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Why cant BMW make a car that doesnt self destruct by 100k miles?
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:53 AM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon N20 engines failing at 50k, carbon buildup on all their diesels requiring thousands spent on “maintenance” to tear down half the engine and clean the junk out, major oil leaks, cooling system issues due to sps plastic parts. The list goes on and on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662728) |
Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:56 AM Author: gay disrespectful locus DAT German craftsmanship and engineering! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662741) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Claret Insecure Mother Temple Why do you think you stupid nigger? Here's an idea: buy a car you can afford to maintain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662742) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon nothing to do with money. I also could prob fix most of the issues that pop up myself, but I question the sps engineering that went into making these craptastic cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662761) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Claret Insecure Mother Temple You are poor and nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662844) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon OK PUMO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662896) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Claret Insecure Mother Temple You got pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663148) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 6:09 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36665686) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke beautiful XO exchange in the style of the Silver Age; thank you both *plays lyre to oral reading of xo petronius* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677921) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: Boyish half-breed space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679337) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: big chest-beating native athletic conference he pwnd you dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684095) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Arousing Bearded Place Of Business Ticket Booth German Engineering is a myth propped up by the strong Deutsche Mark according to a friend of mine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662744) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: bateful boistinker Dunno about cars, but German engineering is real. Just look at the incredibly efficient windows in German houses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663120) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:49 AM Author: Pearly elite ape LOL you're fucking flaming. I legit broke one of those stupid sideways window frame things once without even trying. They're probably engineered that way so you have to get a repairman out to fix it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36676151) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke German over-engineering (in the sense of redundancies, great fatigue strength, generous operational tolerances, parts specified in excess of the anticipated operational requirements etc.) was a thing until sometime in the 90s (exact timing depends on the brand) when they realized they had firmly established themselves as world-leading luxury brands and no longer needed to engineer actually superior products, at which point relative quality began to take a dive (accelerated by increasing expectations on margins). What they didn't scrub themselves of was the penchant to over-complicate the engineering work. Which brings you to the current day where you have a bunch of Rube-Goldbergian design problems in their vehicles coupled with planned obsolescence. But it doesn't matter to the companies because the brand positioning is firmly entrenched, for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677963) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: garnet market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36696937) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:56 AM Author: ebony site fortuitous meteor Sorry to hear you've had a rough time, you know I could put you into a new 530i for just 599 a month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662745) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: cerebral mentally impaired jew meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662842) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:06 AM Author: Self-centered wonderful ceo chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668061) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:34 AM Author: Fantasy-prone police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668248) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 10:52 AM Author: provocative sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36670347) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:23 PM Author: swashbuckling haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36698599) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:58 AM Author: hairraiser jet-lagged milk They're "precision machines" is what the VW dealership kept telling me lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662753) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 11:59 AM Author: violent stage i had an f30 i got rid of two years ago because it needed about $4,500 in "maintenance" once it hit 80k miles. fuck that. and you can't even get a remote starter on them, whereas lincoln and cadillac let you remote start your car from your smart phone. don't understand by bmw does not offer this as an option. call me a pussy but in a cold weather state its CR as fuck walking out to an already warm car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662769) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:03 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon I’m curious what “maintenance” items it needed? German makes are notorious for labeling design defects as “maintenance”. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662798) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: violent stage it was a while ago now but i remember one item was a transmission fluid hose that cost like $1,100 (dealer said the cost was mostly labor since its hard to access). Gasket for oil filter housing was like another $1k. And $500 for spark plugs. Yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663014) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:42 AM Author: Electric ungodly theater stage hunting ground Spark plugs is one of the biggest rippoffs because almost anyone can change them at home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36676132) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Did you try an independent BMW repair shop? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667437) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:26 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison You're right about remote start. I will never again live with a non-remote-start winter vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668177) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship New ones have it also via app. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36670283) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Appetizing massive point Only gooks and striver fags fall for the German engineering meme.
