sidewalk.

“It’s a nuisance for pedestrians,” he said.

Officials in San Francisco are trying to regulate scooter use.

Officials in San Francisco are trying to regulate scooter use. PHOTO: DAVID PAUL MORRIS/BLOOMBERG NEWS

Scooters, located and paid for with apps on phones, cost 15 cents a minute. There aren’t any designated drop-off points; riders just leave them when they’re done. The scooters have GPS, so at night, someone drives around, picks them up and recharges them for the next day.

Scooters sprawled in the middle of sidewalks have drawn ire among the aesthetically concerned. Stickers reading “HEY DUMB F—- GET OFF THE SIDEWALK” have appeared on some scooters, and city officials have impounded scores of illegally parked scooters blocking the use of sidewalks.

Travis VanderZanden, chief executive of Bird Rides, said “we weren’t quite sure what to expect” in terms of a public reaction in San Francisco. Bird and the other scooter companies say they instruct riders to stay off the sidewalk, park at the edge of the sidewalk and wear helmets. Bird offers to ship riders a free helmet.

Electric scooters impounded by the city of San Francisco.

Electric scooters impounded by the city of San Francisco. PHOTO: SAN FRANCISCO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS

The massive pileup of opinions spilled into City Hall last week, as angry residents faced off with scooter proponents during a lengthy hearing.

Karen Fishkin, who sits on a local seniors’ organization, took to the lectern to plea for regulation. ‘We’ve been down here to discuss with you Segway, robots on the street, and now scooters,” she said. “Pedestrians are kind of feeling like we’re getting left out in the cold.”

Happy riders seemed confused that people were so indignant about a small two-wheeled vehicle, noting they take cars off the road. Others said they see more trash on the city’s streets than scooters.

Andrew Lee said he used to enjoy riding a mini-Segway, but found it difficult to lug around. The day after he tried a rental scooter, “I gave away my Segway,” he said. Now he rides scooters daily.

Mr. Lee, 33, trekked to City Hall for the hearing, and zipped away on scooter.

Even before scootermania, a stroll through downtown reveals a combination of autonomous cars, electric skateboards, electric unicycles, electric-assisted bikes, and of course, the famous cable cars. The occasional Segway makes an appearance, while the fad of a few years ago, hoverboards, has mostly crashed and burned.

Scooters have joined an array of transportation options.

Scooters have joined an array of transportation options. PHOTO: DAVID PAUL MORRIS/BLOOMBERG NEWS

In the scooter skirmish, multiple sides are sparring. Pedestrian advocates are bickering with pro-transit residents. City officials, meanwhile, are upset the companies didn’t wait for them to write the rules.

The transit fracas kicked off last fall when Mr. VanderZanden’s company sprinkled scooters around Santa Monica, Calif., informing the Santa Monica mayor through a LinkedIn message. After a spat with city officials—including a criminal complaint from the city that was later settled—scooter-share is now legal there, and popular. A steady flow of riders today zip up and down the beachside sidewalk.

Mr. VanderZanden says Bird’s customers totaled 90,000 miles of scooter rides in the first three weeks in San Francisco.

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A walk around the city’s financial district reveals a constant stream of scooters. Riders weave in between pedestrians on sidewalks and stopped cars on streets during rush hour, and zip next to bikes in bike lanes—sometimes to the ire of bikers. Occasionally two riders are spotted crammed onto a small scooter.

The city’s solution for taming the Wild West? A permit program, where the city would grant companies the ability to rent out scooters, so long as they follow rules. City officials say they hope to have rules crafted next month.

For now, the fight goes on. The city has been scooping up parked scooters that block the sidewalk, which is illegal. The city impounded nearly 300 scooters last week, fining each company to pick them up, said Rachel Gordon, a spokeswoman for the city’s Department of Public Works.

“We just got mounting complaints,” she said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916834)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: laughsome base organic girlfriend

They just unleashed these in my town (similar to SF in terms of industry and culture) - I think they are like the rent-a-bikes but with scooters - they're fucking everywhere now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916940)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Judgmental Garrison

this is going to be a nightmare. Those bikes are bad enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916946)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Insane milky shrine

hows seattle jjc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917190)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Judgmental Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917199)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Snowy toaster dingle berry

San Diego too and I see them abandoned at the side of the road everywhere now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917261)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: thriller location

This is why I xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916947)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: effete stead

http://www.mcclatchy-wires.com/incoming/60yc61/picture209167639/alternates/FREE_768/Dockless_Scooters_San_Francisco_01479.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916952)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: Glittery plaza

I hope russia hacks these scototers and scoots these fuckers to Mexico

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35916972)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: aggressive boiling water

perfectly encapsulates silicon valley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917122)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: Sable preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917020)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Supple Irate Bawdyhouse

Who's insuring all this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917091)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: 180 lake digit ratio

On some level, I’m sure you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917106)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Insane milky shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917125)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: vivacious heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917272)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: razzmatazz nighttime spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35919768)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: self-centered potus voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35972558)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: opaque elite stage

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917170)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: 180 lake digit ratio

Seems incredibly dangerous. Hitting a pothole at 15mph on a scooter is gonna hurt like a motherfucker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917118)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: vengeful puppy

Ehh they have suspensions and are very maneuverable. And they should be driven in the bike lane where there typically aren't potholes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917240)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: 180 lake digit ratio

Lol. Yeah, sure. They seem dangerous as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917259)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: vengeful puppy

Have you ever ridden one? They're not that dangerous. They don't go THAT fast and they can be stopped very quickly. Putting aside visibility, a bicycle is probably more dangerous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917354)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Supple Irate Bawdyhouse

It's SF, so I guess at least there are no children that could get run over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917152)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Insane milky shrine

or anyoen you would care about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917189)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: mint state weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917315)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Frozen Slate Lay Liquid Oxygen

“All hell broke loose” after the scooters seemingly arrived overnight in San Francisco, said the city’s supervisor, Aaron Peskin, who is spearheading legislation to regulate scooter-sharing programs. It is, he said, “a Wild West situation.

Of course here comes daddy government to put up a bunch of red tape. For the time being just let it do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917197)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: vengeful puppy

This guy claims to have tripped over one and broken his toe, but it seems like Nancy Leong-level fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917249)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: vivacious heaven

lol

what about homeless all hell breaking loose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917253)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: vivacious heaven

"Karen Fishkin, who sits on a local seniors’ organization, took to the lectern to plea for regulation. ‘We’ve been down here to discuss with you Segway, robots on the street, and now scooters,” she said. “Pedestrians are kind of feeling like we’re getting left out in the cold.”"

lol, oldfucks love their rascal scooters (much bigger) and no one says shit to them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35917275)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: rebellious stimulating candlestick maker hall

"robots on the street"

WTF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35920150)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Azure provocative resort coffee pot

Rode one of these from Santa Monica to Venice to Hermosa. Was 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35919688)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: flesh giraffe

There are scooters all over DC now too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35919747)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: razzmatazz nighttime spot

not sure which i hate more, the startup faggots responsible for this or the government faggots trying to stop it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35919773)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Violent Ticket Booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35921655)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Chartreuse kitty cat lodge

The riders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35921789)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: Beady-eyed outnumbered institution sneaky criminal

i guess boosted boards require too much agility for SF dweebs. those things go even faster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35920186)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Indigo stirring tanning salon

They have these in San Diego too. You'll get ticketed if you ride one without a helmet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35920228)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: Chartreuse kitty cat lodge

Smirking all the while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35921381)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: effete stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959483&forum_id=2#35921385)