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Junior guy trying to steal all my work, give me advice

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Chocolate vibrant location
  08/31/18
profess faith to orthodoxy
Stirring Den Dopamine
  08/31/18
file a sexual harassment claim
tan philosopher-king juggernaut
  08/31/18
Circle of life. His billing rate is lower and he’s less cyni...
irradiated crackhouse hominid
  08/31/18
mandy is not a real lawyer
tan philosopher-king juggernaut
  08/31/18
cr
Chocolate vibrant location
  08/31/18
Work is like federal pound me in the ass prison. Kick someon...
Idiotic Property Sweet Tailpipe
  08/31/18
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Vengeful Tantric Wagecucks
  08/31/18
is the work meaningful? if not, who gives a shit? leave th...
white erotic theater stage
  08/31/18
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fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
tytyty Surprisingly good advice in this thread (false sex...
Chocolate vibrant location
  08/31/18
how did he backstab you? you're probably imagining things
white erotic theater stage
  08/31/18
Definitely this, I doubt the junior did anything to the poas...
charcoal godawful indian lodge
  09/03/18
See below. But basically he came in on a project I invited h...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
18000000
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
He's also a rabid shitlib and shit talks Trump during lunch....
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
Death knell
comical dragon
  09/05/18
nobody wants to do mundane work. was he told clearly in the...
white erotic theater stage
  09/03/18
He was told that this would be a junior position with some m...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
On the flip side, I've definitely had seniors full-on steal ...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
This is corporate in-house. And the reason I am taken aback ...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
Then that's on him and everyone at his firm probably hated h...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
Exactly!!! So far it was just a comment but I redlined a con...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
To be fair, if the other people you're working with don't kn...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
We both started fairly recently. My reputation at the compa...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
Then tread carefully: he wants to be viewed as more "go...
Mind-boggling persian
  09/03/18
Lol, can feel my balls shrinking just reading this. Fuck thi...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
and people still wonder just how bad working with women can ...
white erotic theater stage
  09/03/18
The false sexual harassment claim was the ONE piece of good ...
tripping stead knife
  08/31/18
We have no chemistry and he's like 10 years younger.
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
tell us about the chemistry you have with some other coworke...
Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender
  09/03/18
I like and respect my 60yo boss 100000x more than this junio...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
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tan philosopher-king juggernaut
  09/04/18
You want more work? I don't get it.
Marvelous school cafeteria
  08/31/18
Basically, I bring him in on a project as a "learning o...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
He sounds 180. Fuck off and do your busy work yourself
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
He's the junior member on the team literally hired to help u...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
So? He’s not some beta dork willing to get ordered around by...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
So should I just cut him out? I easily could. I'm the one gi...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
Yes, cut him out. Find a replacement, he doesn’t respect you...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
I cant find a replacement, it's not that sort of a company. ...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
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Mind-boggling persian
  09/03/18
Other people in senior positions do this all the time when t...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
I'm pissed because I went out of my way to be SUPER nice. Bu...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
they were super nice to you because they wanted you to do th...
white erotic theater stage
  09/03/18
have you tried talking to him?
Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender
  09/03/18
I talk to him every day question is how to best manage the s...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
i meant like taking him to lunch and addressing what you per...
Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender
  09/03/18
Again, he is very clearly after my job. I dont think talking...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
dont fucking "again" me. im trying to help. sorry ...
Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender
  09/03/18
>dont fucking "again" me. im trying to help. so...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
explain
Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender
  09/03/18
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bright confused goyim
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Glittery office chad
  09/03/18
"fear of layoffs" = all the more reason to come up...
charcoal godawful indian lodge
  09/03/18
Rate his lawyering skills
bright confused goyim
  09/03/18
He seems competent an hardworking. Not very knowledgeable ab...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
you are both pathetic
dashing twinkling pit
  09/03/18
non responsive
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
lol god corporate jobs are so fucking gay. cannot even imagi...
Primrose Charismatic Stage
  09/03/18
(New guy
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
I don't think a 5 minute conversation would resolve our issu...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
did you read my post...? i said if you weren't in a corporat...
Primrose Charismatic Stage
  09/03/18
OP is literally a woman
Embarrassed to the bone faggotry home
  09/03/18
Cr, except her husband would behave no differently, and do s...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
lmao ok that's funny
Primrose Charismatic Stage
  09/03/18
what kind of shit company is both hiring and laying off in t...
white erotic theater stage
  09/03/18
This shit happens at big banks. 30 person team and 19 people...
bright confused goyim
  09/03/18
When he ignores the busy work, start copying more senior peo...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
This is a good answer but could also reflect poorly on the O...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
Exactly. Snitches get stitches. I personally don't view it a...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
(Frank Grimes)
chartreuse angry reading party
  09/03/18
Yeah, this is a bit too passive aggressive for my taste. I'd...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
Worked for me, but admittedly I haven't worked in a small of...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
I see it done in big corporate environments too, I just don'...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
Your mileage may vary, but in my experience it has been very...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
I guess it's more that I don't disagree with the technique i...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
The DC thing was really intended as a joke, but it looks lik...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
"Being nice isn't always the answer" entirely agre...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
yeah DC is atrocious. fucking backstabber striver city. that...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
this. I've always been surprised how scared office workers a...
bright confused goyim
  09/03/18
It's not a "scared" thing, it's a "getting sh...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
It's a "scared" thing because too many people who ...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
I agree with you, but the pumo seemed to be implying that I ...
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/03/18
who would have imagine that a pumo had shitty advice... A...
Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot
  09/03/18
obviously. But if you are on speaking terms with the person,...
bright confused goyim
  09/03/18
I'm Russian, I am very comfortable with in person confrontat...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
"I'm very comfortable with in-person confrontations, bu...
tan philosopher-king juggernaut
  09/04/18
Again, not that kind of a work environment, not that kind of...
Chocolate vibrant location
  09/03/18
Only cr ITT is from GITMO TP
pontificating psychic
  09/03/18
Lmao can you imagine taking bitchwork orders from Mandy? Lma...
Histrionic buff police squad
  09/03/18
*train rattles by your desk as your prepare to unearth oil t...
claret background story coffee pot
  09/05/18
180 I hope this bro makes it. Fuck Mandy and her square husb...
fighting aquamarine stage
  09/03/18
ITT: A portrait of the inner workings of the modern working ...
tan philosopher-king juggernaut
  09/04/18
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Histrionic buff police squad
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white erotic theater stage
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lolcr. dude comes in ready for the good life of in house, fi...
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white erotic theater stage
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tan philosopher-king juggernaut
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Learning disabled hyperactive business firm new version
  09/05/18
i bet this guy's a real hit with the ladies
Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi
  09/05/18
Assuming there is no ambiguity that you are his superior wit...
Dark voyeur alpha
  09/05/18