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon I mean I’m jealous of the way German cars can operate at autobahn speeds in a way no other car can, but at what cost? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662821) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke German cars in the 80s were built like tanks down to their basic parts like struts and housings. They were the Toyotas of their day. That decade in particular is where the "meme" originated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677975) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: Light flickering menage That only applies to classic Mercs. BMWs, Volkswagens, Audis, Porsches et. al were always unreliable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679314) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon Not true. E30s were solid machines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679343) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke Not in my experience. BMWs and Audis from the 80s are right up there with Mercs. Porsche is an entirely different animal and has always been finicky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679345) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:05 PM Author: tripping quadroon buy a jap car you can drive into the ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662820) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon Hate the way most of them drive. Have owned Lexus, Infiniti, and Toyota. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662837) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:41 PM Author: Unholy parlor If you can bring yourself to drive a Honda, the Accord and Civic both handle better than equivalent Toyotas IMHO. Better manual gearboxes too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667428) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:36 AM Author: Fantasy-prone police squad I've been driving a Honda Pilot since 2006 when I bought it new. It's an incredible car, drives really well, and has next to no problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668260) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:24 AM Author: mahogany pistol house LMFAO of course your loser ass drives a fucking TTT Honda PiloTTT.
no wonder your gf is getting spitroasted w Chad cock every night.
Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:36 AM Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
I've been driving a Honda Pilot since 2006 when I bought it new. It's an incredible car, drives really well, and has next to no problems.
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:14 PM Author: Soggy brass step-uncle's house Idk man weird how iPhones shit out after 2 years too
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Turquoise aromatic immigrant hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662917) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:17 PM Author: charismatic bipolar casino electric furnace Smells like latkes ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36662914) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:46 PM Author: contagious frozen party of the first part liquid oxygen I've got 225K miles on my 2006 325i. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663116) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: Unholy parlor did you buy it new? any secrets to maintenance? i rate you as prestigious and your experience as not typical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667431) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:03 AM Author: contagious frozen party of the first part liquid oxygen I bought it for $7,500 when it had 103K miles on it, about 5 years ago. I change the oil every 6-8K miles with full synthetic. So far I have replaced the coil packs and plugs, one wheel bearing, all 4 tires, one door lock actuator, and the battery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36676006) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:44 AM Author: Electric ungodly theater stage hunting ground No engine or transmission oil leaks? I do think their smaller engines are less prone to issues. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake LJL at anyone that doesn't buy a Honda, Toyota or Lexus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663142) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 12:52 PM Author: charismatic bipolar casino electric furnace EGREGIOUS Acura bashing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663152) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake glorified Honda, not enough value-add (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663274) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:36 AM Author: umber trip windowlicker kitchen Which is still better than a Lexus unless you're a chink real estate woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669701) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:40 AM Author: lilac dead principal's office lexuses worth buying: ls, gs and is350.
es was specifically left off not necause it is a bad car but because the new camry is perhaps better and less expensive. Also the avalon is literally the same car. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake (fag with a 2015 ILX) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677884) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:25 AM Author: lilac dead principal's office lol @ buying an acura. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669678) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:44 AM Author: Electric ungodly theater stage hunting ground Nsx man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36676141) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon FWD econocars that drive like shit in comparison to Germans. Reliable, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663301) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake IS, GS, LS are all RWD, many others are available AWD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663324) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon True there are a few RWD ones and they drive better than the FWD and FWD-biased AWD models, but they still don’t drive nearly as well as the Germans. They can’t match that solid feeling you get with a BMW or MB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663355) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake brother that solid feeling is the big krautcock in your ass from the $200 oil changes for your 320i. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663375) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon Don’t care about true maintenance items since I do all that shit myself. More worried about some sps bearing causing internal engine damage requiring a total replacement. Or the turbo goes to shit and costs $3k just for the part. