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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
Swashbuckling mad cow disease
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
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Swashbuckling mad cow disease
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
medicated brindle trailer park therapy
  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
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Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
Flushed resort
  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
Rusted wild lettuce queen of the night
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
Flushed resort
  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
godawful gunner mediation
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
Copper startling ticket booth community account
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
Garnet toaster point
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
pink misunderstood windowlicker library
  06/17/18
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godawful gunner mediation
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
Bonkers kitty
  06/15/18
These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
Motley gold death wish
  06/15/18
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chartreuse contagious regret locale
  06/15/18
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splenetic shrine cuck
  06/15/18
*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
  06/15/18
Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
godawful gunner mediation
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
  06/15/18
https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
godawful gunner mediation
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
  06/15/18
Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
Sable People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
  06/15/18
ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
Motley gold death wish
  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested
  06/15/18
this X one million
chartreuse contagious regret locale
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
Titillating pistol plaza
  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
vigorous meetinghouse
  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
Sepia area
  06/15/18
scramble your password
godawful gunner mediation
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
chartreuse contagious regret locale
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
iridescent gaped stage
  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
Fiercely-loyal stag film
  06/15/18
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Bonkers kitty
  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
chartreuse contagious regret locale
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
Flushed resort
  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested
  06/16/18
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Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: Swashbuckling mad cow disease

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Swashbuckling mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: medicated brindle trailer park therapy

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Flushed resort

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Rusted wild lettuce queen of the night

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Flushed resort

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: godawful gunner mediation

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Copper startling ticket booth community account

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Garnet toaster point

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: pink misunderstood windowlicker library

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: godawful gunner mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Bonkers kitty

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Motley gold death wish

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious regret locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: splenetic shrine cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: godawful gunner mediation

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: godawful gunner mediation

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Sable People Who Are Hurt

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Motley gold death wish

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious regret locale

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Titillating pistol plaza

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: vigorous meetinghouse

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Sepia area

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: godawful gunner mediation

scramble your password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious regret locale

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: iridescent gaped stage

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal stag film

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Bonkers kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious regret locale

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Flushed resort

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: beady-eyed henna striped hyena idea he suggested

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)