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D.C. housed the homeless in upscale apartments. It hasn’t gone as planned.

On Palm Sunday of last year, officers responding to a noise ...
180 address
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Don't they have poor doors in D.C.?
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Not on the buildings I toured. Very jarring to be greeted by...
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magic dirt
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"pot smoke in the air and feces in the stairwell"
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But sounds like it has gone as expected.
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That's pretty much what I would expect.
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Do they get free rent forever?
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She likened the dynamic to “The People Under the Stair...
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great movie. very john carpenter
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Can someone c/p the article here?
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We’re just gonna get more of this insanity as libs kee...
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lol this is a good one The SWAT team, the overdose, the c...
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this is the life libs want for you
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The people in this building literally voted for this.
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cr they want it for themselves too until unintended conseque...
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giving twice as much taxpayer money to the mentally unstable...
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Libs need to die
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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: 180 address

On Palm Sunday of last year, officers responding to a noise complaint encountered Robert Gingell, who according to a police report could be heard throwing objects around his third-floor apartment.

When they knocked on the door, Gingell allegedly said, “If you try to come into my apartment, I have a shotgun and will shoot all of you. I will pick you off one by one.”

A police tactical team filed through the historic carriage porch and across the limestone-and-marble lobby and set up a perimeter outside Gingell’s apartment, where he holed up until the next morning. Although no gun was found, Gingell was arrested. He was released — and then arrested again at Sedgwick Gardens two days later, accused of striking another tenant in the head with a flashlight.

Then there is the woman who moved in alone down the hall, who moans and screams incomprehensibly for long stretches of the day and night, who seems to badly need help she isn’t getting. On Christmas Day last year, Hardin said, she found her sitting by herself near the elevator. It seemed like a good time to try to establish a connection.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-housed-the-homeless-in-upscale-apartments-it-hasnt-gone-as-planned/2019/04/16/60c8ab9c-5648-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099536)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

Don't they have poor doors in D.C.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099559)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: exhilarant locus

Not on the buildings I toured. Very jarring to be greeted by a hot 23 year-old leasing agent while Shameeka shambles in with her five little niglets in tow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099588)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: thirsty multi-colored stead milk

magic dirt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099542)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:37 PM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

"pot smoke in the air and feces in the stairwell"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099562)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:44 PM
Author: Blue laughsome box office

Will be really sad when the magic dirt is suddenly discovered to have transmuted into tragic dirt just as the new arrivals settled in. A redlining of the human spirit to be sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099582)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:35 PM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

But sounds like it has gone as expected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099556)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:38 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist school main people

That's pretty much what I would expect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099567)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:52 AM
Author: Beady-eyed legend school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100495)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:08 AM
Author: French vigorous gunner



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: duck-like odious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099570)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:51 AM
Author: Racy doobsian office pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100491)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: mildly autistic menage

Do they get free rent forever?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099579)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 11:57 PM
Author: Galvanic indian lodge

She likened the dynamic to “The People Under the Stairs,” a 1991 kitsch horror movie in which a well-to-do couple live above a cellar filled with mistreated children.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099627)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:24 AM
Author: maniacal cruise ship

great movie. very john carpenter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099707)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:01 AM
Author: Brilliant diverse black woman

I don't understand where this bizarre idea came along that low income units should be a requirement for every development. Like if you build condos on the beach in areas that are unaffordable for doctors, you have to give away some of the units to janitors. Fucking bizarre logic.

Also, you have to read this article in connection with the Mall of America guy who pushed the 5 year old off the balcony. How is it fair to subject children, or even adults, to living on the same floor as this woman who is screaming to herself or the guy threatening to shoot everyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099642)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:14 AM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

The white man is a fucking devil, but he has a magic dusting of civility and achievement that rubs off on people of color who pass by in the corridors of schools and luxury apartments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099674)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:22 AM
Author: Mustard fear-inspiring garrison kitty cat



