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The SAT and the ACT were compromised

that's the gut punch here. we all knew college admissions we...
Bonkers Iridescent Market
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lmfao
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know-it-all national security agency
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red locale
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godawful diverse blood rage
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Howd they do that? Get someone to take the test for their k...
Obsidian Dilemma
  03/12/19
How did the SAT/ACT scheme work? Numerous parents paid Si...
Bonkers Iridescent Market
  03/12/19
Former Harvard Tennis player Mark Riddell, crushing standard...
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Stubborn Crackhouse
  03/12/19
women never not being whores
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honey-headed out-of-control whorehouse
  03/13/19
Jfc
silver patrolman
  03/12/19
combination of sham "disabilities" and compromised...
talented therapy piazza
  03/12/19
Jfc they got to the Proctors
Obsidian Dilemma
  03/12/19
The had two test stations with crooked proctors. They would...
Hideous light church building
  03/12/19
Unreal
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arousing national private investor
  03/13/19
Just imagine if schools were gaming the USNWR rankings, anot...
Big Ladyboy
  03/12/19
stuffwhitepeoplelike: pretending they live in meritocratic f...
Wild lavender gas station
  03/12/19
Do you think you would have done well in a confucian exam sy...
bearded titillating abode weed whacker
  03/12/19
comparisons between MERITOCRATIC first world admissions and ...
Wild lavender gas station
  03/12/19
You know they started doing this because of MASSIVE AZN CHEA...
Hideous light church building
  03/12/19
meritocratic education is why our kids literally crush the P...
Wild lavender gas station
  03/12/19
yet you went to shitty NYUUG
Crawly sapphire theatre
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its the best my third world american education could do for ...
Wild lavender gas station
  03/12/19
massive azn cheating? lol. most of those indicted in this on...
Charcoal Space
  03/13/19
(Guy who flunked the TOEFL)
godawful diverse blood rage
  03/13/19
lol these cheating scandals have happened in Asia several ti...
vengeful theater lettuce
  03/12/19
(guy who thinks the korean SAT is compromised) and no, im...
Wild lavender gas station
  03/12/19
The extremely expensive and involved methods used by Aunt Be...
Hideous light church building
  03/12/19
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bearded titillating abode weed whacker
  03/12/19
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silver patrolman
  03/12/19
This shit happened in Russia with the YeGE which is the comm...
Adventurous sanctuary
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also, elite college classes are all compromised with "a...
Crawly sapphire theatre
  03/12/19
When did this disability racket start in earnest. I knew a ...
Obsidian Dilemma
  03/12/19
you can get 50% more time per section for ADHD apparently
vengeful theater lettuce
  03/12/19
Holy shit
Obsidian Dilemma
  03/12/19
Apparently it's quite easy to get the "disability"...
Big Ladyboy
  03/12/19
So basically every Jew gets extra test time
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Charcoal Space
  03/13/19
no, smart jews don't do this. but all the dumb ones do this....
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fiercely-loyal mind-boggling shrine incel
  03/13/19
yeah I looked through some reddit/forum posts for a bit on t...
vengeful theater lettuce
  03/12/19
OK, Emperor Shang Tsung
blue balding plaza tattoo
  03/13/19
guys, there's a world of difference between getting extra ti...
Bonkers Iridescent Market
  03/13/19
for the average xo iq (120-130) it would have about the same...
purple background story
  03/13/19
none of the wrong answers I got on the SAT or the LSAT were ...
Bonkers Iridescent Market
  03/13/19
yeah if you're super well prepared it's not gonna help much ...
purple background story
  03/13/19
Of course extra time helps what is this
silver patrolman
  03/13/19
lol cr especially on the LSAT
vengeful theater lettuce
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It helps a lot on the math section. SAT math is so easy the...
Spruce dysfunction
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I feel like I could have got 100% on the logic games section...
Maroon school cafeteria fat ankles
  03/13/19
no. there’s a world of difference between taking the t...
Razzle-dazzle affirmative action
  03/13/19
lol the turd nerd is DEVASTATED to learn that standardized t...
bearded trailer park faggot firefighter
  03/13/19
This is really different from just extra time
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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:31 PM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market

that's the gut punch here. we all knew college admissions were crooked. but the SAT and ACT being so easily corrupted is truly damning of our society. standardized tests are supposed to be paragons of integrity and fairness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921427)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: cowardly lime police squad doctorate

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921429)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: know-it-all national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921436)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:35 PM
Author: red locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921458)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:24 AM
Author: godawful diverse blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923077)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

Howd they do that? Get someone to take the test for their kid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921434)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:33 PM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market

How did the SAT/ACT scheme work?

Numerous parents paid Singer between $15,000 and $75,000 to have someone either take the SAT or ACT for their child, or to correct their answers afterward, Lelling said.

