Indians REALLY Aren’t That Intelligent (On Average) [article on India's IQ]:
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Date: February 17th, 2019 2:11 AM Author: Wine Floppy Preventive Strike
seems reasonable enough:
Perhaps Surprisingly, Indians REALLY Aren’t That Intelligent (On Average)
Lance Welton • February 16, 2019 • 1,300 Words
India is a confusing place. It is able to send hordes of extremely intelligent and highly-motivated scientists to the USA, yet its city centres are so chaotic that tourists have to pay street urchins to throw themselves into the road just so that they can cross it. The land of the Hindus is pursuing its own space program, yet vast areas of the country lack electricity, running water, and even people who can read. What does this say about Indian IQ?
The late J. Philippe Rushton gave an answer to this question back in 2007: Indians Aren’t That Intelligent (On Average). But much more evidence has since been developed.
A country’s average IQ is a massively important predictor of national accomplishment and national average living standards, as Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen showed in their seminal 2012 book Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, as well as in their earlier book IQ and the Wealth of Nations.
For a few years now a German psychologist trained in political science called David Becker has been tracking down and collating every possible source that might permit assessment of any nation’s IQ. The young researcher, who is based at Chemnitz Technical University in East Germany (the city was known as Karl-Marx-Stadt under Communism) places all his research online so that those who criticise national IQ data can easily have their criticisms refuted. He clearly presents his methodology, in a way which Lynn did not, so that critics can see precisely what’s he’s done, how he’s done it and why: samples are rated for reliability, for example.
On this basis, Becker has also recalculated all of Richard Lynn’s much-denounced National IQs. Significantly, his calculations strongly correlate with Lynn’s—see the results at ViewOnIQ.org.
http://viewoniq.org/
As part of this project, Becker has also updated and recalculated the Indian IQ, the most recent known study of which was published in 2015 [Gender Performance on Intelligence Quotient Test among Medical Students in a Government Medical College, By B. Uppu et al., IOSR Journal of Dental and Medical Sciences, 2015]
Incredibly, considering all of the “Raj from The Big Bang Theory” types populating science departments at America’s top universities, Becker’s meta-analysis of 11 studies revises the Indian average IQ downwards. Lynn and Vanhanen calculated it to be 82.2, but Becker has found it to be a mere 76.24.
How can a country with an IQ only six points above that of Sub-Saharan Africa churn out scientists of such high calibre and even begin to take people into space?
The answer: it is not merely in the geographical sense that India is a subcontinent—defined as a large mass of land separated by mountains from the rest of the continent. It is also continent-like in terms of its population.
India and China both contain over a billion people, but in China those people are overwhelmingly of one ethnicity, Han, and speak one language, Mandarin. The situation in India could hardly be more different.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Language_region_maps_of_India.svg/480px-Language_region_maps_of_India.svg.png
The national languages are Hindi and (still) English. However, there are at least 780 distinct languages spoken in India, with most—though not all—of these languages being associated with a distinct ethnic group, rather as is the case with languages in Europe. Around 78% of Indians, and especially those in the north, speak Indo-Aryan languages that are distantly related to English, such as Hindi (41% of India’s population), Bengali (8%), and Gujarati(4.4%). Most of rest, particularly those in the South, speak Dravidian languages, such as Telegu (7.1%), Tamil (5.9%) and Kannada (3.6%). Some even speak language “isolates” unrelated to any other known language.(See Wikipedia’s List of languages by number of native speakers in India.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers_in_India
There are also about 225,000 Anglo-Indians—down from some 2 million at independence in 1947. These are native English speakers, and usually Christian, ultimately descended from a union between an English colonial and a (usually female) Indian. Over the centuries, Anglo-Indians have married each other, effectively creating an ethnic group .
India is divided into 29 states and 7 territories, many of these states are named after their dominant ethnic group and its language. And, crucially, there seem to be exceptional IQ differences between these states, paralleling the way in which southern India is rich and northern India is poor.
