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mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
180 redaction-fu
hyperactive legend
  07/17/18
Hah, yup.
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
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180
olive bearded public bath
  07/17/18
Money out there
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curious shrine people who are hurt
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Underhanded garnet locus doctorate
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Very tactful razzle-dazzle forum masturbator
  07/18/18
180
cream wrinkle police squad
  07/17/18
180
carnelian titillating institution pozpig
  07/17/18
...
aquamarine excitant crackhouse
  07/17/18
Rot in hell
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/17/18
Sorry, brother. I don't want you to be unhappy.
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
Why would you tell a 180 poaster this?
cream wrinkle police squad
  07/17/18
lol faggot cslg is 180 and has helped a bunch of bros on thi...
olive bearded public bath
  07/17/18
Yeah man! frivolous lawsuits are awesome, really good for so...
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/17/18
uninsured illegal beaners are causing rates to go up
carnelian titillating institution pozpig
  07/17/18
They can rot in hell too
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/17/18
rules of the game bro don't hate the player
olive bearded public bath
  07/17/18
...
wild vivacious mediation pocket flask
  07/17/18
...
Cracking Buff Shitlib
  07/17/18
Oh alright, I guess it's ok then
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/17/18
U mirin?
Green Talented Toilet Seat
  07/18/18
You are a retard
Blathering wagecucks sweet tailpipe
  07/17/18
Isn't this stuff the equivalent of a Boomer doctor bragging ...
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/18/18
If it weren't for CSLG, Chandler would be homeless.
Demanding big-titted community account temple
  07/18/18
and his wife wouldn't have enough food
Yapping territorial goal in life black woman
  07/18/18
no
Laughsome sanctuary sound barrier
  07/18/18
? Explain this rent seeking behavior
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/18/18
You're right, it's a total travesty what's being done to the...
Demanding big-titted community account temple
  07/18/18
You're required by law to have insurance, this raises their ...
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/18/18
U: bitter balding risk averse dork slaving away for a boss ...
indigo odious therapy theater
  07/18/18
I have a full head of hair, but I am irate that my premium ...
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/18/18
looks like he already sought the rent, found it, and it's co...
indigo odious therapy theater
  07/18/18
You got that right! Enjoy hell
Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea
  07/18/18
(guy paying rent instead of receiving it)
indigo odious therapy theater
  07/18/18
These lawsuits aren't frivolous. A tort was committed.
Demanding big-titted community account temple
  07/18/18
...
orange contagious gas station
  07/17/18
FYI - block out the full zip code, unless the law firm it's ...
irradiated feces
  07/17/18
His website and yelp has all the same pictures he's posted h...
Demanding big-titted community account temple
  07/18/18
Thoughts on my website?
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/18/18
You like how I bought all my staff law firm shirts that were...
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/18/18
Yeah, it’s hilarious how low rent your practice is compared ...
Demanding big-titted community account temple
  07/18/18
It only costs a couple grand to do a nice website, a photo s...
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/18/18
oh no! he might get outed and lose his job!
indigo odious therapy theater
  07/18/18
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Demanding big-titted community account temple
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Underhanded garnet locus doctorate
  07/18/18
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mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/18/18
holy shit! describe how maf the adjuster was on the phone...
fragrant state
  07/17/18
Adjuster was chill and friendly. We talked about our toddler...
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
got a case where driver 1 has $500k property (not umbrella, ...
fragrant state
  07/17/18
Something seems odd based on what you are telling me. There ...
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
i don't. but tsinah has one of my email addresses and i talk...
fragrant state
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...
aquamarine excitant crackhouse
  07/17/18
Im writing a book. Just very slowly.
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/17/18
CR what about? I think you have a 180 future as a self-he...
Cracking Buff Shitlib
  07/17/18
*poasters telling people NOT to go to law school*
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  07/17/18
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Trip pearl range
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carnelian titillating institution pozpig
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olive bearded public bath
  07/18/18
fuck, i need to hit you up already. sturggling out here
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  07/18/18
Email me and I'm happy to talk to you about what you need to...
mustard adulterous haunted graveyard
  07/18/18
nice clip man. 180
indigo odious therapy theater
  07/18/18
This is fucking insane. I'm gonna leave my firm and come sle...
confused tan national
  07/18/18
Like the hordes in Mother! storming through his house.
Hideous bateful base
  07/18/18
CREAM
Pearly Theater Stage
  07/18/18
Happy for you bra
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  07/18/18
180million
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TY
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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

https://imgur.com/a/IJyJZ8j

One accident was a sideswipe with 3k in damage. The other had $900 in damage and was a rear end accident.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447818)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: hyperactive legend

180 redaction-fu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36449230)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:58 AM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Hah, yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450652)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: olive bearded public bath

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447829)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: Racy den son of senegal

Money out there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448999)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: aquamarine excitant crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36449222)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: curious shrine people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36449345)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:30 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450367)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:30 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450368)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: confused tan national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450420)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: brass costumed principal's office hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453650)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Underhanded garnet locus doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453708)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Very tactful razzle-dazzle forum masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453728)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: cream wrinkle police squad

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447832)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: carnelian titillating institution pozpig

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447836)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: aquamarine excitant crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447839)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

Rot in hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447841)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Sorry, brother. I don't want you to be unhappy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447859)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: cream wrinkle police squad

Why would you tell a 180 poaster this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447861)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: olive bearded public bath

lol faggot cslg is 180 and has helped a bunch of bros on this site

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447902)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

Yeah man! frivolous lawsuits are awesome, really good for society!