To achieve this, Lelling said, Singer would tell the parents to have a therapist say their son or daughter needed additional time to take the test because of “purported learning disabilities.” Once the testing companies agreed to allot the extra time, arrangements would be made to have the student take the exam individually with one of the bribed exam administrators in either Houston or California, Lelling said.

“At those test centers, Singer had established relationships with test administrators Niki Williams and Igor Dvorskiy, respectively, who accepted bribes of as much as $10,000 per test in order to facilitate the cheating scheme,” a statement from Lelling’s office said.

Then, Williams and Dvorskiy allowed a third individual, typically Mark Riddell, to take the exams in place of the students, to give the students the correct answers, or to correct the students’ answers afterwards. Singer typically paid Ridell $10,000 for each student’s test.

“He did not have inside info about correct answers. He was just smart enough to get a near perfect score on demand, or to calibrate the score,” Lelling said during the press conference, although it wasn’t immediately clear if he was talking about Singer or Riddell.

Singer would discuss with his clients beforehand what kind of score they were looking for on the exam, Lelling said, and then decide on an action from there.

“So if a client’s daughter took the SAT on her own the first time, and got a particular score, when retaking the exam, if her score goes up too much, that would invite scrutiny,” Lelling said. “Singer would discuss what kind of score was impressive but not too impressive, and then would instruct Riddell to attempt to get that score, and he was just good enough to do it.”

Lelling said that Riddell would either take an exam in place of the student, or correct answers after the student handed it in.

“That would be submitted to the college board or ETS [Educational Testing Service], or the ACT Incorporation, and it would just be scored under that person’s name,” Lelling said.

Interestingly, in some cases, parents said it was important that their child not know that their test was being doctored.

“In those instances, the student would take the exam, and someone working for Singer would come in afterward, correct enough of the answers, and submit the exam,” Lelling said.

Some, however, included their kids in the scheme.

“One particular defendant and his daughter were on a conference call with Singer to discuss the scam,” Lelling said, adding that there was a “pretty wide range of how parents tried to play this. Singer tried to accommodate whatever the parents wanted to do.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921440)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:40 PM
Author: pink underhanded house idea he suggested

Former Harvard Tennis player Mark Riddell, crushing standardized tests in his 30s and making teen girls swoon:

Alright, she loves the guy [CW-2] who took the SATs, she said. She said she started having heart palpitations but she said he was so sweet, he let me walk around the hallway. She said, “Can’t I take my SAT subjects with him?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921497)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:52 PM
Author: Crawly sapphire theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921570)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:55 PM
Author: Stubborn Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921589)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:29 AM
Author: Charcoal Space

women never not being whores

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37922664)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:26 AM
Author: honey-headed out-of-control whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923079)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:28 PM
Author: silver patrolman

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921787)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:34 PM
Author: talented therapy piazza

combination of sham "disabilities" and compromised proctors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921449)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:36 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

Jfc they got to the Proctors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921464)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:38 PM
Author: Hideous light church building

The had two test stations with crooked proctors. They would fly the student in to give them an individual testing session. The boards should ban this sick filth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921478)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:45 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

Unreal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921537)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:49 AM
Author: arousing national private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37922745)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:33 PM
Author: Big Ladyboy

Just imagine if schools were gaming the USNWR rankings, another institution that seemed incorruptible...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921439)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:34 PM
Author: Wild lavender gas station

stuffwhitepeoplelike: pretending they live in meritocratic first world countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921447)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:38 PM
Author: bearded titillating abode weed whacker

Do you think you would have done well in a confucian exam system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921481)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:46 PM
Author: Wild lavender gas station

comparisons between MERITOCRATIC first world admissions and sham third world admissions:

korean SAT literally forces every student across the entire fucking country to take the test at the exact same time - no students are allowed to take it at a different time or date

korean SAT literally forces all kids to stay within the test center and no bathroom breaks during the test

korean SAT literally immediately disqualifies all students who bring any sort of electronic device

korean SAT literally forces the fucking government and private business to modify their schedules to accomodate test takers

korean SAT literally recruits thousands of popo to guard centers

korean SAT literally forces kids to stay at the test center all day

korean SAT literally is 100% multiple choice

korean SAT literally is the only factor for university admissions, without softs or other bullshit cumskin machinations like "legacy" or "holistic admissions"

korean SAT literally forces every student in the country to start prepping for the korean SAT starting from elementary school

absolutely ruthless meritocracy that cumskins would, dont, and never would be able to handle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921543)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:47 PM
Author: Hideous light church building