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663382) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM Author: out-of-control corner Never understood why people choose bmw over Mercedes. No the steering isn't better or whatever. It's just annoying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663234) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Appetizing massive point You get krautcucked either way. BMW and Merc business model relies on striver fags to pay a "premium" for the car to signal status, and then they gape these strivers whenever they need repairs or parts for their vehicles by +1,000% mark up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663257) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:08 PM Author: razzle-dazzle rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663278) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:08 PM Author: out-of-control corner Don't the decent Mercs regularly go 200-300k miles without more than regular maintenance? I constantly see old E-class sedans and wagons driving around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663281) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon No. People that own MBs just are more willing to put money into them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663307) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:22 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Than BMWs? Why would you think this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36675660) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:14 PM Author: charismatic bipolar casino electric furnace the diesels perhaps, and there was a lot less tech in those older cars too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663325) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:15 PM Author: Appetizing massive point No, Merc are just taxi trash cars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36663330) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:04 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668046) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:44 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship They're marginally better, sure. But you can't really count on 200-300k miles from any car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667449) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Infuriating Tanning Salon Prole the diesels, yes. gas engines, no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679624) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM Author: yapping overrated hospital turdskin earl crying, losing hoap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36665682) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:55 AM Author: Appetizing massive point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669745) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:44 PM Author: Unholy parlor have you really driven both? i like the style/design on a benz, but it drives like you're on a cushion (or the road is intermediated by computers). bmw handling is so, so much tighter and sportier and more fun (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667452) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship For me it is the fact that BMW is a bit cheaper for comparable cars and I know a bunch of people who had great experiences with their CPO warranties. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36667493) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:28 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison It used to be better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668192) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:33 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668239) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:38 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison 20 years ago, BMW steering feel and handling shat all over the other German marques. They used to legitimately make the best (reasonable) drivers' cars. Now, not so much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668269) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:04 AM Author: Unholy parlor name better drivers' cars that are not reasonable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668534) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship So are you complaining about performance or reliability? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669660) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke part of this has to do with environmental regulations (fuel efficiency in particular); they're under pressure to squeeze every possible MPG out of the platforms and that means it's hard to justify hydraulic steering these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36678007) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 6:07 PM Author: lake associate theatre Modern performance combustion cars are complicated. You should go electric if you want low maintenance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36665672) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon not concerned w/ maintenance as I do it all myself. the self destruction at 100K has little to do with maintenance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36665699) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 6:30 PM Author: lake associate theatre By maintenance i mean replacing worn out parts. Spark plugs, belts, fluids, filters and all that shit. High tech engines have like 10,000 little parts that wear out. Electric motor can last 500,000 miles with almost no maintenance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36665826) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:05 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Pretty sure it has a lot to do with it. Also, people who like to tune their cars to squeeze more performance out of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668052) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:29 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison (Elon Musk) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668200) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 2:49 AM Author: Electric ungodly theater stage hunting ground (Charges you $400 for an annual service)
the fucking fuck, thought these were low maintenance. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: motley faggot firefighter This is awful advice. The jury is very much still out on lifetime service costs for electric vehicles, but it's well established that Teslas cost FAR more than other luxury vehicles to maintain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679411) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship They eat quite a bit of that cost but no one knows if that will continue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679456) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: motley faggot firefighter Pro-tip: they will be bankrupt in 12 months, and half the time they don't even have the parts so your car sits in the shop for months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679773) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 10:45 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship jfc, seriously? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681741) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 11:08 PM Author: lake associate theatre You can make millions with some puts then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681823) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:25 PM Author: motley faggot firefighter I plan to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684109) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 10:33 PM Author: Electric ungodly theater stage hunting ground CR.
I heard from a friend of a friend in the tech industry that Tesla's suppliers are getting worried to the point they're filing mechanics liens against Tesla property. Even the Gigafactory is subject to a mechanics lien, LOL. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: lake associate theatre This is wrong. A model S is more expensive to fix after a crash (mostly due to aluminum body). But it's about half the cost in maintenance and repair compared to a 7 series or S class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36680868) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:25 PM Author: motley faggot firefighter Your insurance is twice as expensive regardless of whether you get into a crash, and you're still on the hook if someone crashes into you, obviously.