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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722386)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Stirring Den Dopamine

profess faith to orthodoxy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722387)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut

file a sexual harassment claim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722415)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: irradiated crackhouse hominid

Circle of life. His billing rate is lower and he’s less cynical and disillusioned than you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722498)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut

mandy is not a real lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722544)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36725625)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Idiotic Property Sweet Tailpipe

Work is like federal pound me in the ass prison. Kick someone’s ass or becomes someone’s bitch, your choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722555)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: Vengeful Tantric Wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36725657)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

is the work meaningful? if not, who gives a shit? leave the empty suit back office striving to tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36722562)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739183)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

tytyty

Surprisingly good advice in this thread (false sexual harassment claims aside). I think I do have to be more aggressive while giving him the shittier work. I started out trying to be super nice and build loyalty but he back stabbed me and I gotta look out for myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36724455)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

how did he backstab you? you're probably imagining things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36725628)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: charcoal godawful indian lodge

Definitely this, I doubt the junior did anything to the poaster. He is probably just losing his shit and becoming paranoid.

I hate to break it to you brother, but this is what the beginning of severe irreversible burnout looks like. You're probably just done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739157)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

See below. But basically he came in on a project I invited him to come along as a learning opportunity, started giving instructions and ignoring my instructions when I asked him to look into something for me. And looking back he has done this before over the last several weeks. This guy was onboarded very recently.

He is also competent and has been helpful in other areas. My issue is that he is trying to avoid busy work and grab as much high level work as possible and that just isn't the position he was hired for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739182)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

18000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739188)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

He's also a rabid shitlib and shit talks Trump during lunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739204)



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Date: September 5th, 2018 2:31 AM
Author: comical dragon

Death knell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36748263)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:16 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

nobody wants to do mundane work. was he told clearly in the interview process that this was to be a deadend low level terminal job? if not, it's fair game if he's better than you. this isn't biglaw where you can fall back on seniority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739369)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

He was told that this would be a junior position with some mundane tasks. It's not a dead end position but moving forward will not happen in a matter of weeks. This is the sort of job you stay at for 10+ years and move forward slowly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739490)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

On the flip side, I've definitely had seniors full-on steal my work back when I was a junior. The internal competitive mentality is a huge part of why I'm glad I'm not in biglaw anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739233)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

This is corporate in-house. And the reason I am taken aback is that this is not at all the mentality of anyone else I work with. It's a total culture clash and he brought this with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739254)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

Then that's on him and everyone at his firm probably hated him.