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:04 AM
Author: duck-like odious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100345)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:02 PM
Author: yellow wagecucks blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103966)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:25 AM
Author: maniacal cruise ship

poor people are no different than you and me

they've just had bad breaks in life

everyone is equal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099712)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 2:19 AM
Author: aphrodisiac native love of her life

Diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099913)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:27 AM
Author: cerise therapy alpha

Can someone c/p the article here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099714)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:35 AM
Author: abnormal senate jewess

We’re just gonna get more of this insanity as libs keep up their crap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099727)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:44 AM
Author: filthy talking marketing idea meetinghouse

lol this is a good one

The SWAT team, the overdose, the complaints of pot smoke in the air and feces in the stairwell — it would be hard to pinpoint a moment when things took a turn for the worse at Sedgwick Gardens, a stately apartment building in Northwest Washington.

But the Art Deco complex, which overlooks Rock Creek Park and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, is today the troubled locus of a debate on housing policy in a city struggling with the twin crises of homelessness and gentrification.

Located in affluent Cleveland Park and designed by Mihran Mesrobian — the prewar architect behind such Washington landmarks as the Hay-Adams Hotel — Sedgwick Gardens was once out of reach for low-income District residents.

That changed two years ago, when D.C. housing officials dramatically increased the value of rental subsidies. The goal was to give tenants who had previously clustered in impoverished, high-crime areas east of the Anacostia River a shot at living in more desirable neighborhoods.

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At Sedgwick Gardens, the effort met with wild success. As of February, tenants with city-issued housing vouchers had filled nearly half of the building’s roughly 140 units.

Mixed-income developments aren’t rare in the District, where officials often require that new buildings preserve some space for working-class residents.

But the situation at Sedgwick Gardens is different: Many of the new tenants are previously homeless men and women who came directly from shelters or the streets, some still struggling with severe behavioral problems.

The result has been a high-stakes social experiment that so far has left few of its subjects happy. Police visits to the building have nearly quadrupled since 2016. Some tenants have fled. In February, responding to complaints, the city began staffing the building with social workers at night to deal with problems that arise.

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Some tenants with vouchers say they have been made to feel unwelcome by their new neighbors, a dynamic that has unavoidable undertones of race and class in a largely white neighborhood.

More established tenants contend that they support the goals of the voucher program, but that it has gone badly awry at Sedgwick Gardens, transforming the building into a dumping ground for people unprepared to live on their own.

Even some Sedgwick Gardens residents who receive public assistance say the complex was colonized by the city’s housing programs too rapidly and without sufficient oversight.

“It’s not about the voucher program. It’s not about racism. It’s about people’s conduct and behavior,” said Lorraine Starkes, 61, a formerly homeless woman who moved into Sedgwick Gardens using a voucher about two years ago.

Starkes, who is black, said some of her fellow tenants with vouchers were not properly screened by city officials before moving in. Now, she said, those residents have overwhelmed her new home and “are trying to turn it into a ghetto.”

The drama within Sedgwick Gardens’s red-brick walls exposes challenges and contradictions in the “housing first” policies for reducing homelessness that have been adopted by the District and many other cities.

[D.C. has highest ‘intensity’ of gentrification, study finds]

That approach calls for placing the homeless in long-term housing without first requiring treatment for mental illness or addiction. Many experts say it is the best way to help people who have trouble helping themselves amid the chaos of homelessness.

But as housing first has emerged as a national policy consensus, some have begun to warn that it is being applied too broadly and at times with inadequate support for people who aren’t ready for the independence and responsibilities of living by themselves.

City officials insist those mistakes have not been made at Sedgwick Gardens, calling the disturbing incidents isolated cases.

“I think the reason the issues at Sedgwick Gardens came to a head is that there were a couple of residents that were causing a problem. That could have been true whether they had a voucher or not,” said D.C. Council member Brianne K. Nadeau (D-Ward 1), who chairs the council’s Committee on Human Services. “I want us to be careful not to demonize everyone who finds stable housing through a subsidy because not everybody who needs a subsidy is a criminal.”

