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ACLU Will Weigh Effect on Marginalized Communities in Free-Speech Cases

These are the new "Civil Liberties": https://www.t...
talented quadroon
  06/23/18
kill whitey
Poppy Beady-eyed Stage
  06/23/18
Ljl cartoon world
soul-stirring gas station
  06/23/18
"When it comes to the First Amendment, we're no longer ...
Hairraiser lake range place of business
  06/23/18
Is there a name for a phenomenon where every advocacy organi...
Brass slimy senate reading party
  06/23/18
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/664089892599631872
Chartreuse forum
  06/23/18
Wish I could say this will hurt their fundraising but it won...
Blue mischievous state
  06/23/18
To be fair, Comprehensive list of all "non-marginali...
Curious Smoky Native Clown
  06/23/18
The committee was chaired by David Cole (National Legal Dire...
Chartreuse forum
  06/23/18
Louise Melling arguing that expressive photographers must co...
Chartreuse forum
  06/23/18
Reminder: the ACLU represented the KKK on free speech ground...
laughsome unhinged jewess
  06/23/18


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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: talented quadroon

These are the new "Civil Liberties": https://www.thedailybeast.com/memo-aclu-will-weigh-effect-on-marginalized-communities-in-free-speech-cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295806)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: Poppy Beady-eyed Stage

kill whitey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295809)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: soul-stirring gas station

Ljl cartoon world

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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Hairraiser lake range place of business

"When it comes to the First Amendment, we're no longer going to take the tough cases that require us to make a principled stand in defense of speech."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295815)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Brass slimy senate reading party

Is there a name for a phenomenon where every advocacy organization eventually gets cucked and co-opted by the opposition?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295821)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Chartreuse forum

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/664089892599631872

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295826)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Blue mischievous state

Wish I could say this will hurt their fundraising but it won't-- it will help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295833)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Curious Smoky Native Clown

To be fair,

Comprehensive list of all "non-marginalized" communities:

-- White straight males (NOTE: White women of any and all gender and sexual identities are highly marginalized)

-- Christians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295839)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Chartreuse forum

The committee was chaired by David Cole (National Legal Director), and included Jennifer Bellamy (Legislative Counsel, National Political Advocacy Department), Nusrat Choudhury (Senior Staff Attorney, Racial Justice Project), Louise Melling (Director, Center for Liberty), Dennis Parker (Project Director, Racial Justice Project), Jeff Robinson (Director, Trone Center for Justice and Equality),Lee Rowland (Senior Staff Attorney, Speech, Privacy and Technology), Terry Tang (Director of Publications and Editorial, Communications), Cecillia Wang (Director, Center for Democracy), and Mohammad Zaidi (Director of Gift Planning and Special Campaigns, Development) from the National office, and affiliate legal directors Nancy Abudu (FL), Emily Chiang (WA), Jamie Crofts (W-Va), David Loy (San Diego), Leslie Mehta (VA), and Andre Segura (TX). (Leslie Mehta left the ACLU before the committee’s work was completed, but made valuable contributions to the process before leaving.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295867)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Chartreuse forum

Louise Melling arguing that expressive photographers must concede free speech rights when they involve lesbians and gays.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/us/weighing-free-speech-in-refusal-to-photograph-ceremony.html

There are constitutional values on both sides of the case: the couple’s right to equal treatment and Ms. Huguenin’s right to free speech. I asked Louise Melling, a lawyer at the American Civil Liberties Union, which has a distinguished history of championing free speech, how the group had evaluated the case.

Ms. Melling said the evaluation had required difficult choices. Photography is expression protected by the Constitution, she said, and Ms. Huguenin acted from “heartfelt convictions.”

But the equal treatment of gay couples is more important than the free speech rights of commercial photographers, she said, explaining why the A.C.L.U. filed a brief in the New Mexico Supreme Court supporting the couple.

“This is a business,” Ms. Melling said. “At the end of the day, it sells services for photographing weddings. This is like putting up a sign that says ‘Heterosexual Couples Only.’ ”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295889)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: laughsome unhinged jewess

Reminder: the ACLU represented the KKK on free speech grounds in Brandenburg v. Ohio.

When you openly concede that you are only willing to represent the opinion of certain groups, I think that hurts free speech, not helps it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4008627&forum_id=2#36295926)