For me, it was a situation where it was me and a senior on a matter, I wrote a draft, and he literally took that draft and sent it to the partner with a cover note that said, "Here is the draft I wrote."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739262)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

Exactly!!! So far it was just a comment but I redlined a contract and I was out on vacation so asked him to take over the negotiation and said "hey, my legal reasoning for our position is in my comments, just tell them that and you should be fine" And he took the comments and claimed the legal reasoning as his own (badly, because he doesn't even know the law that well). This was internal mind you. If he said it during negotiations fine but he claimed it as his own internally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739293)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

To be fair, if the other people you're working with don't know that you're more knowledgeable on a subject than some junior who just started, then you kind of need to fix that ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739302)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

We both started fairly recently. My reputation at the company is solid.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739361)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: Mind-boggling persian

Then tread carefully: he wants to be viewed as more "go-to" than you if a promotion opportunity ever arises.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739619)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

Lol, can feel my balls shrinking just reading this. Fuck this gay earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739414)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:31 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

and people still wonder just how bad working with women can be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739463)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: tripping stead knife

The false sexual harassment claim was the ONE piece of good advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36725629)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

We have no chemistry and he's like 10 years younger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739158)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender

tell us about the chemistry you have with some other coworkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739337)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I like and respect my 60yo boss 100000x more than this junior guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739352)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743242)



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Date: August 31st, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Marvelous school cafeteria

You want more work? I don't get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36725696)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

Basically, I bring him in on a project as a "learning opportunity" and he tries to take over and give instructions to other participants. Mind you, this guy is in a very junior position and has minimal experience. He also ignores my directions if I ask him to do something he considers to be "busy work" rather than substantive. Which is difficult because as a team, we went out and hired someone junior to help us with the busy work. And of course, I end up just doing it because it needs to get done and I am the one responsible for the final result.

There is fear of layoffs across the company and I think he is actively trying to position himself as my replacement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739146)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

He sounds 180. Fuck off and do your busy work yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739162)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

He's the junior member on the team literally hired to help us with the busy work. This was discussed during his interview.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739194)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

So? He’s not some beta dork willing to get ordered around by a woman. He’s looking out for #1 - himself. Most men don’t want to be company men like TMF does, they have a backbone. You’re best solution is to find a way to get rid of him and find a yes man who will do your bidding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739205)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

So should I just cut him out? I easily could. I'm the one giving him most of his work. But the trouble is, I do need the help. Guess I just need to control the work flow better and keep him off my projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739223)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

Yes, cut him out. Find a replacement, he doesn’t respect you and he won’t change. I’ve done what he’s doing in a past job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739224)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I cant find a replacement, it's not that sort of a company. I'm stuck with him basically forever, unless one of us gets laid off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739228)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:50 PM
Author: Mind-boggling persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739608)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

Other people in senior positions do this all the time when they're not being respected. If I were you, I would not feel bad about cutting him out at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739250)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I'm pissed because I went out of my way to be SUPER nice. But it's that sort of a team, everyone was incredibly nice to me when I was on-boarded. He's totally changing the dynamic here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739260)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:53 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

they were super nice to you because they wanted you to do the bitch work. that ploy doesn't work on everyone, obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739624)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender

have you tried talking to him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739345)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:16 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I talk to him every day question is how to best manage the situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739377)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender

i meant like taking him to lunch and addressing what you perceive to be his transgressions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739439)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

Again, he is very clearly after my job. I dont think talking it out over lunch will resolve the issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739497)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender

dont fucking "again" me. im trying to help. sorry i didnt read every post in your gay thread.

if you truly believe he is actively trying to undermine you and/or take your job, cut him out of as many projects as you can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739581)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

>dont fucking "again" me. im trying to help. sorry i didnt read every post in your gay thread.

bro...did you have a bad day or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739655)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mildly autistic church building sex offender

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739663)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: bright confused goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739701)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Glittery office chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739726)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: charcoal godawful indian lodge

"fear of layoffs" = all the more reason to come up with a discrimination claim

Shit, just take FMLA leave for 3 months and come back when the layoffs are over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739166)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: bright confused goyim

Rate his lawyering skills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739175)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

