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13-year-old kid gets #MeToo'd by classmates, is arrested at school (link)

Boy, 13, Arrested, Cuffed And Dragged From School Over #MeTo...
stimulating infuriating den
  09/21/18
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Galvanic Drab Dysfunction
  09/21/18
terrible
Metal space
  09/21/18
if I were born 15 years ago I would have been sentenced to l...
Mahogany Charismatic Filthpig
  09/21/18
same I avoided this shit by four, maybe five years
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It’s amazing how quickly the culture went from Katy Perry’s ...
Slap-happy university sex offender
  09/21/18
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Galvanic Drab Dysfunction
  09/21/18
This country truly is fucked for our children.
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All of those children raised by helicopter parents finally c...
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Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel
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haha yeah same I had a lot of really sexy times in high scho...
Indecent lemon doctorate cuckoldry
  09/24/18
oh yeah. BIG TIME
Mahogany Charismatic Filthpig
  09/24/18
In Mao’s China, teenagers were the most enthusiastic about t...
Bateful Brunch Main People
  09/21/18
I keep telling people that this is most similar to Stalin's ...
apoplectic juggernaut
  09/21/18
Probably why it warms my evil heart.
Swollen box office
  09/22/18
You probably don't know this either, but back in the day it ...
apoplectic juggernaut
  09/24/18
OH FORTUITOUS METEOR
sapphire hairless range french chef
  09/21/18
What's Keith's moniker?
hyperactive stead jewess
  09/21/18
Judge in a pink pussy hat sentencing Keith to 40 years in pr...
sooty abusive pistol multi-billionaire
  09/21/18
No, sentencing the kid to eleventy billion years in prison
aromatic insanely creepy tanning salon faggotry
  09/21/18
And the whole court room danced.
sooty abusive pistol multi-billionaire
  09/21/18
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Colorado Springs is the redneck right wing section of CO too...
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  09/21/18
why is this being reported on 'dangerous dot com'. it should...
gold floppy casino roommate
  09/21/18
Because it looks bad for libs?
Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel
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apoplectic juggernaut
  09/21/18
yea that was my point...
gold floppy casino roommate
  09/21/18
ty for ur service...
Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel
  09/21/18
because it didn't happen that way
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This is literally the world libs want and encourage for your...
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apoplectic juggernaut
  09/21/18
ftge and fuck libs too
razzmatazz wrinkle hall
  09/21/18
lmao i thought there was a publication ban on juvenile cas...
crimson macaca
  09/21/18
Damn his father must have been like 19 when Keith was born
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holy fucking shit
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https://fundly.com/defense-fund-for-keith-bailey-1
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i'd like to see it reported literally anywhere else first. n...
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stimulating infuriating den
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pretty believable, why don't liberals understand that childr...
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  09/21/18
Sharia now
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Bisexual National
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Any confirmation of this story? Couldn't find any
Zippy Base
  09/21/18
holy shit
arousing bull headed stage
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clitdick denounces fake news media on xo, immediately buys w...
Dashing rehab faggot firefighter
  09/21/18
Sounds much more believable than “Rosenstein wanted to wire ...
brass deer antler
  09/22/18
Lol this is their generation’s version of “10 year old break...
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brass deer antler
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In Russia the boys father would murder the girls father and ...
Swollen box office
  09/22/18
fucking LOL at anyone bringing a child into this world
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  09/24/18
Dad, plumber, is 32. u? 38, well-credentialed,still swiping...
Indecent lemon doctorate cuckoldry
  09/24/18
Good.
thriller toaster
  09/24/18
any verification yet this actually happened?
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  09/24/18


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Date: September 21st, 2018 5:47 AM
Author: stimulating infuriating den

Boy, 13, Arrested, Cuffed And Dragged From School Over #MeToo Allegations

It started off an ordinary day for eighth grader Keith Bailey until he was summoned by administrators into the vice principal’s office at a Colorado Springs, Colo. middle school. He was confused and shaken. Keith had never been in trouble at school before, save for one minor incident months ago when he made an inappropriate remark that a fellow student “looked like a school shooter.” This time, it was much more serious.

For over two hours on Wednesday afternoon, alone in her office, the vice principal grilled Keith. “He said they kept asking him the same things over and over. They were just intimidating him, asking him the same thing in different ways, asking what he did to these girls and why he did it to them. ‘Why did you do it, what did you do, when did you do it,'” Keith’s father, Dennis Bailey, says. “They were vague the whole time. They never asked anything specific.”

Only after the two hour inquisition did the school phone Keith’s parents to let them know he was being suspended. But before they did that, they called the police. By the time Keith’s father showed up at the school, his son was being cuffed and put into the back of a police car as a crowd of students stood by ogling the scene.