And on the maintenance side you're basically a guinea pig, since we have no idea what the long-term maintenance costs will be or how these things will hold up after 100k miles, and since the maintenance costs are subsidized by Tesla burning cash, which is not sustainable. |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: lake associate theatre Insurance rates are actually about the same for model S and 7-series and S class MB. But I would suggest model 3 Tesla anyway. Will be much higher volume and cheaper to repair. My insurance is the same as my 3 series BMW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36706175) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:18 AM Author: Sepia greedy hall black woman Just get a Kia or Hyundai. It'll get you from point A to point B. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668128) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:24 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison BMW appears to have totally lost its way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668169) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:33 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship I don't see any evidence they have gotten less reliable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668238) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:35 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison Just in general... The type of vehicle they make, the way they drive, not so much the reliability. I don't care much about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668256) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:42 AM Author: out-of-control corner Their decision to abruptly stop production on the 1 Series M coupe is indefensible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668300) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:49 AM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison X6. Ugh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668368) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:52 AM Author: out-of-control corner that's a really hideous car but it's MB counterpart (gle coupe) is selling like hotcakes in Asia for some reason. Asians (and their shitty aesthetics) have influenced these brands a lot in the last decade. All of the other MB crossovers (excluding the G wagon) are even uglier than the X6. The GLC suv looks like some amorphous piece of dogshit designed by a Taiwanese kid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36668414) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:06 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship I don't know, I think the gle coupe and the glc both are great in amg 63 trim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669790) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Library you're also asian so this makes sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677955) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 3:59 PM Author: laughsome bistre sandwich whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679307) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679457) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship That is actually what I'm getting. X6 50i or x6m. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669714) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:56 AM Author: lilac dead principal's office get the x6m. at that point, what's an extra $25k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669752) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:04 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship I'd also have to figure something out with swapping out wheels because the tires available for the x6m are like 2x as expensive and last less than half as long. Plus, the 50i is really fast as it is. But the X6m comes with most of the features I want. For the 50i I'd need to spec it out with the dynamic handling package and some other stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669780) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM Author: lilac dead principal's office can we cruise around and pick up chicks while our wives stay home and make us food? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669920) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 10:37 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship We could be we won't because we're lazy and married. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36670280) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: fiercely-loyal flushed garrison Lol, you twat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702763) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36703157) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: charismatic bipolar casino electric furnace oh dear God not an X6. that is such a faggoty car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702767) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36703158) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke They've become a general luxury brand like Audi (which sold its own soul somewhere in the mid-to-late 00s). They still have some barnstormers but they aren't obsessively wedded to the idea of the car as a perfected driving machine anymore. Because that doesn't get you X5 lease payments from 30-something social climbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679297) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:57 AM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner The big six was nearly indestructible.
I beat the snot out of a Bavaria and, other than a puff of smoke on decel from worn valve guides (or seals I have no idea as I did not care to fix it), the car was bulletproof. I bought it because it was cheap ($1500), rust free and needed a fender from an accident oh, and, you know, I was obsessed with frankenbav which almost won the targa Newfoundland.
I keep looking for a good 533i/535i/733i/735i with a manual but they have rusted to shit or are stupid money most of the time. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:54 AM Author: bisexual vibrant home I'm at 230k w my ford Taurus. Had a Passat and it was trash at 100k. Never again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669743) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 8:57 AM Author: Appetizing massive point trade it in for a Mustang bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669758) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:07 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship (nyuug) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669791) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: bisexual vibrant home really really want to.
Not crazy about the lack of trunk space or the tight back seats.
But hey, according to another poaster I'm not a family man because my kid is adopted, so I shouldn't care about that, right? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2018 9:38 AM Author: White Gaming Laptop Cr never again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36669965) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:37 AM Author: Self-centered wonderful ceo chapel TDI passatt are 180 until you hit 180 miles on the odom. Get a subie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36675701) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 1:54 AM Author: Supple bat-shit-crazy indian lodge Exactly. Oh yeah and if you don't do this $800 every 80k miles timing belt change your engine will self destruct because interfered valves and piston. Get fucked VW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36675982) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Why anyone uses a timing belt instead of a timing chain is beyond me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36677701) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: irradiated field crotch $800 every 80k is not something to complain about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684139) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 6:47 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship And if it is, you shouldn't be considering a German car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36704277) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:41 AM Author: soul-stirring lavender brunch H e h. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: amber dashing spot I would never buy one again. At one point we owned a BMW and MB and were paying $5-6k/yr in maintenance (independent shop for BMW, dealer for MB). The cost of ownership is absurd for typical suburban commuting and an occasional weekend trip. Every time I took the BMW in it was $2-3k for some shit, and there was still some active stabilizer bar or something that they told me not to bother fixing because it was an overcomplicated POS that would just break/leak again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679480) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship How many years/miles did it go before it turned to shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679545) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:36 PM Author: amber dashing spot It was an '05 E60 (530i). I loved the look, finishes, comfort, options (it was loaded), and how it drove. I bought it in 2011 with 85k miles. Drove it daily for about 5 years and 30k miles - constant maintenance during that time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679585) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: lilac dead principal's office lol @ buying a luxury german car with 85k miles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679593) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: amber dashing spot I know that now. I thought I could get away with it because I wouldn't put many miles on it.
