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POTUS Trump: I have the absolute right to PARDON myself
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Date: June 4th, 2018 8:36 AM Author: aromatic incel https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1003616210922147841 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36179911) |
Date: June 4th, 2018 8:37 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive Lmao he is going to die in Leavenworth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36179915) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 8:38 AM Author: cracking useless rigor at least his sons will know exactly where he is at all times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36179919) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: passionate bright kitchen Underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182443) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: Lemon Cruel-hearted Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182951) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Curious learning disabled den (Addidon) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183176) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:22 AM Author: house-broken center jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185607) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Geriatric Theatre Absolutely devastating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186195) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:54 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond Haha wow holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186295) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: sick burgundy community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36187811) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: Citrine faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36198810) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Curious learning disabled den God Willing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183175) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:55 PM Author: Metal Background Story Half-breed Do you ever miss your dad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183253) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:41 AM Author: Nubile pearl principal's office mediation Will this be for saying pussy or calling ms-13 animals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186264) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182436) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: Purple sandwich The legal analysts who came to this conclusion should be disbarred. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182950) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:18 PM Author: submissive theater lib here but i don't think this is necessarily wrong. the constitution is set up such that potus would not need to pardon self for anything he does in his capacity as chief executive. so while a potus would never actually pardon self, the idea is the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182968) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:14 AM Author: mentally impaired station No. I agree that, while it's never been litigated, the impeachment process likely preempts indicting a sitting president. Pardoning oneself, however, would at the very least preclude prosecution after the presidency, which clearly can't be intended, and may even preclude impeachment, which is clearly not intended. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185589) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: Plum step-uncle's house hominid "...and may even preclude impeachment, which is clearly not intended."
Uhhh: "The President shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment."
That's unlimited (yes, including offenses he himself has committed), except that he specifically CANNOT preclude impeachment. |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: emerald french chef What did "pardon" mean way back when?
Limits can be found externally, but they can also be found in the word itself. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 7:04 AM Author: Azure bipolar pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36661351) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 2:50 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon its pretty obvious that this WAS intended. If they wanted to carve out something from the pardon power, they would have stated it in the constitution itself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185743) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: sick burgundy community account "may even preclude impeachment"
Jfc dude. |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: aromatic incel Just Overton window the judge via gaslighting, hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183170) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:13 AM Author: maroon lascivious gas station why doesn't the constitution specify impeachment, if he can't pardon himself for anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185584) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:17 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive I'd need to read through whatever Federalist Papers, if any, included a debate on this, but it's an academic issue because it would never reach SCOTUS; Congress would impeach and remove a president who tried to pardon himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185595) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:22 AM Author: mentally impaired station I wouldn't be so sure this GOP Congress would. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185604) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:25 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive Then they would get crushed in the next midterms and the next Congress would impeach and remove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185616) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: mentally impaired station Lol you have far more trust in the american electorate than I do (and apparently have completely forgotten about the last election) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185641) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:48 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive I have not forgotten about the last election. I am a Hillary-despising lib who voted for Gary Johnson and thought that HER was one of the only democrats who could lose to Trump. You were a big fan of HER, if I recall correctly, so I understand why you have retarded political instincts and think a POTUS could pardon himself and remain in office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185659) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: Plum step-uncle's house hominid The key thing is that a pardon makes the offense unprosecutable after impeachment, too. It can't be taken back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185654) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 3:50 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive How broadly can he phrase it? Just immunize himself entirely from criminal prosecution? Does he have to identify a specific crime he committed? Or just say "I hereby pardon myself for money laundering"? Can he pardon himself for crimes committed before he was POTUS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185799) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 4:17 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon look at the pardon Ford granted to Nixon:
“a full, free, and absolute pardon . . . for all offenses against the United States which he . . . has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.”
Looks like it can be broad as fuck hoss |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive So its limited to his conduct in office? That is narrow as fuck actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186164) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:24 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon This is about the lowest iq reading of this that I could imagine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186393) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive (1) its limited to his time in office--which, for Trump, eliminates the possibility of liability for some fairly serious shit but leaves him open to prosecution for any of the financial crimes he (and his privately held Russian Laundromats posing as real estate holding corps) committed in the preceding 3 decades
(2) he has to be pardoned by a successor (if we're going by the Nixon example you are citing)
(3) the scope of any pardon isn't just limited temporally; the words the successor uses in the document effectuating the pardon will also determine the substantive reach of he pardon; and
(4) you agree (see upthread) that this is an academic debate because the compromised stooge would be impeached and removed if he tried to pardon himself.
