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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
irradiated principal's office trump supporter
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
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irradiated principal's office trump supporter
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
Jet Electric Reading Party
  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
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Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
pearly wonderful state
  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
Overrated kitchen
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
pearly wonderful state
  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
exciting keepsake machete
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
ungodly mind-boggling incel toilet seat
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
Fuchsia Generalized Bond Pit
  06/17/18
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Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
unhinged canary becky
  06/15/18
These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
chestnut vigorous range
  06/15/18
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amber elastic band garrison
  06/15/18
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Submissive drunken background story kitty
  06/15/18
*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/15/18
Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/15/18
https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/15/18
Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
Crusty rebellious philosopher-king
  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/15/18
ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
chestnut vigorous range
  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage
  06/15/18
this X one million
amber elastic band garrison
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
Bistre bespoke roommate electric furnace
  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
Aphrodisiac dog poop love of her life
  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
Outnumbered Spot
  06/15/18
scramble your password
Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
amber elastic band garrison
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
pea-brained flatulent associate
  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
galvanic twinkling center
  06/15/18
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unhinged canary becky
  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
amber elastic band garrison
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
pearly wonderful state
  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage
  06/16/18
...
Garnet volcanic crater blood rage
  06/16/18


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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: irradiated principal's office trump supporter

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: irradiated principal's office trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Jet Electric Reading Party

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: pearly wonderful state

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Overrated kitchen

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: pearly wonderful state

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: exciting keepsake machete

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: ungodly mind-boggling incel toilet seat

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Fuchsia Generalized Bond Pit

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: unhinged canary becky

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: chestnut vigorous range

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: amber elastic band garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Submissive drunken background story kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Crusty rebellious philosopher-king

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: chestnut vigorous range

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: amber elastic band garrison

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Bistre bespoke roommate electric furnace

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac dog poop love of her life

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Outnumbered Spot

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Dark swashbuckling institution turdskin

scramble your password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: amber elastic band garrison

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: pea-brained flatulent associate

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: galvanic twinkling center

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: unhinged canary becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: amber elastic band garrison

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: pearly wonderful state

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: charismatic bearded pisswyrm theater stage

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Garnet volcanic crater blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)