Sedgwick Gardens is now nearly half-occupied with tenants who use housing-assistance vouchers. (Marvin Joseph/The Washington Post)

'My home's right here'

Built in 1931, Sedgwick Gardens rises on Connecticut Avenue NW less than a mile north of the National Zoo. Past an elegant stone carriage porch is a cavernous lobby, ringed by Moorish arches and featuring a fountain of marble and blue tile, that could be the setting for a scene in a Raymond Chandler novel.

Until recently, the building was occupied by a quiet mix of tenants made up primarily of couples and single apartment dwellers, said Carren Kaston, a former literature professor who has lived at the complex for more than three decades and is president of the Sedgwick Gardens Tenant Association.

That began to change about two years ago.

Lawrence Hilliard moved into Sedgwick Gardens two years ago with the help of a city housing voucher. He says there has been tension between longtime residents and the formerly homeless. (Marvin Joseph/The Washington Post)

In late 2016, the board of the D.C. Housing Authority — which sets payment standards for vouchers issued in the city — increased the maximum value of vouchers to 175 percent of fair market rent, as set by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

That meant vouchers could be used for one-bedroom apartments renting at up to $2,648 a month, according to Housing Authority documents. At Sedgwick Gardens, the going rate for one-bedroom units was about $2,200 per month in 2017, according to a former tenant who moved in that year without public assistance.

Tenants with vouchers pay 30 percent of whatever income they have toward rent, with the city subsidizing the rest.

The move came in a city desperate to offer its residents more affordable living options — and to move the chronically homeless off the street. At the last official count in 2018, there were 6,904 homeless people in the District, which has a population of just over 700,000. A recent study by the National Community Reinvestment Coalition found that the District has experienced the most intense gentrification of any city in the country.

Naimah Simkins, the former property manager at Sedgwick Gardens, said that in early 2017, she listed basement units she was having trouble leasing on a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs website. Soon, there was a trickle of formerly homeless or low-income veterans bearing vouchers issued by the D.C. government.

Built in 1931, Sedgwick Gardens shows the distinctive touches of prominent Washington architect Mihran Mesrobian. (Samantha Ganey for The Washington Post)

Cleveland Park is a bastion of urbane liberalism where just 1 in 20 voters supported President Trump in the 2016 election. Yet from the beginning, Simkins said, it was clear that some of the building’s older residents were discomfited by the new basement dwellers.

She likened the dynamic to “The People Under the Stairs,” a 1991 kitsch horror movie in which a well-to-do couple live above a cellar filled with mistreated children.

[A homeless family needed shelter. D.C. gave them bus tickets to North Carolina.]

“It would be, like, the smallest thing that they would call the police on,” Simkins said. She said the more established tenants “feel uneasy, but if they would just reach out and talk, they would see that (tenants with vouchers) are human beings, too.”

After moving into the building about two years ago, voucher holder Joseph A. Bundy, 69, said he was smoking outside one day when another resident approached him: “This lady came up and said, ‘Don’t you know there’s a park up the street?’ I said, ‘What you talking about, a park up the street? My home’s right here.’ ”

Lawrence Hilliard, a 69-year-old Marine Corps veteran who previously lived at the homeless men’s shelter on New York Avenue, said a social worker took him on a tour of apartments where he could use his rental voucher. At the initial addresses in Southeast, Hilliard said he was warned by residents that the sound of gunshots made it hard to sleep at night.

Sedgwick Gardens, in a neighborhood of parks and small businesses where Hilliard had done odd jobs as a young man, was a revelation.

“It was away from the violence and the foolishness, man, that’s the main thing,” he said, smoking a cigarette on a recent evening in the building’s parking lot, which adjoins a vibrant patch of World War II victory gardens still tended by community members. “And then the violence and the foolishness came up here.”

'I have a shotgun'

There were 121 calls for police service at Sedgwick Gardens in 2018, up from 34 in 2016. City officials said despite that volume, officers determined just five times last year that a crime had taken place. Still, a number of the incidents left residents rattled.

On Palm Sunday of last year, officers responding to a noise complaint encountered Robert Gingell, who according to a police report could be heard throwing objects around his third-floor apartment.

