Shit was an instant turnoff and boner kill for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096509)

If this was third date, I actually think it is OK as long as there are not other warning signs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096570)

Meeting up with her again tonight, though reluctantly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096587)

My long term serious GF made me wait a month or some shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096612)

At the time I had probably fucked like 5 chicks in the past 2 months. And I was technically dating a different girl at the time who was temporarily out of town for a few months.

You separate PnD chicks from long term mates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096684)

Cut your losses and move on OP, how fucking dumb are you?

Such a lack of abundance mindset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097304)

Asking you to wait because she didn't ask other guys to wait is another thing.

She either wanted to emasculate or just has really poor judgment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36100245)

When Chad PnDed her, she was 100% OK with it.

It was when the Melvin PnDed her that she was traumatized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096816)

Probably just an average bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097427)

i think she probably really likes him and was trying to convey that, but she doesn't understand how that response plays in a man's head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096716)

That's a very sex-negative view

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097098)

Also, do so AFTER sleeping with her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36096723)

A truly good girl would not have let herself be pumped and dumped in the first place.

Realistically, in the future she'll be sleeping with Chad on the first date anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097579)

But that doesn't give her an excuse for treating you this way.

If you dump her after sleeping with her at this point, hopefully it will result in her mental circuitry getting rewired to think that Chads are willing to wait until five dates in for the sex. But if you do not sleep with her or dump her, she won't start accepting that you are Chad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097711)

XO complains about women being damaged sluts but then also does everything possible to create that kind of woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097710)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36099442)

These women may eventually right their ships and change their ways, but if you marry a woman in such a state, she will never change. Her only chance at happiness is understanding that men will not put up with her in her current form.

Do not feel bad for this woman. I've never met a woman like this who didn't do this to themselves. I would pity a woman who was dragged into the bushes and stranger raped; however, the women I've knew who something like this happened to were actually pretty chill and understood themselves to be a victim of a violent crime, no different than a regular assault victim, and have went on to have normal relationships. These "I've been hurt before" women tend to be highly unstable and unruly well before whatever happened. And let's face it, it was either regret-sex, an unexpected pump & dump, or some sort of public shaming such as internet photos, all of which she was a willing participant prior to her deciding later that it was not OK. EDIT: regardless of the truth of what I just wrote, her framing herself as a victim and your accepting her status as such is setting the stage for your relationship - she will continue to take liberties because she is entitled to do so because she's been hurt and you will continue to give because you're a nice guy and you want to help her. This is how you get a relationship based upon you giving and her taking. Her telling you what she did was her way of telling you that she is not considering a real relationship with you unless you are willing to subjugate yourself to her and her needs. 2nd EDIT: the travesty of all of this is that, if you do this, she will be miserable and hate you for bending to her will.

This is harsh stuff, but if you get caught up in the victim trap, you will never forgive yourself.

Also, not to be understated: do you know how to tell if a woman wants to have sex with you? She has sex with you. Do you want to know how to tell if a woman doesn't want to have sex with you? She declines to have sex with you. There is nothing more to this but lies and traps.

Short answer: GTFO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097292)

most normies live in irl society/culture where this is a normal part of our rotten supposed civilization. they're ok with whatevers "normal"--thats what being a normie means. 75 years ago they would have been "normies" who thought a girl engaging in pre-marital sex was a fallen woman and harlot going straight to hell after a life in the bordello.

You don't accept it just because it's normal so you should be true to yourself bc no arguments will make you feel better.

so basically, enjoy ISIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097305)

it's 50/50 bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097417)

European Christian civilization is a couple thousand years old. Here's something that's only been possible during this, our very own generation: recently, because I'm old and sometimes talk to prole chicks, I've been asked multiple times if I have any kids--AFTER theyve learned im not and never have been married. Historically, that's a very kooky thing to casually ask a single man and it indicates something the hell is going on with our society. But again, most people don't think about shit like that and wouldn't care to even if they were awared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097540)

you can't be attached to the idea of a perfect woman

you have to let go of that and dedicate your life to pursuing the best version of yourself

if you don't let go of that, you'll project that perfect image on to your partner and attempt to possess it, which we all eventually discover is impossible (for many reasons, one of which is that she has already been "possessed" to some extent by other men, and the part of you that wishes to possess her will always resent her for that)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097328)

Op is outed as a betacuck provider and will OF COURSE make efforts to win her over

Go 100% radio silent from reading this post on watch what happens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982812&forum_id=2#36097343)