\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Anyone regret their lateral move?

...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
Curious about stories where you left within 1 year because t...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
happens all the time. most laterals are on the way out the d...
Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/12/18
fuck’s sake
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
...
Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/12/18
I want to leave to get a fresh start. I used to be a great a...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
"Fresh starts" don't normally work. You are who yo...
wine hideous parlor
  07/12/18
cr. law is ONE WRONG MOVE. no fresh starts
Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/12/18
You don’t think it’s feasible to turn things around by, eg, ...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
You either have the passion for the practice of law in you o...
Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate
  07/13/18
...
purple aphrodisiac chapel
  07/13/18
...
Sadistic umber hominid locale
  07/13/18
...
Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/17/18
...
Floppy wagecucks
  07/17/18
...
disturbing turquoise box office
  07/18/18
gas yourself
histrionic canary orchestra pit
  07/12/18
mods
Pearl brethren
  07/12/18
I cant imagine nit regretting a decision
self-absorbed pisswyrm property
  07/12/18
i regret my inhouse move more than my lateral move. at my s...
Rose passionate police squad
  07/12/18
The gravy train ends eventually
bespoke insane temple
  07/12/18
Why’d you regret in-house? Yes I’ve learned there’s a pri...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
What’s the price
bespoke insane temple
  07/12/18
You don’t learn anything. I do want to grow as a profess...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/12/18
This is exactly why I left my firm. I liked the people but w...
Glassy razzle nursing home
  07/17/18
big paycut for what are ultimately the same hours more or le...
Rose passionate police squad
  07/13/18
...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/13/18
yeah, in retrospect, I should've kept it that fumble cost u...
Embarrassed To The Bone Titillating Base Sandwich
  07/12/18
Kind of. Lateraling is difficult. Not the interviews, but ...
Blathering love of her life
  07/12/18
It’s 180 if you just want to skate through biglaw. Who the f...
bespoke insane temple
  07/12/18
No one, but you have to stick around long enough to land som...
Blathering love of her life
  07/12/18
...
Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/12/18
...
Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate
  07/17/18
I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
Arrogant forum
  07/13/18
Apparently firms ask you for your previous year’s billables ...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/17/18
“Sure, no problem: I billed 8,760 hours last year. Thanks.”
Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate
  07/17/18
run!
Pontificating gold rehab
  07/17/18
...
Pearl brethren
  07/17/18
Srsly...is this normal?
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/17/18
I’ve heard it once or twice during the height of ite. Seems ...
Pontificating gold rehab
  07/18/18
recruiter I'm working with says it's normal. seems like bul...
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/18/18
All of the above plus none of the associates who have been w...
Racy violent genital piercing
  07/17/18
50 places higher! “You’re my Bumble 5, sugar, baby.”
Beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  07/17/18


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412534)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

Curious about stories where you left within 1 year because the fit ended up being so poor. This is my biggest worry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412544)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness

happens all the time. most laterals are on the way out the door at their old firms, otherwise why would they leave? so they're kinda desperate or not that good associates in the first place or dont like the shitty job and dont work that hard... and there's more pressure as a lateral unless they get dropped into a big group w/ no accountability, and they flame out pretty quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412573)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

fuck’s sake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415475)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415491)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

I want to leave to get a fresh start. I used to be a great associate but completely fell apart after breaking up with the LTR that brought me to the city. Fell into a typical downward spiral for about a year or so after that that hasn’t really stopped. Started drinking alone. Performing poorly at work. Losing trust / damaging work relationships. Avoidance. More drinking to cope. I want to just tell someone that I’m all fucked up and need a legit sabbatical or something, but I’ve got $110k in loans left to pay down so I’ve continued limping along to collect my paycheck. But it feels wrong. I don’t like the feeling of “coasting.” I didn’t work this hard to get here just to be a cynical, depressed parasite.

