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How do choose NYC firms

Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? ...
tan vibrant space digit ratio
  07/17/18
I almost teared up at this poa. Hearkens back to a simple...
Stubborn supple associate
  07/17/18
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vermilion hateful stock car area
  07/17/18
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tan vibrant space digit ratio
  07/17/18
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claret pervert
  07/18/18
choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms....
embarrassed to the bone turdskin set
  07/17/18
Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing? It does seem they...
Stubborn supple associate
  07/17/18
Those other four besides wachtell are all peers
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/17/18
(Skadden associate)
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
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claret pervert
  07/18/18
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Light 180 Point
  07/18/18
Is Cravath not impressive anymore?
tan vibrant space digit ratio
  07/17/18
No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people ...
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/17/18
Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke...
tan vibrant space digit ratio
  07/17/18
Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long ...
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/17/18
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tan vibrant space digit ratio
  07/17/18
cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers
Nubile Bossy Idiot Principal's Office
  07/17/18
You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to ...
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones wit...
floppy flushed gaming laptop indirect expression
  07/17/18
Absolutely Devastating
Stubborn supple associate
  07/17/18
That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/17/18
Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still...
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewher...
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/17/18
Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. ...
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I...
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
(dumbass)
floppy flushed gaming laptop indirect expression
  07/17/18
(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly
embarrassed to the bone turdskin set
  07/17/18
On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the N...
Burgundy ungodly psychic
  07/17/18
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Yellow house
  07/17/18
I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you ...
Excitant underhanded patrolman
  07/17/18
What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working...
very tactful haunting stead friendly grandma
  07/17/18
cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicabl...
Nubile Bossy Idiot Principal's Office
  07/18/18
cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays
cheese-eating big national cuckold
  07/18/18
You mean the male secretaries ?
Pearly crackhouse preventive strike
  07/18/18


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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: tan vibrant space digit ratio

Is Cravath worth it?

Wachtell or some other above market?

What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc

Everything seems awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: Stubborn supple associate

I almost teared up at this poa.

Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: vermilion hateful stock car area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: tan vibrant space digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: claret pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone turdskin set

choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Stubborn supple associate

Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?

It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447354)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

Those other four besides wachtell are all peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

(Skadden associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: claret pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Light 180 Point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: tan vibrant space digit ratio

Is Cravath not impressive anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: tan vibrant space digit ratio

Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: tan vibrant space digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Nubile Bossy Idiot Principal's Office

cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: floppy flushed gaming laptop indirect expression

except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: Stubborn supple associate

Absolutely Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.

I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447558)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.

The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.

Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.

Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448507)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: floppy flushed gaming laptop indirect expression

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone turdskin set

Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: Burgundy ungodly psychic

On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Yellow house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Excitant underhanded patrolman

I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: very tactful haunting stead friendly grandma

What are your goals?

Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?

I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.

Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.

Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Nubile Bossy Idiot Principal's Office

cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: cheese-eating big national cuckold

cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Pearly crackhouse preventive strike

You mean the male secretaries ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792)