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Thunder collins, did u listen to mckeweon's segment on the BL today?
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Date: December 11th, 2018 6:38 PM Author: dull university He had some interslesting thoughts on kansas state and its recent hire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391544) |
Date: December 11th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: dull university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391723) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Yeah, I mostly agree with him on the K-State coaching hire. Nebraska shouldn’t worry about any of the regional programs when it comes to recruiting and I think the idea that K-State is going to be a threat to Nebraska in recruiting is ridiculous. I would worry about Colorado getting its act together and keeping some of their better in-state players before I would worry about someone killing it recruiting to a shithole K-State program. That is a really hard place to recruit to and there is a reason it has historically been a terrible program.
Craig Bohl’s lack of success at Wyoming should give people pause when thinking that K-State’s new coach is going to automatically translate his success at a lower-level program to K-State. With that said, I don’t think it was that bad of a hire for them. There are only so many Jeff Brohm and Matt Campbell level coaches out there. This guy has built a program in North Dakota that could probably beat a lot of programs in the Big 12 right now. I think stylistically it could be interesting because K-State’s offense will be so different than the rest of the Big 12 it could make them hard to prepare for.
What do you make of the hire?
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/12/11/18133415/chris-klieman-kansas-state-coach
NDSU is 20th in the Sagarin ratings, which might be analytics’ best attempt to stack up every team in Division I. That’s better than every Big 12 team except Oklahoma and West Virginia. I think Texas would beat NDSU, but it’s fair to think 2018 NDSU could compete against the whole non-Oklahoma Big 12.
In 2016, I spent some time thinking for fun about how NDSU might fare in the Big Ten West and decided the Bison would be solidly average. FBS teams have basically stopped scheduling the Bison out of fear and risk management, as NDSU’s beaten six in their stadiums since 2010. That list includes K-State itself.
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: dull university i mostly agree with sam, especially w/r/t NDSU's resource advantages. i doubt klieman is even as good a bohl--he's kinda been solich to bohl's osborne. that said, i am interested to see if that type of ball control, power run offense can prove to be the antidote to big 12 offenses. army held OU to 21 pts in regulation by controlling the clock.
not too worried about the dude at CU. i don't think the saban approach works too well outside of places like bama and georgia that have yuuugee recruiting/geography/financial advantages. saban basically has figured out a formula for playing with biggest stack in a game of poker. it's worked pretty well for kirby smart b/c of georgia's home grown talent, but even there it's stubbed its toe when uga's gone up against comparably talented teams w/ half way decent coaching (auburn, bama, lsu). i dont think it will work at CU, especially if the guy has so little vision for the program that he's just gonna swallow a hold over OC. |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:38 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria K-State should have considered going the option route. They would be so different than the rest of the Big 12 that it could be an advantage. The power run offense that K-State wants to run requires some pretty dominant lines that I don’t know if K-State can develop. Look how much Stanford has regressed and how inconsistent they can be despite getting elite OL recruits every year. I agree with your assessment of the Colorado coach. He is supposed to be a good recruiter, but who knows if it is because he is recruiting the top kids in Georgia to Georgia. Recruiting to Colorado is very different.
Ultimately, Frost has the chance to create a real identity for Nebraska. Nebraska could become the Chip Kelly-era Oregon of the Midwest that kids from all over want to play for. We are already starting to see that with Wandale Robinson turning down Ohio State and Alabama for Nebraska. If that happens, fighting with K-State over marginal 3-stars is not going to be a big concern.
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: dull university agree re: the option. jeff monken or willie fritz would've been a good hire.
nebraska's on the right track, for sure. it'll just take a few years |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Agreed. Schedule for next year makes me optimistic they will take a big jump. Just pray for Martinez's health. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391936) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Have you been listening to the Pick 6 podcast? They have used my questions like 5 times now during the Q&A section. I am starting to suspect I am one of only 20 people listening to the podcast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391772) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: dull university not really. that's awesome. what have you asked? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391829) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria A bunch of different stuff. I recently asked what the defensive profile of the team needs to look like for Nebraska to win at the level of Chip Kelly's Oregon teams. I know you aren't sold on their defense either and I question how much better it is going to get over time. Do they need to be top 50? top 20? Can they give up 400 and 28 a game and win? It seems like Frost is just planning on outscoring everyone and as long as the defense is forcing some turnovers it is all good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391930) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:45 PM Author: dull university i did hear that question. i think they said they need top 20 to be elite? what i didnt like abt their answer was that they assume coaches would pitch defensive recruits by saying the D is just supposed to compliment the O and get some take-aways. i dont think that's an inspiring pitch. i think you need to sell a vision of being a great D that has its own unique identity, not a D that's a sidekick to the the O. hopefully the coaches aren't using the pitch sam described (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37391976) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria They said they didn’t have to be elite to win big and didn’t need to be in the top 20. I think Sam just pulled that recruiting angle out of his ass and it is not based on what coaches are saying. I think the way you recruit is saying you will be part of a hyper-aggressive 3-4 that is going to attack and you can be part of one of the best defensive traditions in football playing for. a program that has put a ton of players in the NFL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37392013) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:50 PM Author: dull university "hyper-aggressive 3-4 that is going to attack". this is good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37392033) |
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Date: December 13th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: dull university Erin sorenson is dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37403980) |
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Date: December 13th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Legit mouth breather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37404815) |
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Date: December 18th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: dull university Boring this week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4154119&forum_id=2#37428799) |
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Date: December 18th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Yeah, no real news to discuss right now. Unless they land 1-2 good pass rushers in January, defensively this is a pretty weak class outside of inside LB.
Frost is really flipping the roster. If they sign 30 kids plus another 20 recruited walk-on players, they will have added over 100 players in two years while purging the roster. He is definitely making it his team, but it is going to take some time for the team to develop. He is thinking long term. God damn Riley screwed Nebraska over, his recruiting classes are practically all gone now. |
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Date: December 18th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: dull university yeah, they were all hired guns being sold a line by the keith and donte williams. had no business coming to nebraska
will be interesting to see what bunch does. imo, he's too slow to be a good a back up; would rather have vedral or mcaffery |
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Date: December 18th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: appetizing mother school cafeteria Exactly, both of those guys only cared about their brand. TBF, I bet they would have killed it recruiting for Frost.
Don’t care what Bunch does, if they have to go to their third string guy they are in big trouble anyway. Can’t imagine Mcaffery plays worse than Bunch, who looked like pure garbage last season. |