We're now looking at Toyota or Subaru. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: lilac dead principal's office get a wrx or sti. ywia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679640) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: provocative sound barrier seriously LMAO wtf woudl you do this jim kelly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679748) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: Appetizing massive point BMW = BAIT for MALE WAGECUCKS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679790) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 8:51 PM Author: Unholy parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681098) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: amber dashing spot It was $17.5k and looked brand new. I thought I could get 10 years out of it with low mileage.
Some lessons are best learned the hard way. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 8:54 PM Author: Unholy parlor makes sense to me. i test drove a 550i around then and LOVED it, but a friend told me the engines had problems and it seems like tons of their engines fail in multiple categories (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681110) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: lime beady-eyed national security agency university Lol I lemon law’ed my 335i 3 months before the warranty was up. Fuel pump and injection issues every 6 months. One time 2 cylinders misfired while I was driving on the feeeway at 85mph and lost a lot of power. I’ve been driving a MB since 2013 and they are boring ass cars but a lot more reliable. Will never own a bmw ever again. It was a really fun car though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679633) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: lilac dead principal's office some MBs are just very luxurious and comfortable IMO. Which model do you have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679661) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: Curious Cordovan Corn Cake just get a rx 350 and be done with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36679682) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: Appetizing massive point cr BMW = striver junk and azn bait MB is more reliable, but you still get krautcucked. there's a reason why every taxi in Germany is a Merc Benz |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 9:47 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship How much more would you spend on an MB vs a BMW for a comparable car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681436) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: Vivacious Gunner Your issues concerned an engine with known problems.
For whatever reason, BMW had huge issues with the new engines they introduced over a period of several years. With all of those engines, they introduced a revised engine package after a couple years that greatly improved reliability.
As best I can tell, BMW has always had a checkered history with respect to reliability of certain engine packages. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 9:55 PM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Meanwhile my 20 year old GM just keeps running with over 300k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681476) |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 10:46 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Your thoughts on BMW/Mercedes reliability? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681742) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Anything from the gas turbo era is SPS. I would not touch anything made in the last 6-7 years as a result.
Merc
Merc 300D is the most reliable vehicle made, possibly ever.
The 55 AMG supercharged cars are good. I loved my G55. Had no issues, even the window regulators worked fine. The 6.2 NA AMG are ok with the $4k fix for head bolts or whatever it is that causes them to blow up.
The 320 were not terrible and the four bangers were not too bad either, but the best Mercs were always diesel at least prebluetec. CDIs are marginal. But the 96-99 or whatever E300 are highly under appreciated.
BMW
Normally aspirated 4 or 6 with a manual are generally good and reliable cars.
E46 auto trans are SPS as are E90. The motors are actually pretty good as noted above, but cooling systems and some gaskets need to be treated as wear items.
E36/E39 are pretty good, but good luck finding a good one these days. And lots of stupid and expensive shit to make right (headliner, suspension, stupid pixels).
The killers are subframe work on the 3 and Z cars (if you have a good one, the various patches are not too bad).
V8, V12 (god help you), BMWs and the 7 from 95 on are just terrible.
For BMW what you want is an early 90s 535i or 735i (manual if you can find it but lol at that — they did make the 7 in manual but I have been looking for a decade to find one worth buying and I have seen a total of two, both trashed) or just get an e36 or Z3 with a manual and a good subframe with no cracks.
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Date: August 25th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Ty. Assume the choices are an x6 50i, an x6m or a gle 63 amg coupe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684007) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:14 PM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Uber
I can’t recommend any of those vehicles. |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: tan jewess TMF utterly done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702744) |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36707191) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: Impertinent red useless brakes dragon isn't the N55 supposed to be fairly reliable (other than maybe needing a walnut blast every 80K or so)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684034) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship A 6 cylinder in a performance vehicle is a strange idea to me (with a few exceptions such as Porsches) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684045) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Vivacious Gunner You need to distinguish between a straight-6 and v-6. Turbo straight-6 engines are 180. They are very smooth and have excellent power bands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684665) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 8:48 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Unless you're running a small car it just won't be enough power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36685415) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:15 PM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner This is nonsense.
Straight six is the second most balanced engine design and there are straight sixes with 1000+ hp. |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 10:07 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Link to production straight 6 cars with 1000+ hp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36700790) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 10:21 AM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Not production of course. A 2JZ or a barra can do 1000hp easy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36700865) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 10:22 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship I understand that non-production cars do all kinds of stuff but since none of us are contemplating any of them (ok, you might) they don't really matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36700881) |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner I think the M3 topped out at 444hp with a six and the M2 is over 400 now.