According to Keith and his family, it all started a week ago when Keith and his friends were sitting around his house talking about online anonymity. Keith decided to change his Snapchat avatar into a black Bitmoji character. One of his friends, a girl, immediately noticed and within minutes told him he needed to change it back. She said it was insensitive and racist for a white person to use a black character as an avatar. Keith, stubborn as any eighth grader, laughed it off and said he wasn’t going to change it. The next day at school the girl, according to Keith, then started telling everyone he was a racist. The harassment and accusations persisted for days. Other students began threatening to beat up Keith, saying they were going to jump him after school for being ‘racist.’ Then the girl and three other female classmates took it to the next level, appearing to take a page from the Feinstein handbook on how to destroy your political enemies, they appeared before the vice principal to accuse Keith of sexual harassment and assault stemming back to the summer.

Keith had been friends with two of the girls. They attended youth group together at their church. “They hang out all the time. If he had been maliciously touching them since back in the summer, then they wouldn’t be going out of their way to walk by our house to go to school together. They go to youth group together, they carpool together. To any reasonable person, I’d think that these allegations would be obviously ridiculous, but apparently there aren’t any reasonable people anymore,” Dennis says.

Keith is an A and B student, plays football, takes advanced math classes, is well-liked by his teachers, and loves attending church. One of the girls, according to Keith, identities as a “feminist.” “He’s pretty scared. I was scared. He was crying when they arrested him. We’ve never been close to anything like this. We don’t know anybody criminal. It’s not something we ever thought we’d have to do deal with,” Dennis, 32, who works as a plumber, says. “I think the whole political climate is what is motivating this. Anytime you disagree with somebody, now you accuse them of sexual assault and automatically they’re a victim and you’re a monster. It’s so highly publicized now, that’s just the answer.”

After the arrest, Dennis stayed back at the school while his son was taken to the police station to be finger-printed and have his mug shot taken. But neither school administrators nor the police would tell Keith or his parents the exact nature of the allegations. He was charged with unlawful sexual conduct and harassment, which comes with a maximum sentence of two years in a juvenile detention center, and the family must wait until a court date on Oct. 27 to learn what, exactly, the girls claim Keith did to them. But a clue emerged the night before when one of the girls’ parents phoned the Baileys.

“Her mother gave us a call and said she just found out that Keith had been inappropriately touching her daughter and she just wanted to let us know. She said, ‘I know Keith is a good kid, maybe he just went down the wrong path.’ She obviously believed her daughter. But she said it happened at the football game last week. The problem with that is, my wife was at the football game the whole time. My son was there with his girlfriend and my wife didn’t want him unattended, so she had eyes on him the whole time. My wife tells this girl’s mother, ‘that’s funny, I was there watching the whole time, he didn’t leave my sight and he was no where near your daughter,'” Dennis recalls. “He was hanging out with his girlfriend, he wasn’t running around molesting other girls.” The mother then changed the story, saying it must have been a different football game.

The Baileys have met with a lawyer and started a legal defense fund for their son. After Keith’s five day school suspension is up, the school has the option to extend it another five days, or to expel Keith entirely. But after the humiliation Keith suffered, his parents are already looking to enroll him in a new school. The other students, they say, already assume he is guilty after watching him put in the back of a police car.

“It blew my mind. my son is not even mature enough to have done anything like that maliciously. I don’t think it’s in his realm of mental capacity at this point in his life. That they are demonizing him as some sort of malicious predator blows my mind. I don’t even think his mind is capable of being predatory,” Dennis says.

The Crucible-like scenario has the Bailey’s reeling. “We are all on edge. I’m furious personally. I’m furious at these kids, and at their parents for allowing them to do something like this. I’m furious at the school for not even seeming like they are giving him a chance to defend himself, and the way they tried to intimidate him. It seems really shady how they wouldn’t call us until two hours after they started interrogating him,” Dennis says.

He sees the whole terrifying situation as trickling down from the way all the adults on television appear to be treating each other these days. “What 13 year old girl doesn’t love drama? I imagine that’s all they see it as. Let’s stir up some drama. What they don’t realize is now he is facing criminal charges. I hope these girls did this without truly understanding the repercussions of their actions. I think the #metoo thing has gotten played out so much, that they see it as a way to get what they want. It’s a quick way to demonize somebody. I hope they didn’t foresee what the actual ramifications would be.”

https://www.dangerous.com/49605/boy-13-arrested-cuffed-and-dragged-from-school-over-metoo-allegations/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855471)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:07 AM
Author: Galvanic Drab Dysfunction

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855489)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:12 AM
Author: Metal space

terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855493)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:14 AM
Author: Mahogany Charismatic Filthpig

if I were born 15 years ago I would have been sentenced to life in prison already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855499)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:26 AM
Author: Vivacious violent famous landscape painting

same

I avoided this shit by four, maybe five years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855509)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:37 AM
Author: Slap-happy university sex offender

It’s amazing how quickly the culture went from Katy Perry’s “Last Friday Night” to this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855521)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: Galvanic Drab Dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855618)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:28 AM
Author: Lascivious bossy garrison cumskin

This country truly is fucked for our children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855623)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: Vivacious violent famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855686)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: electric hospital quadroon