He seems competent an hardworking. Not very knowledgeable about the area that we are in but I am sure he will learn. On issue spotting he's a little weak and talks before he knows what he is doiing but again, this will probably resolve itself with time.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739190)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: dashing twinkling pit

you are both pathetic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739198)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

non responsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739206)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Primrose Charismatic Stage

lol god corporate jobs are so fucking gay. cannot even imagine having to indirectly maneuver around another """man""" like a fucking female instead of just having a 5 minute conversation with him that resolves all of these kind of issues permanently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739240)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

(New guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739247)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I don't think a 5 minute conversation would resolve our issues. He is worried about layoffs and clearly after my job. Not sure what talking about it for 5 minutes would accomplish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739263)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: Primrose Charismatic Stage

did you read my post...? i said if you weren't in a corporate environment, you wouldn't have to ever deal with this. no, of course a 5 minute man-to-man conversation will not resolve this issue - that's the whole point

you have no other choice except to backstab him back like a woman, because that's what the corporate world is



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739285)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone faggotry home

OP is literally a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739297)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

Cr, except her husband would behave no differently, and do so proudly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739303)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:10 PM
Author: Primrose Charismatic Stage

lmao

ok that's funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739323)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage

what kind of shit company is both hiring and laying off in the same shitty back office department?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739635)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: bright confused goyim

This shit happens at big banks. 30 person team and 19 people have left or been terminated in the last 5 months. I don’t understand why it happens, but it does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739673)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

When he ignores the busy work, start copying more senior people on it. Then re-send the email to him, still copying the same people, once every few days until it gets done.

"[Junior associate], can you handle X? See attached. Thanks for your help."

Two days later:

"[Junior associate], can you let me know your status on X? Would like to wrap this up by close of business tomorrow. Thanks."

Two days later:

"[Junior associate], I still have not heard from you. Please come to my office so we can discuss your plans for handling X."

Eventually he either takes care of the busywork, or he keeps ignoring you and looks like a poor communicator/someone who isn't a team player.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739241)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

This is a good answer but could also reflect poorly on the OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739265)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

Exactly. Snitches get stitches. I personally don't view it as an option and I think the corporate environment somewhat reflects that. Gotta handle it myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739274)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: chartreuse angry reading party

(Frank Grimes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739295)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

Yeah, this is a bit too passive aggressive for my taste. I'd explicitly tell the junior (probably in person) that he needs to step up, and then if he can't get his shit together, talk to someone more senior (again, probably in person). I hate the whole "copy someone senior" thing as a means of getting someone to stay in line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739287)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:10 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

Worked for me, but admittedly I haven't worked in a small office in a long time (I have mostly worked in big corporate environments where there are lots of people, they're sometimes located at different offices, etc.). Small office environment makes this tricky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739316)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

I see it done in big corporate environments too, I just don't find it effective. If you go into the guy's office and just tell him why you're pissed, that sometimes pays dividends because he not only changes his behavior but is glad that you pointed it out in a grown-up way without getting him in trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739346)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

Your mileage may vary, but in my experience it has been very effective. It might seem kinder to walk into someone's office and tell them verbally that there's an issue, but then there's no written record of it, and sadly lots of people won't change their behavior unless they know that the higher-ups are watching them closely.

Maybe you just work with more responsible people than I do. I work in DC, after all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739365)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

I guess it's more that I don't disagree with the technique in principle, but think there are better opening gambits you can try.

That could definitely be a DC thing, but have also found that it's less geographical than it is company-specific. And some people respond to that. When I was a junior I had someone call me in and tell me what I was fucking up (not just substantively, but in terms of interacting with others) and really appreciated that I didn't get in trouble over it and had the chance to fix it. If the junior just doesn't care then it doesn't really help, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739406)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

The DC thing was really intended as a joke, but it looks like it didn't land...anyway, I too would appreciate a verbal conversation instead of an email that has my boss cc'd on it, but not all people respond to those things. I think the OP already addressed this above--a friendly lunch chat is great for someone that you already get along with and that respects your wishes, but someone who is clearly gunning for your job probably won't give a shit about a friendly chat. Being nice isn't always the answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739666)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

"Being nice isn't always the answer" entirely agreed. The "copy the boss on emails" shit definitely does work when necessary. I just try to keep it further down on the list of options. Some people don't realize they're being assholes, but some people are just assholes and won't change.

