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Is Spain still in a crisis

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boyish philosopher-king chapel
  05/27/18
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Gay hissy fit alpha
  05/27/18
No they killed enough Catalonians.
Blathering National Security Agency University
  05/27/18
what's interesting is how spain is one of the most peaceful ...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
Get real. Europe was a bloodbath throughout most of history...
Unhinged outnumbered den dragon
  05/27/18
you're talking about wars, which mesoamericans also had. i'...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
"One type of killing, butchering, and murdering of inno...
Unhinged outnumbered den dragon
  05/27/18
not sure what point you're trying to make. think of crime l...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
You don't understand my point because you're dense, just lik...
Unhinged outnumbered den dragon
  05/27/18
probably because the 60 IQ natives could only kill so many p...
maize pontificating plaza
  05/27/18
you're incoherent and missed the point entirely. spain has ...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
Many of these countries became independent in the 1800s, bef...
Unhinged outnumbered den dragon
  05/27/18
these are all, fundamentally, excuses. spain gave latin amer...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
yeah i am sure the spaniards followed those commandments whe...
boyish philosopher-king chapel
  05/27/18
very high IQ take
splenetic canary friendly grandma
  05/27/18
Tbd, Spaniards are so poor they dont have the money to eat a...
boyish philosopher-king chapel
  05/27/18
spain's (nominal) per capita income last year was $28,359, w...
avocado fortuitous meteor
  05/27/18
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smoky multi-colored house useless brakes
  05/27/18
Spain stole so much gold and silver from Mexico. What did th...
boyish philosopher-king chapel
  05/27/18
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smoky multi-colored house useless brakes
  05/27/18
They stole so much, it devalued it. Also, instead of develo...
cracking territorial marketing idea lay
  05/27/18
Lol spaniards
boyish philosopher-king chapel
  05/27/18


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Date: May 27th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: boyish philosopher-king chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136643)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Gay hissy fit alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136646)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Blathering National Security Agency University

No they killed enough Catalonians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136662)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

what's interesting is how spain is one of the most peaceful nations in europe, with a murder rate lower than germany, but its former colonies are some of the most vicious, violent places on earth. spanish values really didn't rub off on "the new world" that spain colonized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136684)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Unhinged outnumbered den dragon

Get real. Europe was a bloodbath throughout most of history. The deadliest wars throughout history have all been European or Chinese. Spain is peaceful now thanks to MAD and NATO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136698)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

you're talking about wars, which mesoamericans also had. i'm talking about day-to-day crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136705)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Unhinged outnumbered den dragon

"One type of killing, butchering, and murdering of innocents is better than the other!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136721)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

not sure what point you're trying to make. think of crime like blood pressure. if blood pressure spikes during a crisis, that's expected. if blood pressure is simply high in the background all the damn time, that's a problem. brazil (yes, i know, but portugal is pretty damn peaceful, too) had 60,000 murders last year, which is a lot more deaths than occur in many "real" wars. and over 10 years, that's over half-a-million dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136735)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Unhinged outnumbered den dragon

You don't understand my point because you're dense, just like most of the nazis on xo. In your original post, you were implying the only reason latin America is some violent place is because the Europeans aren't there when in fact, the only extremely deadly wars in South America involved Spainards trying to invade latin America. I don't exactly see pre-1500 America or post independence latin nations on this list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

This doesn't even get into the level of ethnic cleansing of the natives as well as bringing slaves from Africa and other gross violation of human rights...and you're pretending the only reason places in South America are violent is because "Europeans aren't there!"

Tl:dr - Trumptards are dumb as a brick, just like their leader



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136781)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: maize pontificating plaza

probably because the 60 IQ natives could only kill so many people with arrows and spears before intelligent beings came to the region.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136789)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

you're incoherent and missed the point entirely. spain has built a stable civil society which provides for a high degree of peace and security on a day-to-day basis. latin nations generally have not, even though they have spain's example to follow. this is a deficiency in latin america, and that deficiency gets a lot of people killed each year. bringing up wars is irrelevant unless you're making a specific argument that latin america is somehow discharging what would otherwise be warlike impulses via street-crime, which seems absurd. wars are generally driven by factors far beyond street-level social stability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136804)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Unhinged outnumbered den dragon

Many of these countries became independent in the 1800s, before Europe was some "enlightened, civilized peaceful society". Lol at thinking Spain was trying to spread some noble values. Why on earth would these nations take an example from Spain when they were just victims to slavery invasion, and ethnic cleansing just decades earlier? And how on earth is Spain's situation today and Latin America even remotely comparable? Where one nation is integrerated into the EU (which was burnt out from the world wars and wanted peace and now could do so under the protection of MAD and MATO) and Latin America (newly formed nations, little identity, non nuclear, and the target of foreign meddling by Soviet and American govs) today?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136866)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

these are all, fundamentally, excuses. spain gave latin america catholicism, whose commandments literally include "thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not murder." but latin parents do an extremely shitty job of transmitting these basic values to their own kids, with calamitous results. these are personal moral failings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136927)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: boyish philosopher-king chapel

yeah i am sure the spaniards followed those commandments when they stole the aztec's gold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136953)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: splenetic canary friendly grandma

very high IQ take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36137404)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: boyish philosopher-king chapel

Tbd, Spaniards are so poor they dont have the money to eat and because of that they dont have the energy to be violent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136704)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: avocado fortuitous meteor

spain's (nominal) per capita income last year was $28,359, which is in the global top 30. it's low for western europe, but by global standards, they're pretty rich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136713)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: smoky multi-colored house useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136790)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: boyish philosopher-king chapel

Spain stole so much gold and silver from Mexico. What did they do w it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136803)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: smoky multi-colored house useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36136833)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: cracking territorial marketing idea lay

They stole so much, it devalued it. Also, instead of developing industry or other sustainable businesses, the Spanish government became focused and wholly dependent on just getting MOAR goald-especially as the value declined. On top of that, Spain financed expensive war against Turks for Christianity while French cut deals and let Turks use their ports

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36137074)



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Date: May 27th, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: boyish philosopher-king chapel

Lol spaniards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3987782&forum_id=2#36137403)