When they knocked on the door, Gingell allegedly said, “If you try to come into my apartment, I have a shotgun and will shoot all of you. I will pick you off one by one.”

A police tactical team filed through the historic carriage porch and across the limestone-and-marble lobby and set up a perimeter outside Gingell’s apartment, where he holed up until the next morning. Although no gun was found, Gingell was arrested. He was released — and then arrested again at Sedgwick Gardens two days later, accused of striking another tenant in the head with a flashlight.

Gingell could not be reached for comment. Court documents say he pleaded guilty to a charge of attempted threats to do bodily harm, agreeing to undergo mental health and substance abuse assessments and treatment as necessary.

In February, his community supervision officer reported that he no longer lived at Sedgwick Gardens, but at another apartment building in Northwest Washington.

About a month after the SWAT team’s visit, police were called to the building to investigate the whereabouts of 68-year-old tenant Jacob Brooks, who according to building staff had not been seen in weeks. When he did not answer his door, police entered his apartment and found him on the floor of his bedroom, unconscious and not breathing, according to an incident report. Fire and emergency medical services officials called to the scene declared him dead.

The chief medical examiner determined that his death was caused by drugs including fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that often causes overdoses when it is mixed with heroin.

City officials declined to say whether Gingell or Brooks were receiving rental assistance, citing privacy laws.

Tenants say they have also confronted a slew of less serious nuisances such as panhandling, marijuana smoke in the halls and feces discovered on a landing in the stairwell.

[D.C. homeless population drops for second straight year]

Longtime Sedgwick Gardens resident Jane Hardin said many of the tenants with vouchers are good neighbors. But she worries about a woman down the hall who screams to herself at odd hours. (Marvin Joseph/The Washington Post)

Diane McWhorter, a Sedgwick Gardens resident and author of “Carry Me Home,” a Pulitzer Prize-winning book about segregation and the civil rights movement, said bureaucratic bungling was undermining the laudable aims of the voucher programs.

“I became extremely disillusioned with the city as a result of this whole thing because I kind of lost faith in their willingness or ability to respond to what was happening on the ground,” McWhorter said.

“Cleveland Park is the ideal community to test this out because by and large the existing residents are very hospitable to these ideas,” she added. “It just would behoove them to try to make this work here. Because the odds are, if it can’t work here, they’re going to have a hard time selling it in communities that aren’t as ‘woke.’ ”

McWhorter said landlords also have little incentive to turn away tenants unfit for independent living because the vouchers guarantee them rents in excess of market rates.

And there is an added perk. In buildings such as Sedgwick Gardens, where many older tenants pay less for rent-stabilized units, apartments that are let out to tenants receiving public assistance don’t revert to rent control once those tenants leave. Last year, the D.C. Council took action to close this loophole, but the law has not yet gone into effect.

A spokeswoman for Daro, which owns and manages Sedgwick Gardens, said the company had not taken steps either “to solicit or discourage voucher holders from applying” and noted that it was illegal for landlords to discriminate against tenants receiving government rental subsidies.

She said Daro addressed problems with tenants as they arose.

“Beyond enforcing lease violations and working to evict tenants who repeatedly violate the terms of their lease, Daro has worked with city officials, police, case managers, housing officials and other tenants to create a safe environment,” she said.

Housing first

— or housing only?

For decades, the homeless often faced obstacles in the search for long-term housing. Among them was the mind-set that issues such as chronic mental illness or addiction should be under control before people became eligible to live outside shelters or group homes.

“Housing first” revolutionized that attitude. Backed by a formidable body of research showing that it reduces chronic homelessness, it has become the dominant philosophy in the District and many other cities.

“Housing is therapeutic in and of itself, and there should be no behavioral barriers to access to housing,” said Jay Melder, the District’s assistant city administrator for internal services. “Housing first is a best practice, nationwide.”

But as that practice spreads, some are urging caution against a one-size-fits-all attitude.

Particularly for those who have endured prolonged bouts of homelessness or mental illness, the approach is risky, said David Buck, associate dean of community health at the University of Houston College of Medicine.

