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Is no one in USA smart enough to figure out logistics of brokered secession?

I know the geo boundaries are challenging, the economic and ...
Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce
  09/21/18
Lol it would be lulzy as fuck to watch a trumpmo state colla...
cerebral pale garrison messiness
  09/21/18
sure. cons would say the same about watching every northeast...
Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce
  09/21/18
Well you guys get the blacks. Not us.
cerebral pale garrison messiness
  09/21/18
How do you figure?
Mischievous Out-of-control Market
  09/21/18
AL/MS/LA/GA
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
Won't the blacks just emigrate to the non-racist Democratic ...
Mischievous Out-of-control Market
  09/21/18
Spaceporn pls respond. Surely the lib state wouldn't deny be...
Topaz gay wizard orchestra pit
  09/21/18
And surely they wouldn't enforce borders
Mischievous Out-of-control Market
  09/21/18
I imagine we'd maintain some sort of dual citizenship or EU-...
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
...
diverse death wish legal warrant
  09/21/18
I think the only people who will uproot themselves are the w...
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
depends how it goes down. when they split india to create p...
Hairraiser Overrated Rigor
  09/21/18
Interesting, were people already mostly sorted geographicall...
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
I'm not sure about that.
Mischievous Out-of-control Market
  09/21/18
People are content, plump, and isolated. There would need to...
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
...
exhilarant buck-toothed fortuitous meteor sweet tailpipe
  09/22/18
Obviously
Tan Karate
  09/21/18
lmao
Hairraiser Overrated Rigor
  09/21/18
Yea liberia
Topaz gay wizard orchestra pit
  09/21/18
...
lascivious misanthropic home generalized bond
  09/21/18
...
puce adventurous travel guidebook
  09/21/18
...
soggy nibblets locus
  09/21/18
idk but it needs to happen. the biggest fight would be over...
Hairraiser Overrated Rigor
  09/21/18
when is the last time a lib came within 1000 feet of "a...
turquoise heady principal's office
  09/21/18
(freshman poli sci 101 masterman)
bright sadistic half-breed station
  09/21/18
(guy staying together for the kids)
Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce
  09/21/18
good keeds
bright sadistic half-breed station
  09/21/18
We will preserve the Union
Unhinged Mustard Voyeur
  09/21/18
Libs would never agree to it because libs want to control yo...
Razzle Haunted Graveyard Rehab
  09/21/18
cr
Onyx Razzle-dazzle Range
  09/21/18
If there is a non violent collapse, I don’t see it necessari...
hyperactive talented meetinghouse affirmative action
  09/21/18
they would deal with
diverse death wish legal warrant
  09/21/18
this wont happen lmao
puce adventurous travel guidebook
  09/21/18
Keep in mind people now move all over the continent for GC. ...
Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce
  09/24/18


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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce

I know the geo boundaries are challenging, the economic and military issues daunting, and much of the divide is city/country, not state v. state...

But watching this public humiliation of Kavanaugh over shit everyone -- even Feinstein -- knows is untrue (and barely offensive IF true), merely because libs dont want to live under a conservative SupCt (and cons vice versa) has become intolerable.

Give the libs their damn country with open ingress and nine Sotomayors on the high court and a "credible accusation" standard for sex crimes, etc etc.

Some team of demographers and wonks and economists should be able to put together a proposal for the Split

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857395)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: cerebral pale garrison messiness

Lol it would be lulzy as fuck to watch a trumpmo state collapse on itself like Liberia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857401)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce

sure. cons would say the same about watching every northeastern city turn into Detroit.

point is, we both should be able to put our money where our mouth is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857409)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: cerebral pale garrison messiness

Well you guys get the blacks. Not us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857416)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Mischievous Out-of-control Market

How do you figure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857419)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus

AL/MS/LA/GA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857423)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Mischievous Out-of-control Market

Won't the blacks just emigrate to the non-racist Democratic States of America for all the gov't bennies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857434)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Topaz gay wizard orchestra pit

Spaceporn pls respond. Surely the lib state wouldn't deny benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857447)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Mischievous Out-of-control Market

And surely they wouldn't enforce borders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857453)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus

I imagine we'd maintain some sort of dual citizenship or EU-like system where the only thing borders control is laws rather than people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857490)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: diverse death wish legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859454)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus

I think the only people who will uproot themselves are the wealthy. Everyone else might relocate over a longer timescale, like decades though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857479)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Hairraiser Overrated Rigor

depends how it goes down. when they split india to create pakistan everyone uprooted pretty immediately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857494)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus

Interesting, were people already mostly sorted geographically based on religion though? That's also a much starker cultural difference than a US split would be. Plus people in the developing world are much more tied to their communities than we are. Will take people much longer to self-sort here IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857508)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: Mischievous Out-of-control Market

I'm not sure about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857510)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus

People are content, plump, and isolated. There would need to be a start QOL difference between the two americas before people moved en masse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857526)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: exhilarant buck-toothed fortuitous meteor sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36861303)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: Tan Karate

Obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857505)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Hairraiser Overrated Rigor

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857424)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Topaz gay wizard orchestra pit

Yea liberia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857421)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: lascivious misanthropic home generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857496)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: puce adventurous travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859441)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: soggy nibblets locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857403)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Hairraiser Overrated Rigor

idk but it needs to happen. the biggest fight would be over access to coastline and arable land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857418)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: turquoise heady principal's office

when is the last time a lib came within 1000 feet of "arable land?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859471)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: bright sadistic half-breed station

(freshman poli sci 101 masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857427)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce

(guy staying together for the kids)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857443)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: bright sadistic half-breed station

good keeds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857450)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: Unhinged Mustard Voyeur

We will preserve the Union

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36857518)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Razzle Haunted Graveyard Rehab

Libs would never agree to it because libs want to control you, not just have their own rules for their own life - otherwise, libs would be happy with federalism, but they're not. Even without Roe v. Wade, there is no way California is making abortion illegal, but it has never been about abortion in California, it has been about whether there can be abortion in Alabama or Texas, nevermind that 90% of people in Albama and Texas do not want it to be legal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859438)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Onyx Razzle-dazzle Range

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859461)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: hyperactive talented meetinghouse affirmative action

If there is a non violent collapse, I don’t see it necessarily being something agreed upon by Red America vs Blue America. I would expect something along the lines of the Soviet Union, where the central gov collapsed and each of its states became individual nations. Even then, how would states like PA deal would have a fun time dealing with the urban-rural cultural divide

Even if state government & law enforcement manage to figure out how to band up and create a Red America vs Blue America, good luck figuring out the logistics of industries. Both sides hold control over industries critical to living in the 21st century

There is far too much contempt on each side towards the other for any agreed upon secession to go smoothly. Should secession be attempted, it’s far more likely to be messy and probably bloody. Best case & least bloodiest scenario is that states become individual nations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859493)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: diverse death wish legal warrant

they would deal with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859496)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: puce adventurous travel guidebook

this wont happen lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36859746)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: Cordovan Chest-beating Stead Lettuce

Keep in mind people now move all over the continent for GC. It's not unworkable to say to people: if you support LGBT rights, move here! Signal your virtue!

If you want your kids to be taught about Jesus in school, move here! Be a good father!

People move for less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083194&forum_id=2#36876137)