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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:28 PM Author: turquoise low-t nursing home President Donald Trump directed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, according to two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.
Trump also supported a plan, set up by Cohen, to visit Russia during the presidential campaign, in order to personally meet President Vladimir Putin and jump-start the tower negotiations. “Make it happen,” the sources said Trump told Cohen.
And even as Trump told the public he had no business deals with Russia, the sources said Trump and his children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., received regular, detailed updates about the real estate development from Cohen, whom they put in charge of the project.
Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying about the deal in testimony and in a two-page statement to the Senate and House intelligence committees. Special counsel Robert Mueller noted that Cohen’s false claim that the project ended in January 2016 was an attempt to "minimize links between the Moscow Project and Individual 1” — widely understood to be Trump — "in hopes of limiting the ongoing Russia investigations.”
Now the two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement.
The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.
This revelation is not the first evidence to suggest the president may have attempted to obstruct the FBI and special counsel investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.
But Cohen's testimony marks a significant new frontier: It is the first known example of Trump explicitly telling a subordinate to lie directly about his own dealings with Russia.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 10:16 PM Author: Dull fortuitous meteor clown REMINDER: OP is a WLMAS sock puppet account, #32 on the confirmed list: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4167334&mc=12&forum_id=2 |
Date: January 17th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: turquoise low-t nursing home Trump might be fucked if this part is true:
"The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office."
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:25 AM Author: Glittery brethren ROFL yeah HER will for sure now be elected POTUS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614432) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:48 AM Author: frisky abode You mean Nancy? No, she won't be elected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614557) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:20 PM Author: Glittery brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614824) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 8:23 AM Author: Seedy corner private investor This is it. Shows over folks. If the president conspiring to lie to congress to cover up an investigation of the President isn’t impeachable then wtf is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37613735) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 8:25 AM Author: salmon diverse faggot firefighter I'm sure Trump, who has definitely been shown to LOVE emails, absolutely sent incriminating instructions via email without giving it a second thought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37613741) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 8:30 AM Author: Orange electric feces sandwich Cr. I’m sure the emails referred to are just internal emails showing the negotiations continued. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37613761) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:48 AM Author: Glittery brethren This crap is why Trump will win again in 2020 by a yuge margin. I can't wait to see all these liberal pundits go crazy with anger and rage when he gets re-elected. They will explode! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614559) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:24 AM Author: Glittery brethren Oh no! HER will be president now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614420) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:49 AM Author: frisky abode This could all be bullshit.
If it is not all bullshit, Cohen could still be the only witness.
In either of those cases, it doesn't matter.
If it is not all bullshit and Cohen is not the only witness, then Trump is fucked. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:07 PM Author: Translucent Sound Barrier Station thanks for the hot take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614693) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: frisky abode its merely a warm take, my dude. a hot take would be TRUMP IS FUCT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614741) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:53 AM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner Not a "cohen" expert - does he record a lot of stuff later seized by the feds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614593) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: frisky abode lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614658) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:11 PM Author: salmon diverse faggot firefighter Isn't he already known to lie and perjure? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614722) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: French grizzly lodge messiness (Sarah Huckabee Sanders) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614781) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: salmon diverse faggot firefighter Y'all need ta git yer TDS in check (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614809) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Yeah, was lying and perjuring on tapes he secretly recorded of conversations with clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614799) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Bespoke partner If these allegations are true and supported by clear and convincing evidence would anyone argue that he shouldn’t be impeached and removed?
It’s not slam dunk collusion (although it implies it) but is still pretty damn bad itself imo. Cohen is a liar though so they’ll need a lot more than his testimony. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Since when is it a crime to lie to Congress? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614805) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1621 |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: French grizzly lodge messiness Where does it say in the constitution that a Golden Retriever CAN'T be elected to SCOTUS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614830) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner I doubt any XO trump supporters would ever turn against Trump, under any circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614889) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:31 PM Author: Titillating spruce ticket booth associate Only if he Executive Ordered open borders, which ironically would save him with the GOP establishment that favors illegal immigration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614900) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:35 PM Author: Nudist transparent university LOL obeezy. Great “retirement” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614926) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: Glittery brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614936) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: Glittery brethren Obeezy, you are a sick puppy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614941) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: Nudist transparent university He is off the reservation crazy. It’s great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614952) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner https://static.spin.com/files/120511-yorke-modeselektor-640x426.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614971) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Nudist transparent university You’re so shitty at sockpuppeting you couldn’t even last a week. Fucking hilarious. Just go back to the obeezy moniker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614985) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner https://static.spin.com/files/120511-yorke-modeselektor-640x426.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614993) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614950) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:51 PM Author: Jet Startling Mad-dog Skullcap Constitutional precedent has determined perjury is not an impeachable offense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615382) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:30 PM Author: Light naked kitty school the allegation against Trump isn't that he perjured anything. It's that he obstructed justice by instructing someone else to commit perjury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37618605) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:29 PM Author: big maize property legend So now hearsay that Trump told him to say March instead of January or whatever the fuck this is about is collusion? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614884) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: Glittery brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614892) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:31 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor Maybe not, but it's a high crime. LJL fags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614897) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: Misanthropic Galvanic Corn Cake Clinton got got on something 100% unrelated to whitewater. If this is legit trump could be in jeopardy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615003) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:09 PM Author: Khaki vivacious chapel You’re right it was a crazy time when Gore took over in ‘99 after Clinton got got (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615896) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:32 PM Author: Misanthropic Galvanic Corn Cake good point - i am skeptical that the senate will remove him unless there is something really compelling. having said that, there is a difference between clinton directing lewinsky to perjure herself in a civil case and trump telling cohen to lie to the feds in a criminal investigation.