Any of that incorrect? |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 6:53 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon just because Ford's pardon was limited to Nixon's time in office doesnt mean that he couldn't have extended it even further back. and the breadth of the pardon given suggests that it can be broad as fuck and not specify any specific crimes.
also, just because nixon was pardoned by a successor doesnt mean that one cannot self pardon. the arguments for self pardon expressed in this thread are very strong, and the attempts to create a restrcition on the pardon power out of this air are unconvincing.
youre either being wilfully obtuse or seriously have trouble with logic, idk which
yes, i agree its academic, but trump still could pardon himself on his last day in office, as im sure he wouldnt care about his political future at that point |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive “yes, i agree its academic, but trump still could pardon himself on his last day in office, as im sure he wouldnt care about his political future at that point”
Lmfao. I guess prosecutors would just throw up their hands and courts would point to the “strong” arguments “in this thread” to decide this question that has literally never been litigated |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 2:53 AM Author: Grizzly mad cow disease Did you go to law school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36198878) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 2:51 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon of course, but that doesnt make the pardon ineffective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185745) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: emerald french chef Try it, for the lulz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36182958) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: aromatic incel Wouldn't it be malpractice to not express the most extreme vision of presidential pardon imaginable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183168) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:57 AM Author: Buff menage love of her life if trump is his own lawyer yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185676) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:45 PM Author: Curious learning disabled den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183181) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:46 PM Author: turquoise main people gaping He's not wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183189) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:10 AM Author: turquoise main people gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185580) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:17 AM Author: emerald french chef That's not clear to me. The word "pardon" virtually always refers to an act of forgiveness done for another's benefit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185594) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:30 AM Author: soggy vibrant national ape that is just assuming your conclusion.
like saying, the President has no authority to tax himself because taxation virtually always refers to taxing another person. |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:37 AM Author: mentally impaired station It's also in the same section and is right after the sentence about getting advice from officers not himself.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185638) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:47 AM Author: emerald french chef The president doesn't have authority to tax himself.
I would likely decide this based on the meaning of "pardon" at the time of the Constitution.
You got a good link to an old legal dictionary? |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Stubborn 180 Native So potus doesn’t pay taxes? If the IRS taxes him the he is taxing himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186190) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: arousing puppy nursing home no, the president doesn't have authority to tax anyone at all, that's the job of congress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36187631) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Scarlet Mexican Right, and in this case, the President of the United States would pardon Donald J Trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36187575) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: emerald french chef You seem to have a strange understanding of "another." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36201706) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: cerebral giraffe Abundantly obvious from the plain text of the constitution (and if you want to interpret some shit, it specifies not in cases of impeachment, so if they meant for other exclusions why not say so, it's not like this one was hard to imagine for founders worried about tyranny) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36183265) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:14 AM Author: maroon lascivious gas station cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185587) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:24 AM Author: mentally impaired station Maybe because the founders didn't draft the constitution like modern biglawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185613) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:00 PM Author: Clear Mother half the founding father were biglawyers bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36190818) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 2:52 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185747) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 6:18 PM Author: aromatic incel https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1003762763624312832 Chris Hayes tells the truth. |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Aqua swollen persian he states this like its some novel legal strategy - this is pretty clear from the structure of the constitution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36188525) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:16 AM Author: soggy vibrant national ape Hold on, the Constitution enumerates a single exception to the pardon power, an exception that applies to the President himself (impeachment) and libs want to read an unstated additional limitation that means that not only can he not pardon himself in case of impeachment, he can't pardon himself ever. We just didn't bother writing that last part because future libs will understand what we meant.
Of course he can pardon himself. He can pardon his son in law or daughter or former advisor. You can pardon people who are clearly guilty and people for which there can be no impartiality in granting the pardon. He can pardon his VP and then can resign and his former VP can pardon him.
What are libs going to do? Prosecute him anyway and then argue to the Supreme Court you can't pardon yourself because it just feels icky?