You know they started doing this because of MASSIVE AZN CHEATING?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921547)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:51 PM
Author: Wild lavender gas station

meritocratic education is why our kids literally crush the PISA while america is ranked 30 or some shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921565)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:57 PM
Author: Crawly sapphire theatre

yet you went to shitty NYUUG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921604)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:58 PM
Author: Wild lavender gas station

its the best my third world american education could do for me. fortunately i copped dat SNU masters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921606)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 6:32 PM
Author: Charcoal Space

massive azn cheating? lol. most of those indicted in this one-of-a-kind scandal are WHITE. there is one azn and one turd. that's it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37926475)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:26 AM
Author: godawful diverse blood rage

(Guy who flunked the TOEFL)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923080)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:34 PM
Author: vengeful theater lettuce

lol these cheating scandals have happened in Asia several times, both on their own exams and the SATs

they hardly give the SAT in China, India and South Korea as a result

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921817)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:35 PM
Author: Wild lavender gas station

(guy who thinks the korean SAT is compromised)

and no, im not talking about the US SAT administered in korea, im talking about the korean college entrance exams aka korean SAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921823)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:35 PM
Author: Hideous light church building

The extremely expensive and involved methods used by Aunt Becky et. al. are nothing compared to the mass-scale azn cheating on these tests.

Also, the idea of giving extra time for "learning disabilities" is already compromising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921461)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:38 PM
Author: bearded titillating abode weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921476)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:24 PM
Author: silver patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921766)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:37 PM
Author: Adventurous sanctuary

This shit happened in Russia with the YeGE which is the commie equivalent of the SAT a few times. The Czar had all involved murdered. Problem solved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921468)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 9:52 PM
Author: Crawly sapphire theatre

also, elite college classes are all compromised with "accomodations" and this is an open secret and nobody is allowed to talk about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921573)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

When did this disability racket start in earnest. I knew a few back in my day but seems like its exploded now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921809)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:47 PM
Author: vengeful theater lettuce

you can get 50% more time per section for ADHD apparently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921892)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:53 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921933)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:57 PM
Author: Big Ladyboy

Apparently it's quite easy to get the "disability" extra time perk and there are many doctors willing to write the necessary paperwork. The only limit is the parents' willingness to cross ethical boundaries (or ability to convince themselves they're doing the right thing).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921961)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:59 PM
Author: Obsidian Dilemma

So basically every Jew gets extra test time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921970)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:30 AM
Author: Charcoal Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37922672)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:43 AM
Author: Crawly sapphire theatre

no, smart jews don't do this. but all the dumb ones do this.

parents got 1.5x time for my brother. i didn't need it and it would have bruised my ego to get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37922729)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 8:56 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal mind-boggling shrine incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923197)



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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:59 PM
Author: vengeful theater lettuce

yeah I looked through some reddit/forum posts for a bit on this, just find a doctor who says you have ADHD and get an extra 20 min per section ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37921977)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 2:07 AM
Author: blue balding plaza tattoo

OK, Emperor Shang Tsung

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37922791)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:09 AM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market

guys, there's a world of difference between getting extra time and HAVING THE PROCTOR CHANGE THE ANSWERS FOR YOU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923068)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:10 AM
Author: purple background story

for the average xo iq (120-130) it would have about the same effect

you wouldn't want your answers changed to a 1580 or something crazy that's too much heat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923069)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:17 AM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market

none of the wrong answers I got on the SAT or the LSAT were due to running out of time. extra time on the test would not have taught me new vocab words, sharpened my reasoning skills, or improved my reading comprehension.

in fact, with extra time I might have well gone back and overthought some questions and selected wrong answers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923071)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 7:19 AM
Author: purple background story

yeah if you're super well prepared it's not gonna help much

for the average moderately high iq kid who's winging it after a week of prep it'll help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923074)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 9:19 AM
Author: silver patrolman

Of course extra time helps what is this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923247)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 11:06 AM
Author: vengeful theater lettuce

lol cr especially on the LSAT



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923728)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 9:50 AM
Author: Spruce dysfunction

It helps a lot on the math section. SAT math is so easy the only way for a reasonably smart person to miss anything is to make a silly mistake, get a sign wrong, etc. Being able to triple check every answer = guaranteed 800 every time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923364)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: Maroon school cafeteria fat ankles

I feel like I could have got 100% on the logic games section with 50% more time. You can brute force more questions. Less critical on other sections but still would have helped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923978)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 9:20 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle affirmative action

no. there’s a world of difference between taking the test on the same terms as everyone else and lying/cheating to gain an unfair advantage. there’s a slight difference between getting extra time and having the proctor change the answers for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923253)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 9:24 AM
Author: bearded trailer park faggot firefighter

lol the turd nerd is DEVASTATED to learn that standardized tests can be gamed! the horror!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923265)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 11:34 AM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market

This is really different from just extra time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37923894)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 6:24 PM
Author: Bonkers Iridescent Market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219539&forum_id=2#37926447)