All of those children raised by helicopter parents finally came of age. And female journalists, it turns out, love and completely agree with their "safety of my feelings first" philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856142)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: adventurous yellow alpha place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856318)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 8:54 AM
Author: apoplectic juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876102)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:38 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855522)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: Indecent lemon doctorate cuckoldry

haha yeah same I had a lot of really sexy times in high school and college and I mean a LOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876166)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Mahogany Charismatic Filthpig

oh yeah. BIG TIME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876627)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:19 AM
Author: Bateful Brunch Main People

In Mao’s China, teenagers were the most enthusiastic about throwing their “class enemies” off of buildings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855503)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:10 AM
Author: apoplectic juggernaut

I keep telling people that this is most similar to Stalin's USSR. It was an old Soviet purge tactic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855692)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Swollen box office

Probably why it warms my evil heart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862428)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: apoplectic juggernaut

You probably don't know this either, but back in the day it was a charge called "deviancy". Their favorite was homosexuality or some young girl claiming she was raped. It worked the same way too. Some random person comes forward. The charge was vigorously denied (after all, the person had no idea who this was). Then several others come forward, declaring they were "afraid to speak before." It keeps going until it is declared that they had no choice but to "act" to protect society and purge the party leader.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876107)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 AM
Author: sapphire hairless range french chef

OH FORTUITOUS METEOR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855523)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:46 AM
Author: hyperactive stead jewess

What's Keith's moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855532)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:50 AM
Author: sooty abusive pistol multi-billionaire

Judge in a pink pussy hat sentencing Keith to 40 years in prison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855540)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:51 AM
Author: aromatic insanely creepy tanning salon faggotry

No, sentencing the kid to eleventy billion years in prison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855542)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: sooty abusive pistol multi-billionaire

And the whole court room danced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855809)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: brass deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862402)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: Indecent lemon doctorate cuckoldry

Colorado Springs is the redneck right wing section of CO too - we are FUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876171)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:05 AM
Author: Trip public bath volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855682)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:09 AM
Author: gold floppy casino roommate

why is this being reported on 'dangerous dot com'. it should be frontpage news in every paper in america.

if a 1982 pool party is newsworthy, this certainly is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855687)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel

Because it looks bad for libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855694)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:13 AM
Author: apoplectic juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855698)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:17 AM
Author: gold floppy casino roommate

yea that was my point...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855705)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:30 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Trust Fund Chapel

ty for ur service...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855741)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: Passionate navy site

because it didn't happen that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856311)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Erotic Travel Guidebook Cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856324)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:15 AM
Author: Startled resort death wish

This is literally the world libs want and encourage for your children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855701)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:18 AM
Author: apoplectic juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855711)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:21 AM
Author: razzmatazz wrinkle hall

ftge and fuck libs too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855716)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:21 AM
Author: crimson macaca

lmao

i thought there was a publication ban on juvenile cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855718)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:26 AM
Author: Domesticated trailer park fat ankles

Damn his father must have been like 19 when Keith was born

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855731)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:29 AM
Author: Naked marketing idea station

holy fucking shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855737)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:44 AM
Author: Trip public bath volcanic crater

https://fundly.com/defense-fund-for-keith-bailey-1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855798)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:44 AM
Author: Pontificating fragrant double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36855800)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: crimson macaca

i'd like to see it reported literally anywhere else first. not that i would contribute to this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856154)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: stimulating infuriating den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856244)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: Peach Razzle Plaza Gaping

pretty believable, why don't liberals understand that children imitate things going on around them / maliciously pushed by the corrupt media, as even plumber guy can point out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856212)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Zippy Base

With plummeting sperm counts from exposure to plastics, rape hysteria and race mixing propaganda created by libs, whites will be extinct before the end of the century.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856256)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Swashbuckling property

Sharia now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856286)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Bisexual National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36877633)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: Zippy Base

Any confirmation of this story? Couldn't find any

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856302)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: arousing bull headed stage

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856327)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Dashing rehab faggot firefighter

clitdick denounces fake news media on xo, immediately buys wholesale an article on the internet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36856351)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: brass deer antler

Sounds much more believable than “Rosenstein wanted to wire trump”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862406)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Slap-happy university sex offender

Lol this is their generation’s version of “10 year old breaks 8 year old’s neck imitating moves he saw on WWE”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36858442)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 8:36 AM
Author: razzmatazz wrinkle hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862221)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: brass deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862407)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: Swollen box office

In Russia the boys father would murder the girls father and because everyone knows that this is how it would end retarded shit like this doesn’t happen. Law courts my balls — the threat of good old fashioned murder is what keeps shit civil. Yankees don’t have the balls for a right and proper killing so this is what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36862420)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: mind-boggling self-absorbed sanctuary

fucking LOL at anyone bringing a child into this world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876128)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: Indecent lemon doctorate cuckoldry

Dad, plumber, is 32. u? 38, well-credentialed,still swiping desperately on bumble 4s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876163)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: thriller toaster

Good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36876622)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: adulterous corn cake twinkling uncleanness

any verification yet this actually happened?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082949&forum_id=2#36877586)