Anyway. Hoping a clean slate will provide the kindling to get my motivation back. Will really suck to be wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415716)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: wine hideous parlor

"Fresh starts" don't normally work. You are who you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415784)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness

cr. law is ONE WRONG MOVE. no fresh starts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415802)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

You don’t think it’s feasible to turn things around by, eg, lateraling to low COL home city where all your friends and family are? Maybe you’re right, but I guess I’m more optimistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415839)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate

You either have the passion for the practice of law in you or you don't. It's not something that's situational or contextual. There's a fundamental fiber in the universe that is either in or not in all of us. Some people only have it as a faint presence--they might sense a potential statutory inconsistency as they read the morning daily news, or muse about, for a passing moment, whether a new city regulation was artfully drafted or not. Those people are law sensitive but, at least without training, not truly of the law. Others have law levels so highly charged that, almost despite themselves, their minds are attuned to the scholarship and art of the law from the earliest of ages. Even in their raw form, such individuals are legal forces to be reckoned with. With training, they might rise to the level of being asked to join a deal team or strike force under the auspices of the legal order, assuming they can find a partner mentor to apprentice them. It is important to remember, however, that simply because one's legal level is high does not guarantee that that innate talent will be put to a good end. There are some in the world who are possessed with extraordinary levels of jurisprudential potency but who have chosen to direct that strength toward evil ends. The temptation toward this befouled relationship with the law grows stronger over time in the absence of proper training and discipline. These dark lawyers would, unimpeded, threaten the order of the world that we hold so dear. Thankfully, there are those other forces of legal good in the world, ancient and honed orders, who stand opposed to them, and so maintain the intrinsic balance of things. Tradition says that one day a young associate will arrive who will alter this balance and allow the good men of the law to once and for all prevail, bringing order to chaos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419744)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: purple aphrodisiac chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419801)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Sadistic umber hominid locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419808)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36445681)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 11:31 PM
Author: Floppy wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449401)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 18th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: disturbing turquoise box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449595)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: histrionic canary orchestra pit

gas yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415940)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: Pearl brethren

mods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415959)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: self-absorbed pisswyrm property

I cant imagine nit regretting a decision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412675)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Rose passionate police squad

i regret my inhouse move more than my lateral move. at my second firm i got away with murder because i worked for one aspie senior associate who inherited a book from a retiring rainmaker but he did almost everything himself in order to get hours up during his candidacy for partnership, then i recruited 2 URM juniors who did anything i said to show he could "build a practice". I billed <1k hours/yr for 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36412707)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: bespoke insane temple

The gravy train ends eventually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415513)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

Why’d you regret in-house?

Yes I’ve learned there’s a price to coasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415568)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: bespoke insane temple

What’s the price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415573)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

You don’t learn anything.

I do want to grow as a professional with actual skills / competencies; I just can’t stand big law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415596)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Glassy razzle nursing home

This is exactly why I left my firm. I liked the people but woke up one day as a fourth year and realized I had no idea how to actually be a lawyer. No arguing in court, barely any substantive filings, not even any depo experience. After a while, coasting for the paycheck doesn’t make up for the fact that you’re nothing more than a meaningless cog in the billing machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449143)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Rose passionate police squad

big paycut for what are ultimately the same hours more or less as my last firm.

you're right that you don't learn much substantively when coasting but most of it's flame anyway and you'll learn by doing on your next job, so long as you can sell your way through the interview with enough buzzwords and anecdotes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419794)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36421198)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Titillating Base Sandwich

yeah, in retrospect, I should've kept it

that fumble cost us the game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415506)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: Blathering love of her life

Kind of. Lateraling is difficult. Not the interviews, but integrating and sticking around. So much so that I’d caution against it unless you’re getting pushed out or are switching practice groups / locations / something similar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415755)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:42 PM
Author: bespoke insane temple

It’s 180 if you just want to skate through biglaw. Who the fuck wants to stick around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415767)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: Blathering love of her life

No one, but you have to stick around long enough to land somewhere good. Lateraling after 2 years and flaming out at your second firm in under a year is a good way to fuck everything up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415787)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Cerebral Submissive Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36415806)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36445668)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Arrogant forum

I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36419938)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

Apparently firms ask you for your previous year’s billables when lateraling? Is this typical?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449046)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Hyperactive Motley Cruise Ship Roommate

“Sure, no problem: I billed 8,760 hours last year. Thanks.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449055)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: Pontificating gold rehab

run!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449159)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Pearl brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449200)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

Srsly...is this normal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449361)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 18th, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: Pontificating gold rehab

I’ve heard it once or twice during the height of ite. Seems like a place with shit culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449564)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 18th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

recruiter I'm working with says it's normal. seems like bullshit. o well. thanks for the input.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449573)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: Racy violent genital piercing

All of the above plus none of the associates who have been with the firm since day 1 want to see you there. Why should they as they have carefully cultivated relationships with partners, worked their asses off, and then you show up from a firm ranked 10 places higher and are being taken out to lunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449173)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

50 places higher!

“You’re my Bumble 5, sugar, baby.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024085&forum_id=2#36449360)