this is all probably moot because buzzfeed's story was likely bullshit. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor LJL
On Fox News Channel, White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said that the BuzzFeed story was "absolutely ludicrous," but he repeatedly refused to deny the central allegation: that Trump directed Cohen to lie.
One of Gidley's interviewers noted at one point: "That was not a denial of my question." |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: Glittery brethren OH WELL IF ONE OF THE MSM (((INTERVIEWERS))) SAID SO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614946) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor "On Fox News" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614953) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Glittery brethren You mean the FoxNews that paid that stupid wench Megyn Kelly?
The FoxNews that POTUS called out for anti-Trump bias?
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/646716373473853442?lang=en |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: shimmering dashing mad cow disease factory reset button https://twitter.com/JonPainterPhoto/status/1086294129045397504 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614966) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615000) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: Crusty supple idea he suggested nowag GIULIANI SAYS REPORT THAT TRUMP ASKED COHEN TO LIE FALSE: CNN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614973) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Glittery brethren Obeezy done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614989) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner Oh well if rudy says (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37614997) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615002) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615068) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: bronze heaven becky GULIANI: Trump didn't ASK Cohen to lie, he TOLD Cohen to lie, I don't see what the big deal is here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615028) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:17 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner JOHNNY COCHRAN SAYS OJ DIDN'T DO IT: CNN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615179) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: Crusty supple idea he suggested nowag https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1086314773833281542
Rudy is actually denying the BuzzFeed story now: "Any suggestion – from any source – that the President counseled Michael Cohen to lie is categorically false." |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor Shit if Rudy says so then we need a wall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615010) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:49 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner *mueller looks up from notes*
"Shit fellas rudy says trump is innocent so I guess we are done here lets close up shop." |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: Nudist transparent university Damn obeezy, does this ever get embarassing for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615024) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner https://static.spin.com/files/120511-yorke-modeselektor-640x426.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615027) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles this is an impossible crime the attorney says simply no any communication from the client to the attorney is privileged if the attorney followed such directive, the attorney alone should be culpable |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:51 PM Author: rambunctious provocative gunner Hi Rudy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615029) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615073) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:14 PM Author: frisky abode when was your head injury and did you have a normal iq before that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615163) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:26 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles do we have any fucking legitimate problem with my post? this place is full of shithead non lawyers any lawyer knows i'm right. your duty is to your client. if a client asks a lawyer to break the law 1 you don't 2 you treat it as a hypothetical request 3 you withdraw if it is sincere 4 you never ever testify against your client under these circumstances. if you do, you should lose your license permanently
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: frisky abode have you ever heard of the crime fraud exception?
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/201/682/2481895/ |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:53 PM Author: Jet Startling Mad-dog Skullcap A crime or fraud has to be committed first. If Cohen said he wouldn't lie, then there is no crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615389) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:38 PM Author: frisky abode wait a minute if you ask someone to testify falsely and they say no, there's no crime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615710) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:30 PM Author: Jet Startling Mad-dog Skullcap You are assuming Cohen testified falsely. As an attorney, he could not.
No Cohen perjury means no crime or fraud means Trump's ask was privileged. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:31 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor He's already pled guilty to perjury you dumb fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616033) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:50 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616121) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:31 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles was it the perjury trump sought? even if it was, how do you prove trump knew that when he asked when his own fucking attorney went ahead with it? just one more example as to why trump should get nowhere near anyone questioning him |
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 9:42 AM Author: frisky abode so in your opinion if i commit a bank robbery at the Chase bank at 34th SW street and Washington with a colleague, I do not suborn perjury if I tell him hey, don't say nothing about what happened OR I say tell them that we didn't rob the grocery store, you know what i mean, that's fine? I would literally have to tell him "do not tell them we robbed the Chase bank at 34th SW street and Washington"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37646191) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 2:27 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles try again this is about a lawyer/client relationship which brings in all kinds of confidentiality aspects. your situation does not. this is about a request from someone who has no power over the other and who has a duty to not betray the person with less power.