So saying a straight 6 is not a performance engine is just wrong.
Merc abandoned the 6, but BMW stuck with it, Merc actually makes a straight 6 again.
The straight Six has really only one downside which is packaging. By necessity it is long, works like crap in front wheel drive form because it is long. The other issue, which is really not an issue anymore, is that you end up getting to inefficient piston size sooner than a V8. Anything over 5 liters in a six has that issue. The latter is the main reason why US car manufacturers relegated straight 6 to economy models (and ford came out with the V8 in the early 30s which set the market 8>6). Giant horsepower naturally aspirated straight six don’t really work like V8s do. One, they are strokers which limits rpm and two piston size. So Americans got 440s, 460s, 455, 454, even 472 and 500 cubic inch V8s in the muscle car era. And actually you could get an 8.1 liter (502 CI) V8 up until about 12 years ago.
But back to a six. A straight six (and a flat six like Porsche) is balanced through primary and secondary. That’s good not just for vibration but you don’t have to do fucktard stuff like a balance shaft and ends up with a very reliable design and one capable of insane hp if built. The 2JZ, the barra (which is derived from the ford straight six of the 60s), the RB nissans, are all very high hp tolerant designs. And things like the AMC/Jeep 4.2/4.0 (and Chevy and Ford sixes) are very durable. Even BMW (which use a different bearing arrangement) are good engines capable of a lot of hp. And they are silky smooth. Especially the big six. I mean, why do you thinks rolls and Bentley used straight Six way past when everyone else had gone to V8 (of course they eventually bought a GM medium duty V8 truck engine to use in their cars).
Anyway, get your turboed V8 or V6. I have nothing against that. Just understand the differences. |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 2:09 AM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Not sure how I could forget, you want power, get a straight 6 Cummins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36706453) |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 8:49 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship "I think the M3 topped out at 444hp with a six and the M2 is over 400 now."
Both are small cars, which was my point.
But look, it isn't that I'm saying there isn't a use case for them. My old Jeep Grand Cherokee had a straight 6 and wasn't a bad car. |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 6:22 PM Author: Vivacious Gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684659) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Unholy parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684125) |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 6:23 PM Author: Vivacious Gunner Your blanket criticism of modern turbos is misplaced. They are significantly more reliable than older turbos, which rightly earned a horrible reputation. The combination of cooling turbos with the car's coolant system, rather than oil, and electric water pumps, which continue to run after a car is shutoff, results in significantly improved reliability.
As for direct injection, on the other hand, I still have my doubts. |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:20 PM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner What do you think the expected lifespan of an electric water pump is?
Turbos make direct injection worse.
And how about the rest of the tech in the cars? |
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Date: August 25th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: gold orchestra pit dog poop 180 post, what about the E30 though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36684671) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:17 PM Author: Sienna exciting doctorate partner Rust
Also really slow. And old. And not particularly nice. But I would not turn my nose up at a 325ix or M3. |
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Date: August 24th, 2018 11:03 PM Author: Sepia greedy hall black woman Back when MB owned Chrysler Chrysler was losing money and MB compensated by using cheap parts in their MBs. My dad had one of these MBs and sold it 'cos every moving part in the car was going to end up being replaced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36681810) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: razzmatazz set famous landscape painting I assume every man driving a BMW has a tiny penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36696951) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 7:32 PM Author: provocative sound barrier mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36696986) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship (guy who can't afford a BMW) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36698025) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 11:20 PM Author: Unholy parlor (guy bragging about his fixation on other mens' penises) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36698588) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Self-centered wonderful ceo chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702640) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: lilac dead principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702712) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: lilac dead principal's office most guys i know who drive bmws have decent sized dicks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702722) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: tan jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36702739) |
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Date: August 29th, 2018 5:28 AM Author: Self-centered wonderful ceo chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36706799) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: lilac dead principal's office Can't spell BMW with BM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36700888) |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: charismatic bipolar casino electric furnace So what is the credited German luxury car ranking?
MB > BMW > Audi? |
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Date: August 28th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship Porsche > MB > BMW > Audi > VW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4058075&forum_id=2#36703163) |