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:19 AM Author: mentally impaired station Arguably the founders didn't bother writing anything about it because they couldn't envision someone dumb enough to try it, given the other checks on govt, and given that the sentiment of the time was such that anyone who would try such a thing would likely have been hauled out of office and strung up on the spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185600) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:26 AM Author: soggy vibrant national ape Or maybe the better reading of the Constitution is we don't prosecute former Presidents for "crimes" while in office pursuant to the ordinary criminal justice system because that breeds political reprisals and abuses of power. Instead, if the President commits a crime, we just remove him from office. That is the check, not the threat of criminal prosecution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185620) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:29 AM Author: Cerise Mind-boggling Office Son Of Senegal correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185625) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:34 AM Author: mentally impaired station Trump isn't being prosecuted while in office... The DOJ doesn't even believe it has the power to indict a sitting president. This is a case being built for impeachment. The legislative branch is clearly utterly incapable of investigating this impartially. Does anyone even dispute that Mueller will do a far more impartial and thorough job than any hack committee in Congress? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185633) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: aromatic incel "The legislative branch is clearly utterly incapable of investigating this impartially." holy shit just ignore the constitution bro |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:40 AM Author: mentally impaired station The constitution also doesn't envision all these "rule making" legislative bodies under the executive branch yet here we are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185646) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:03 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond TDS has broken Lib brains. CS’s arguments ITT are a perfect example. He hates Trump so much that he is willing to take insane and extreme positions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186323) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:20 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive Do you think he can be prosecuted after leaving office for criminal acts committed before and after his term(s)? How particular do his pardons have to be, and can they prospectively and retroactively immunize him from criminal prosecution for any offenses? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185601) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:29 AM Author: Cerise Mind-boggling Office Son Of Senegal jfc wlmas you’re obsessed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36185623) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:18 AM Author: Buff menage love of her life are these supposed to be hard questions? bc they're not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186186) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:05 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond To him yes. AA is debilitating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186328) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:16 AM Author: Razzmatazz Demanding Chapel Remember when it looked like Hillary was going to win the election and the MEDIA suggested she pardon herself? Good times.
https://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/11/03/can-a-president-self-pardon/
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/does_presidents_pardon_authority_extend_to_a_self_pardon/
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/792065012974092288
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/01/will-hillary-clinton-be-impeached-over-emails-if-she-becomes-pre/ |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:18 AM Author: Buff menage love of her life JFC! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186187) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:31 AM Author: Geriatric Theatre This is fucking scholarship and deserves more attention. Did you find these links yourself? You're doing God's work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186228) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:39 AM Author: Razzmatazz Demanding Chapel Conservatives on Twitter and reddit have been posting the mediaite tweet so I did a search to see how many other articles there were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186261) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:46 AM Author: Geriatric Theatre 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186283) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:38 AM Author: stirring university roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186258) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Violet Cuck School Cafeteria What the fuck. Somebody needs to have Trump tweet these out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186266) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: Multi-colored federal pocket flask electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186730) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:43 AM Author: bearded abusive friendly grandma fucking LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186270) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: Nubile pearl principal's office mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186276) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:06 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond You should be nominated for a Presidential Medal of Freedom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186334) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:23 AM Author: Jet hospital personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186387) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:36 AM Author: Razzmatazz Demanding Chapel In addition to her pardoning herself, the media suggested (both before and after the election) that Obama pardon Hillary:
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/11/15/should-president-obama-pardon-hillary-clinton
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/would-obama-pardon-clinton-231120
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-13/why-obama-should-pardon-hillary-clinton
And believe it or not, they suggested TRUMP should pardon Hillary lmao
https://www.weeklystandard.com/michael-graham/why-donald-trump-should-pardon-hillary-clinton
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/14/politics/mukasey-on-comey-trump-cnntv/index.html |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:43 AM Author: Geriatric Theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186497) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 10:11 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186661) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon ROFL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186865) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 8:56 PM Author: Geriatric Theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36190787) |
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Date: June 6th, 2018 7:59 PM Author: Geriatric Theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36197008) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 2:02 AM Author: Citrine faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36198812) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 9:31 AM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond libs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36199481) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 9:04 AM Author: adulterous senate I'm sure the founders just forgot to exclude the right to self pardon or figured no POTUS would try to. After all, most of the constitution is unconcerned with separation and delineation of powers. The founders gave little to no thought on the proper restraints of executive power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186327) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 10:49 AM Author: Pink indian lodge regret are DC crimes considered federal law? Could Trump seriously shoot Comey in the oval office in broad daylight and then just pardon himself and suffer no consequences? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36186905) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: maroon lascivious gas station God damn I hope he tests that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36187130) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: ocher police squad He might be impeached in that case. Probably not though because it's Comey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36187760) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: sick burgundy community account Yeah, other than impeachment.
I like how you're assuming this is such an absurd situation. How many innocent U.S. servicemen did GWB murder in cold blood? |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: fiercely-loyal spot generalized bond Im opposed to the Iraq invasion, but lol @ this poast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36188397) |
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Date: June 7th, 2018 9:32 AM Author: Sooty tanning salon The president has a lot of power, he could do a lot of fucked up shit with only political consequences. That's the nature of our system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36199485) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 5:45 AM Author: Smoky Hyperactive Depressive Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3993286&forum_id=2#36661208) |