Posters cheer as their insurance rates go up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448134)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: carnelian titillating institution pozpig

uninsured illegal beaners are causing rates to go up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448146)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

They can rot in hell too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448160)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:17 PM
Author: olive bearded public bath

rules of the game bro don't hate the player

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448280)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: wild vivacious mediation pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448285)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Cracking Buff Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

Oh alright, I guess it's ok then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448402)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: Green Talented Toilet Seat

U mirin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450597)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:23 PM
Author: Blathering wagecucks sweet tailpipe

You are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448669)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:43 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

Isn't this stuff the equivalent of a Boomer doctor bragging about how many tests he was able to run on a patient and run up a really nice bill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450287)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:52 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple

If it weren't for CSLG, Chandler would be homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450298)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:53 AM
Author: Yapping territorial goal in life black woman

and his wife wouldn't have enough food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450303)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:53 AM
Author: Laughsome sanctuary sound barrier

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450304)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:06 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

? Explain this rent seeking behavior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450324)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:11 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple

You're right, it's a total travesty what's being done to these poor insurance companies. Crazy that we live in a world where they can't get organized to try and put a stop to this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:14 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

You're required by law to have insurance, this raises their rate.

Yeah the system is shit, but taking part in it (and getting $100K+) for a fender bender is shit too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450336)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:15 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater

U: bitter balding risk averse dork slaving away for a boss

CSLG: cashing ur fat premium chex, is the boss, retiring early

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450340)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:17 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

I have a full head of hair, but I am irate that my premium will increase next month bc of some rent seeking faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450343)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:20 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater

looks like he already sought the rent, found it, and it's coming out of your ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450348)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stain Marketing Idea

You got that right! Enjoy hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450357)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:26 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater

(guy paying rent instead of receiving it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:31 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple

These lawsuits aren't frivolous. A tort was committed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450375)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: orange contagious gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36447860)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: irradiated feces

FYI - block out the full zip code, unless the law firm it's associated with is not related to you / XO somehow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448152)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:53 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple

His website and yelp has all the same pictures he's posted here, including the medieval times team trip. But he's 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450301)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:59 AM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Thoughts on my website?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450659)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

You like how I bought all my staff law firm shirts that were medieval themed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453536)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple

Yeah, it’s hilarious how low rent your practice is compared to how high rent all the graphics and design are. Your legal intern getting a page in front of John Wick is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453640)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

It only costs a couple grand to do a nice website, a photo shoot, some good graphic design/videos, and make some T-shirts/mugs/mousepads. Looking clean/professional goes a long way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36453778)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:30 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater

oh no! he might get outed and lose his job!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450366)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:31 AM
Author: Demanding big-titted community account temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450372)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Underhanded garnet locus doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36452762)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Lol, good catch - fixed. I could care less though, 2/3 of the board knows who I am or has met me/talked on the phone. I freely give out my RL info when people e-mail me anyways. Plus, nothing I post here is offensive. I just help bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450649)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: fragrant state

holy shit!

describe how maf the adjuster was on the phone?

bro i got a property/loss use/100 day rental car issue. how do you get allstate to pay beyond a 7 day extension when they never mailed out a total loss check months prior and ignored every certified letter and phone call (well one certified letter, 3-4 faxes and like 100 phone calls). they don't give out email.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448153)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Adjuster was chill and friendly. We talked about our toddlers for like 30 min. Farmers is a good company to work with. On other case adjuster was just happy to get the file off his desk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448182)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: fragrant state

got a case where driver 1 has $500k property (not umbrella, i think prior recent dui) client's car totaled, offered like $20k on a new jag. rejected settlement. found out enetrprise billed my client $30/day and towed the car and they've sent no check and don't have the title yet from my client.

can i sue for fraud misrep that they're forcing a lowball on the car value by not extending rental dates beyond a week? can i call the insured and rat them out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448220)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Something seems odd based on what you are telling me. There is a formula to calculate total loss value based on comps. The insurance code governs how this is done. There shouldn't be much of an issue with value. Moreover, you usually get higher than bluebook on total losses because you get sales tax and the only people who record sales with the DMV (where they pull comps) are usually dealerships. And dealerships sell cars for more than private party sales. Something doesn't add up. I think you have my real info, call me tomorrow and we can chat about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: fragrant state

i don't. but tsinah has one of my email addresses and i talk to him about fl hoodrat cases. i'll come on later and see if you're around.

i've never had an issue with property ever before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448398)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: aquamarine excitant crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448286)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Im writing a book. Just very slowly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448979)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: Cracking Buff Shitlib

CR what about?

I think you have a 180 future as a self-help guru for lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36448991)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: clear step-uncle's house preventive strike

*poasters telling people NOT to go to law school*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36449330)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: Trip pearl range

CAH LEE SHIT LAW

bom ba dom bom bum bum bum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36449815)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: carnelian titillating institution pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36451697)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: olive bearded public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36454797)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:44 AM
Author: spectacular lake school associate

fuck, i need to hit you up already. sturggling out here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450288)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

Email me and I'm happy to talk to you about what you need to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450687)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 6:55 AM
Author: indigo odious therapy theater

nice clip man. 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450306)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: confused tan national

This is fucking insane. I'm gonna leave my firm and come sleep on your doorstep until you make me the next Chandler. JFC 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36450419)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: Hideous bateful base

Like the hordes in Mother! storming through his house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36452736)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: Pearly Theater Stage

CREAM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028717&forum_id=2#36451703)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: mind-boggling slate brunch philosopher-king

Happy for you bra

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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: Misunderstood hissy fit

180million

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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: mustard adulterous haunted graveyard

TY

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