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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:18 PM Author: hyperventilating chrome station marketing idea
exactly. you are in a profession that actually could use and should use union protections.
my dad was a teamster.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234796)
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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: Ebony Office
no it's not real and hasn't been, with very (very very) little exception, since the 1970s or so.
corporate interests have done a really astounding job of turning people against unions in this country, to the point where most people are virulently against them and either can't articulate why or just claim they're full of "communists" and "thugs."
it's really amazing how effective this PR campaign has been.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237294) |
Date: June 12th, 2018 10:49 PM Author: clear whorehouse
American Litigators Federation
No trannies! They can blow GC and negotiate with management individually.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234952) |
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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: Hairless codepig
Uh, so you shouldn't need to be smart, take risks and work hard to expect a salary many times median real income?
Look at this chart: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
Unions have declined significantly during that time. Median personal income has gone up. Explain to me why all these sub 110iq people "deserve" $100k salaries because they joined some organized crime, er, labor group that essentially says "lovely factory, wouldn't want anything to happen to it, would ya?"
This BS is why US manufacturing collapsed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240165)
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Date: June 14th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Ebony Office
owners have capital and control over the business to use as leverage. employees have (or they may not have) the ability to band together and threaten a work stoppage as leverage.
i don't understand people's knee-jerk reaction to unions as bad, communist, etc. while they, at the same time, either have no issue with, or praise, employers getting the most out of their employees for the least amount of money (which is their right).
GC has run a fantastic PR campaign against unions.
and although TMF has tried to recast his negative comments about unions as stemming from their violent activity (which, again, is nil compared to what it was back in the day) it's pretty obvious that he just has a visceral negative reaction to labor unions generally - not just those that employ thug tactics or engage in corruption (again, a VERY small percentage).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244302) |
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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Ebony Office
this does not make sense. you do make more than most people, but that is completely irrelevant. unionized janitors make less - much, much less - than unionized nurses.
you are in-house at a company, right? i would venture a guess that you and your coworkers make "more or less standardized amounts." that is what you seem to be criticizing in your post. (incidentally, in the bargaining units i have in "intellectual" jobs, such as journalism and medicine, the employer generally has a clause allowing it to grant additional "merit" pay increases beyond what is called for in the CBA).
would you make more or have cheaper benefits if you had a union? nobody can say - all depends on whether your employer bargained hard and whether you and your coworkers were willing to use your leverage to get the employer to agree to your demands.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244347) |
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