Richard Lynn and Indian psychologist Prateek Yadav explored differences in intelligence between Indian states in a study published in the leading journal Intelligence in 2015. [Differences in cognitive ability, per capita income, infant mortality, fertility and latitude across the states of India, By Richard Lynn & Prateek Yadav, Intelligence, 2015]. Drawing upon data from all 29 states plus 4 territories, they found a very clear pattern.
Southern India is markedly more intelligent than northern India; the correlation between latitude and their test of cognitive ability being -0.43. Even more significantly, coastal India is more intelligent than inland India, the correlation between closeness to coast and average intelligence being -0.60.
The most intelligent (on average) area is a territory called Daman and Dui, two islands that were part of Portugal’s historic Goa colony, seized by India in 1961. (American pundit Dinesh D’Souza is descended from Goanese converts to Catholicism). Unfortunately, the authors do not calculate IQ scores, merely presenting average scores on standardized school tests. These islands are followed, in average score, by Kerala, a southern coastal state. The least intelligent, and also poorest, India state is Bihar, an inland northern state, close to Bangladesh.
Helpfully, Lynn and Yadav tested a host of other variables, meaning they were able to reasonably hypothesize as to the causes of these differences. A key factor: Islam. Around 20% of India’s population is Muslim and the Muslims overwhelmingly live in the north. Indeed, the Muslims were politically dominant in northern India—building the Taj Mahal and other such achievements—until the British fully took control in the nineteenth century.
The correlation between the percentage of Muslims in a state and its intelligence was -0.32. The authors propose that a likely reason is inbreeding. Hindus tend not to marry cousins, but Muslims tend strongly to marry their cousins. Cousin marriage elevates the probability of double doses of mutant genes, meaning that the brain works less well, so intelligences starts to fall. The more inbreeding there is in a nation the lower its IQ tends to be [Inbreeding depression and IQ in a study of 72 countries, by Michael A. Woodley, Intelligence, 2009]
Coastal India, they suggest, is more intelligent because there will have been greater breeding with European traders. This is most obvious when we consider that the most intelligent part of India is two islands which were run by Portugal until 1961. (American pundit Dinesh D’Souza is descended from Goanese converts to Catholicism). We would also expect that ambitious and intelligent Indians born in the interior would be likely to migrate to the wealthy coastal towns. Intelligence predicts migration, as the eminent intelligence researcher Arthur Jensen noted in his 1998 book The g Factor.
It is perhaps no coincidence that the only Indian citizen to win a Nobel Prize in the hard sciences—Sir Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman who took the Physics prize in 1930 — was a Tamil from Madras. Madras is (where else?) on the southern coast.
It is India’s ethnic diversity which explains why it displays extremes: intellectual brilliance yet grinding poverty. This may be a problem for India, in that it is the population’s average intelligence—which predicts so much about the fate of nations. With its low average IQ, India is corrupt, unfair, and shambolic.
This is perhaps why so many highly intelligent Indians are desperate to come to the West—probably reducing India’s average IQ even further in the process, but certainly not improving the GOP’s chances.
http://www.unz.com/item/perhaps-surprisingly-indians-really-arent-that-intelligent-on-average/
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Date: February 17th, 2019 3:59 AM Author: burgundy abusive elastic band puppy
Article is white nationalist drivel and bullshit for the most part. First, India still suffers from high levels of malnutrition, once the country gets richer and people eat better the average IQ will increase by around 10 points or more. This has been shown all over the world in post WWII Europe, South Korea, etc. The brain does not develop fully in youth if children are not eating properly.
The points about Muslims and inbredding are correct but trying to tie in white nationalist garbage to coastal areas being higher IQ is laughable. The percent of people in Kerala or Goa with birdshit DNA is minuscule, even Anglo Indians have barely any British DNA left after centuries of intermarrying other Indians. Russell Peters is fucking Anglo Indian but he doesn't look fucking BIRDSHIT at all. The real reason a place like Kerala has higher IQ is that it has competent communist state governments for decades and they invested heavily in education. The Christian church there also set up numerous schools. Girls also got educated so you. Indian states in the North didn't invest in education.