While studies clearly support the effectiveness of housing-first programs, Buck said, they can fall apart when participants don’t get the follow-up care they need.

Government officials and advocates for the homeless “want one answer for everyone,” Buck said. “Housing first and just the voucher works great for some people. But for people who are chronically mentally ill or chronically homeless . . . those people don’t do as well just jumping in.”

A majority of the D.C. Council is backing a bill, introduced by Nadeau, that would require buildings with at least 20 units and 30 percent or more of them occupied by tenants receiving housing assistance to offer on-site access to social services such as health care, nutrition counseling and child care. Nadeau said the bill did not arise in response to complaints about Sedgwick Gardens.

Melder noted that only a portion of the voucher holders at Sedgwick Gardens are formerly homeless or in need of ongoing social services. Some, including families, simply qualified for public assistance because of their low incomes.

Case managers were assigned to those who required services, he said, even before the city began stationing social workers at the building two months ago.

But Sedgwick Gardens tenants say some of their new neighbors seem lost.

Jane Hardin, 79, has lived in the building since 1974. She said most of the voucher holders are good neighbors, apt to say hello or open a door for her. She likes seeing some of the older men who have moved into the building playing checkers in the basement common space.

Then there is the woman who moved in alone down the hall, who moans and screams incomprehensibly for long stretches of the day and night, who seems to badly need help she isn’t getting. On Christmas Day last year, Hardin said, she found her sitting by herself near the elevator. It seemed like a good time to try to establish a connection.

“I looked at her and just said, ‘Merry Christmas,’ and she nodded her head and almost smiled,” Hardin recalled. “But I haven’t been able to build on that.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099750)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 2:36 AM
Author: greedy arousing church building

"Starkes, who is black, said some of her fellow tenants with vouchers were not properly screened by city officials before moving in. Now, she said, those residents have overwhelmed her new home and “are trying to turn it into a ghetto.”

Lol @ having to mention that she's black to avoid widespread outrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099946)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:53 PM
Author: Bright shivering library trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103608)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 2:43 AM
Author: Seedy Stag Film

this is the life libs want for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099950)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 2:50 AM
Author: greedy arousing church building

The people in this building literally voted for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38099956)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:07 AM
Author: duck-like odious lodge

cr they want it for themselves too until unintended consequences turn up as they tend to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100354)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:14 AM
Author: Cerebral shitlib

Then they blame the city’s “bureaucratic bungling” for ruining it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100373)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:50 AM
Author: aqua ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100483)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:53 AM
Author: Beady-eyed legend school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100502)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:14 AM
Author: greedy arousing church building

Also $2600 in subsidies is insane. You have the government essentially subsidizing an UMC lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100185)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:11 AM
Author: duck-like odious lodge

giving twice as much taxpayer money to the mentally unstable for rent so they can live in a building that’s twice as nice = they’ll be twice as civilized, what’s not to get?

involuntary commitment scares the shit out of me as it should anyone who gives three seconds of thought to the potential danger of govt overreach but damn if limo libs aren’t doing their best to make it palatable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100366)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:06 PM
Author: curious double fault house

But we only want involuntary commitment for legit crazy people and for liberals...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103982)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Cerebral shitlib

I think the reason the issues at Sedgwick Gardens came to a head is that there were a couple of residents that were causing a problem. That could have been true whether they had a voucher or not,” said D.C. Council member Brianne K. Nadeau (D-Ward 1),

Cr its 50-50 whether the disheveled woman screaming incoherently in the elevator is paying $3k a month in rent or is on a voucher; could be either one really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100370)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:20 AM
Author: duck-like odious lodge

cr she could very well be a service partner dealing with a jr associate who printed a draft double-sided

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100391)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:22 AM
Author: buff church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100396)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:03 AM
Author: exciting coffee pot rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100545)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 4:38 PM
Author: Silver irradiated hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38102482)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 5:02 PM
Author: Chartreuse titillating heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38102604)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:22 AM
Author: buff church

(guy who hasnt visited the 'I admit defeat' thread)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100395)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:56 AM
Author: Cerebral shitlib