EDIT: It didn't land as a joke because it's too fucking true. I've worked in DC. People are awful down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739689)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

yeah DC is atrocious. fucking backstabber striver city. that's why i document EVERY. SINGLE. THING. holy FUCK, you have NO FUCKING IDEA how much shit i document. if something is even slightly awry in any given case that i handle, i fucking send my boss a LONG ASS EMAIL in order to cover my ass. fuck, my blood pressure is going up just thinking about it.

i work in a position where we have to routinely work with several other affiliated companies and government entities. EVERYONE is always out to blame each other when something doesn't work out correctly. i think it's been about 48 hours since i sent a "cover my ass" email to my boss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739739)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:30 PM
Author: bright confused goyim

this. I've always been surprised how scared office workers are of doing this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739454)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

It's not a "scared" thing, it's a "getting shit done" thing. If someone doesn't respect your wishes when you delegate work to them via email, then they're very unlikely to respond to a verbal conversation. I've tried that tactic before, and it doesn't work for someone who routinely ignores your emails. Not sure what any of this has to do with being "scared."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739535)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

It's a "scared" thing because too many people who work in any form off office want to avoid any kind of confrontation. You and I are talking about a situation where an in-person discussion won't do anything (which I totally get), but lots of people wouldn't even want to consider an in-person conversation in the first place because they're terrified of having a face-to-face discussion involving telling someone that they're doing something you think is wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739722)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

I agree with you, but the pumo seemed to be implying that I personally am scared of speaking to others to resolve issues, which I thought was off-base because I speak to others on the phone all the time to handle problems. That's a huge part of my job.

Verbal conversations don't always accomplish what they are intended to accomplish. Sometimes being a dick and copying your superiors on an email to the person is the only option left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739744)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Useless kink-friendly sanctuary idiot

who would have imagine that a pumo had shitty advice...

Agreed. Copying superiors and starting to create a paper trail is sometimes the only option, especially if you want to make sure you can create a paper trail for why that person got fired/reassigned/executed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739768)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: bright confused goyim

obviously. But if you are on speaking terms with the person, an initial conversation before the passive aggressive emails would probably be a better move. It doesn't hurt anything and you can always create the paper trail after the next infraction.

How do you think these emails make you look to the people above you? It'd avoid if possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36740651)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

I'm Russian, I am very comfortable with in person confrontations. The only issue is whether it would accomplish anything. I dont do passive aggressive unless it is absolutely necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739751)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut

"I'm very comfortable with in-person confrontations, but am making every attempt to avoid confronting him in person"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743289)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: Chocolate vibrant location

Again, not that kind of a work environment, not that kind of a team. But I take your point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739269)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: pontificating psychic

Only cr ITT is from GITMO TP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739633)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: Histrionic buff police squad

Lmao can you imagine taking bitchwork orders from Mandy? Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36739783)



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Date: September 5th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: claret background story coffee pot

*train rattles by your desk as your prepare to unearth oil tank*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36748249)



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Date: September 3rd, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: fighting aquamarine stage

180 I hope this bro makes it. Fuck Mandy and her square husband. Will be 180 if this alpha bro puts these uptight dorks out of a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36740630)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut

ITT: A portrait of the inner workings of the modern working woman's mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743248)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Histrionic buff police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743250)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743305)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: ebony lodge crotch

lolcr. dude comes in ready for the good life of in house, first thing that happens is this awkward mid level russian bitch starts bossing him to do all her secretarial work. he takes this as graciously as possible and pushes back on the shit work while trying show her how he can genuinely be helpful on substantive matters. so she labels him a vicious backstabber rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743453)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: white erotic theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743468)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: tan philosopher-king juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36743537)



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Date: September 5th, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: Learning disabled hyperactive business firm new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36748253)



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Date: September 5th, 2018 12:41 AM
Author: Sooty talented coldplay fan fanboi

i bet this guy's a real hit with the ladies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36747863)



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Date: September 5th, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: Dark voyeur alpha

Assuming there is no ambiguity that you are his superior with managerial responsibility for his day-to-day actions, the correct way to address this is a variation of the above email suggestion. Send him emails outlining his responsibilities on specific projects, but DO NOT cc anyone else on the emails.

I know this will be difficult for you, but try to avoid awkwardness when writing the emails. Assume a friendly, conversational tone, referencing his assignments in general terms and the target completion time. If he continues to shirk his assignments, increase the specificity of your description of his assigned tasks.

Only after you have a giant stack of emails clearly and unequivocally demonstrating that he is avoiding his responsibilities and you have personally spoke with him on multiple occasions about your concerns should you voice a complaint to someone higher up. He may try to flip the narrative on you, but you will have documented everything up to that point. Regardless, if it does blow up, your manager will likely have every bit as much disdain for you as he dos for the kid. From your managers perspective, you will be part of the problem since you could not properly address it without getting him involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4065915&forum_id=2#36748095)