As the US shows you just need a top 10% that is highly intelligent with IQ's above 110. India definitely has that as Brahmins are like 15% of the population. Popular to contrary belief most intelligent Indians don't leave the fucking country for good. There are fucking 3 million Indians in the US, that is not even fucking .3% of India's fucking total population. There are probably 200 million plus Brahmins and other higher castes who have IQ's north of 110 in India.
Once India gets more developed and its literacy rate reaches 99% (and not just some bullshit govt stats that say someone is literate if they can read their own fucking name) and people eat better then you can expect the average IQ to increase to around 100 or higher, which is around where BIRDSHIT countries are at but less than East Asian NOWAG places.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4203347&forum_id=2#37795558)
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Date: February 17th, 2019 4:46 PM Author: Citrine unholy queen of the night old irish cottage
Weird twist to your shtick
If only they had more food they'd have higher iq!!!
Lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4203347&forum_id=2#37798050)
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Date: February 17th, 2019 5:08 PM Author: Wine Floppy Preventive Strike
my buckwild uninformed theory of indian historical genetics based just on observation is something like the following:
WAY WAY WAY back in time - 50,000+ years ago - there was a large substrate population spread across much of south and southeast asia which would end up branching off into several variants. today, we'd recognize those variants as aborigines (the australian branch), melanesians in new guinea/solomons, the negritos/black islanders (seen in parts of the philippines, the andaman islands, etc.), the "backwards tribes"/adivasi groups of india, and the darker-skinned south indian groups like tamils.
over time, these groups underwent a lot of evolutionary divergence. in the case of negritos and aborigines, insular breeding patterns generated selection pressures which depressed g-factor (IQ) in exchange for more specific skills like sharp vision. we know that negritos lost a lot of technology over time, like the ability to sail. negritos used to live on taiwan, but by the time the taiwan aborigines wiped them out in the 1200's, they had become quite primitive, and had no way to sail back to mainland asia.
the ASI population described in that blog would represent the indian branch of this evolutionary process, which was subject to its own splintering and selection pressures. coastal ASI diverged from hill-tribe ASI. then once the invasions of non-dravidian groups began, further selection pressures were applied to southern coastal ASIs. the introduction of castes and subcastes created self-perpetuating breeding systems which selected for pair-making on the basis of class rather than simple familial ties.
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Date: February 17th, 2019 7:07 PM Author: burgundy abusive elastic band puppy
jfc, this BS that BLAH but its all the best moving to fuckin the US, half of desi americans are TRASH, they are uneducated gujus and violent punjabis that had NO education in india, literally were fucking shit villagers pipe raping fucking cows
but they go to a land of fat entitled birdshits and subhuman ape niggas and of course they fucking do well cause they have good business sense, close families that help them out and they are cheap mother fuckers who know how to take advantage of ppl unlike say little bitch japs
and just as easily as u cld whine that india is shit cause it has lots of poors u cld say india must have lots of smarts cause its building insane amounts of nice airports, subways, trains, infrastructure etc and has an immense amount of engineers and tech workers
but u wldnt do that cause ur a birdbrain birdshit incelt racist KKK faggot in ur mom's basement and all u have in life is ur bitter racist bullshit cause u havent accomplished anything in ur stormfront fucking life, u dumb gay faggot
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Date: February 17th, 2019 7:34 PM Author: Balding Passionate Dilemma Kitty Cat
jfc, lol.
and in other earth-shattering news, water is wet
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Date: February 17th, 2019 7:38 PM Author: up-to-no-good point
*worships cow while babies starve*
*poops in the street*
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Date: February 17th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: metal obsidian dopamine
tommy triggered as fuuuuuuck ITT despite thr fact that hes a self hating indian who doesnt even live in INDIA or have an indian PASSPORT
LOLLERCAUST.
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