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:49 PM Author: frisky abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37617066) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:48 PM Author: frisky abode "You are assuming Cohen testified falsely. As an attorney, he could not."
what the actual fuck |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 11:32 PM Author: Light naked kitty school 180 lifehack: get law degree, pass the bar, lie all the time with impunity because, as a lawyer, it is impossible to lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37618629) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 11:56 AM Author: frisky abode or 120 life restriction, get admitted to the bar, try to lie, find out it is impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37626056) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:46 PM Author: At-the-ready charcoal state It depends. In the atty-client context, an ask isn't always a crime.
Edit: or at least anythkng that breaks privilege. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:29 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Apparently there is e-mail, so Cohen probably replied “Will do!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616024) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:50 PM Author: Translucent Sound Barrier Station trump has never used email in his life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616120) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:51 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Probably a memo to file, like his recordings, so he could turn on Trump if needed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616127) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:50 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story How many lawyers do you think Trump has to go through before he found Thomas M. Cooley graduate, Michael Cohen?
I’m with you and would never lie to the government on behalf of a client. But lol at Cohen having any idea what the ethical rules are or even how privilege works.
But Cohen’s retardation is what makes this an entirely plausible crime. Which, by the way, he’s pled guilty to and is completely violating the ethical rules to give complete cooperation to Mueller. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:45 PM Author: Magical Ratface Main People NY State bar seemed to think Cohen was qualified to practice law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616100) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:52 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story What a scholar! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616131) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:24 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor You're confusing ethics law with criminal law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37615993) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story Yeah, Cohen is gonna be in big trouble with the state disciplinary committee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616020) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:44 PM Author: shimmering dashing mad cow disease factory reset button given the Cooley stats you posted earlier, I don't think "lawyer" ethics rules and confidentiality issues apply anyways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616093) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:42 PM Author: tantric dog poop party of the first part Agreed. His argument is that the witness's status as an attorney precludes subornation because the attorney has ethical responsibilities to the client and should know better. It's ridiculous. You can flip the positions around and get the same result. If a guy commits perjury he cannot then claim as a defense that his attorney told him to do it. The attorney's ethical violations and own criminality would not preclude perjury by the client. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616086) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:45 PM Author: shimmering dashing mad cow disease factory reset button he's not a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616098) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:47 PM Author: tantric dog poop party of the first part You're right in that it doesn't matter whether he was trump's lawyer or not. He was a witness who lied under oath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616107) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:46 PM Author: Magical Ratface Main People What if the convo went like this?
Trump: is this legal?
Come: yes.
Trump: then do it.
In that case couldn't Trump claim he relied on advice of counsel? |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:05 PM Author: internet-worthy disturbing queen of the night background story One weird trick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616171) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 5:25 PM Author: Seedy corner private investor NO. JFC advice of counsel is not a defense to a fucking crime people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616620) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:49 PM Author: frisky abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37617063) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 10:36 PM Author: Magical Ratface Main People Google mens rea faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37618333) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 11:57 AM Author: frisky abode protip: do not google "mens rea faggot" with safe search turned off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37626060) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:37 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles it sure as fuck can be when the mens rea at issue could be affected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37617004) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:36 PM Author: lemon sweet tailpipe fat ankles The American Bar Association tried to limit the potential for the government to call lawyers to testify about their clients in its Model Rules of Professional Conduct. A provision of Rule 3.8, which deals with the “special responsibilities of a prosecutor,” prohibits subpoenaing a lawyer for information about a client unless the prosecutor reasonably believes it is not privileged, it is essential to the case and “there is no other feasible alternative to obtain the information.” Putting the protection in the ethics rules is a backdoor means to regulate how often prosecutors can pursue lawyers for information about their clients because the provision is adopted by the courts in each state, not the legislature. Moreover, a 1998 rule, called the McDade Amendment, requires federal prosecutors to adhere to the rules governing lawyers “to the same extent and in the same manner as other attorneys in that state.” The rule could stymie an investigation because trying to compel a lawyer to provide information about a client puts the prosecutor’s license to practice law at risk, something few would chance doing. The limitation on trying to obtain evidence about clients from their lawyers is only applicable to prosecutors, not defense lawyers or in private litigation, so it focuses on only one area that makes it more difficult for the government to pursue a case. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:43 PM Author: shimmering dashing mad cow disease factory reset button (needs a professional ethics CLE primer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616090) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:56 PM Author: Translucent Sound Barrier Station me too. lol lying to congress. it seems silly to impose a crime on one side but not the other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616139) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 6:08 PM Author: pink lay Trump can and should start prosecuting members of Congress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180175&forum_id=2#37616869) |
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