https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhmaRuxuT8&ebc=ANyPxKqJWqI8U4lxj1h9sJ33bDhkF0pFRAWqOlAQ7aHBNw-dv7KdPqO-doJbdPDIrF0K2fl6jfq9jYT5QwsBVuN_u11FjB2hYQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36387906)

and considering the Budapest memorandum it’s more correct to say that russia’s Signature on a document is what’s really meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391543)

I would say that the Budapest memo was basically Russia being coerced into signing a treaty at the moment of greatest weakness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391580)

Russia doing something at a moment of weakness: bad

listen just cuz your country is a fucktarded basketcase doesn’t mean we have to acquiesce to your violent bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391600)

"listen just cuz your country is a fucktarded basketcase doesn’t mean we have to acquiesce to your violent bullshit"

No one has to do anything, but there are smart things to do and dumb things to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391638)

In 1783, Crimea became a part of the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774). Following the Russian Revolution of 1917, Crimea became an autonomous republic within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic in the USSR. During World War II, Crimea was downgraded to the Crimean Oblast and then, in 1954, it was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.[3]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388017)

i dont really care and certainly wouldn't be in favor of a US intervention or antything but if I'm asked to say whether it was right or wrong or if as a policy we should acquiesce to military invasions and a lack of respect for internationally acknowledged blrders, my answer is it was wronf and countries should not fear invasion based on a historical justification ex post facto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388061)

I think Ukrainian nationalism is generally retarded, but I understand that other than Crimea and a few places like Donbass, most of Ukraine doesn't want to become a part of Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388165)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388206)

"It had nothing to do with realizing the will of the crimean people and everything to do with retaliating against ukraine for wanting to adopt pro-west policies."

Not mutually exclusive. Pro-Western and anti-Russian isn't automatically good and popular. In Crimea it obviously wasn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388625)

You have an allegiance to russia so your view is skewed. if the Spaniards tried to reclaim florida with the acquiescence of the Floridians, I doubt you'd see it the same way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36389001)

And you have ties to Ukraine and are against Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36389128)

Keep up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388898)

so glad you two retards wont be breeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391037)

2. We probably are. Sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391494)

Date: July 8th, 2018 11:03 PM

Author: solace and wallace

No. Germans should retake Kaliningrad and see what these Ruskie fucks have to say about historical ownership and territorial rights then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391594)

but because you support Russian interests you feel it’s totally fine to threaten nuclear war over a simple irredentist act (well also because you’re a mongol)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391632)

EDIT: Also Crimea. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-deploying-tactical-nuclear-arms-in-crimea/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391724)

literally everything russia wants, we should want the opposite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36388979)

and they have nothing to offer us that would make us change our minds short of denuclearizing (which will never happen)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36390946)

this is completely wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391013)

- lots of things to be traded in syria

- russian support for iran can be traded

- trade with russia as a counter to trade with china can be traded

- lots of stuff around oil can be traded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391110)

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391124)

Ukraine is massively flawed but nobody denies it’s a democracy. Maidan was a great democratic act that Russians don’t have the brains or balls to pull off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391581)

It is such a wonderful democracy that saying a bunch of various shit or having banned books or movies or visiting the wrong place will land you in a jail cell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391621)

Until the US sabotaged the will of the people there

Are u really this fucking retarded to ignore chain of events and have ZERO perspective?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391695)

the people held massive protests and the former president ran away along with his imported Praetorian guard. lord know the US public would be well within its rights to do the same if governed by illegitimate criminals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391712)

Being there means you have less access to non-propaganda information streams.

Speaking of, Ulkraine actually did intervene in our elections in a BIG way for Hillary. The Russian Facebook ads are comparatively tiny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391739)

I don’t speak Ukrainian or watch local news.

I’m aware of the Ukrainian interference, but like the Russian interference it doesn’t surprise me because everyone is doing it across the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391960)

I’m actually a Russophile, but I wanted what was best for Russia I would pretty much do the opposite of everything they have done for the last 5 years. the country is becoming very reactionary, which just means that the country will be repeating its history very soon. it all could have been avoided, but dimwitted Russians like you have sealed their fate. will be sad to see the Chinese eat your lunch (not to mention the southern problem getting worse) while you diddled around in shitty little Crimea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391988)

Except that it isn't. Ukraine is bleeding money and people. This isn't to say they should have been "anti-Western" either. Just taken a smart middle road, which is what Yanukovich was attempting to do before yet another ridiculous color revolution. The disastrous results (which would be significantly worse but for handouts and loans that they have no ability to repay) are ignored in the name of Ukrainian nationalism. It is totally and utterly absurd.

"I’m actually a Russophile, but I wanted what was best for Russia I would pretty much do the opposite of everything they have done for the last 5 years"

Totally disagree. Russia is doing what it has to. IRL, it should never have been put in this position.

"the country is becoming very reactionary, which just means that the country will be repeating its history very soon"

I actually agree with the first part. But if they weren't provoked and the reactionary response wasn't triggered, then everyone would be better off. The second - I'm not sure what you think Russia is going to do. Assuming no one does anything else, I don't think they have some grand plan.

"it all could have been avoided, but dimwitted Russians like you have sealed their fate"

It could have been avoided by the West not supporting Chechnya, Georgia, Ukrainian nationalists, Syrian "moderate Islamist rebels" and adding former Soviet territories as NATO members.

"will be sad to see the Chinese eat your lunch"

Russia and China have a mutually beneficial relationship and they realize that there's pressure on both of them.

"not to mention the southern problem getting worse"

It has actually gotten better.

"while you diddled around in shitty little Crimea"

Russia simultaneously won in Crimea, E. Ukraine and Syria. All 3 conflicts have calmed down and nothing bad happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36392132)

Cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4020912&forum_id=2#36391993)