I read about 4 poasts in and clicked back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100515)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:15 PM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

"could have been true"

See related comment here: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100023

If any market rate tenant could have caused trouble, then there's no difference between market rate and subsidized tenants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103728)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:58 AM
Author: aphrodisiac native love of her life

I went looking for a place in DC and 90% of listings under like $4k/mo were in these new luxury buildings. Most of the buildings with units were in the H street corridor or down by Navy Yard. 1br starts at $2400. Several buildings were brand new and almost totally devoid of tenants EXCEPT rough smelly deritus from the old hood where the building now stands.

The commercial spaces in these buildings were ttt too. They had nail salons just like you see in a regular fucking ghetto. It's like they built a fancy luxury apartment building and then IMMEDIATELY filled it with hideous ghetto fixtures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100525)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:00 AM
Author: Disturbing fragrant brunch

This gets at a larger problem: It's fucking absurd that we try to house the homeless in the most expensive real estate in the country. You could vastly improve D.C. by simply building vast, cheap tract housing three hours away by train, then giving homeless people units in that tract. They can all have fun with each other. It would be way cheaper and house way more people. Why do they need to be close to the city-- it's not as if they have a job to get to. They might prefer to live in DC, but tough shit, tons of people who pay their own way for housing don't get to live in their preferred city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100534)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:56 PM
Author: 180 address

Nah- the people 3 hours away are smart enough to stand up and say don't ruin the place I live by importing this kind of garbage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103621)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:01 PM
Author: Wonderful Azure Elastic Band

(Obama's HUD secretary)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103654)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:04 AM
Author: Histrionic Area Feces

Libs need to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100549)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:12 PM
Author: Cobalt Theater Cumskin

This is still the cheapest way to deal with chronic homelessness for the 98 percent of homeless who don't hit people with flashlights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103417)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: spruce comical gas station

It would be cheaper to house them somewhere other than one of the most expensive real estate markets in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103598)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:57 PM
Author: Cobalt Theater Cumskin

Thanks Obama.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38104211)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:03 PM
Author: Razzmatazz crystalline haunted graveyard ticket booth

these people should be housed in some faraway u.s. territory, such as guam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103675)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:07 PM
Author: flatulent sanctuary background story

In Chicago there is the SUPER VOUCHER program, and it's going really super.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs-cha-moves-to-strip-aid-from-suspect-in-gym-murder/

The owner of a luxury high-rise apartment complex in the West Loop is suing to evict a wheelchair-bound tenant, subsidized by the Chicago Housing Authority, who allegedly shot and killed another tenant while the man was on a stationary bike in the building’s gym.

And the CHA says it “has begun the process of terminating” the financial assistance — worth $22,608 a year — that Reggie L. Daniel has been receiving so he could live in the one-bedroom apartment on the 15th floor at Alta at K Station, 555 W. Kinzie.

Police say Daniel quarreled with Darrin A. Joss, a commodities trader, at the gym around 7 p.m. on March 2, left, came back with a gun and shot Joss in the head and chest. Joss, 45, was pronounced dead less than an hour later at Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

Daniel — who is unemployed, according to police reports — is leasing a $2,055-a-month apartment. CHA records show he pays $171 a month toward the rent, and taxpayers pay the remaining $1,884.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103688)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:45 PM
Author: duck-like odious lodge

lol holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103883)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: federal degenerate

Holy shit! I thought my old apt was bad. Jfc. Oh that's from 2016. I think the program is over now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38104015)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz crystalline haunted graveyard ticket booth

the pic of the apartment lobby makes this even lulzier

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6YRTRXC23MI6TGGUQRAIRUJV6I.jpg&w=600

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103692)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:34 PM
Author: marvelous sepia ape dopamine

Is there a way to ensure your building won't do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103834)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:53 PM
Author: translucent electric partner stage

I imagine an owner could create a deed restriction to that effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103920)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:36 PM
Author: overrated appetizing theater stage

Libs should be systematically hunted down like wild animals and killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103842)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:07 PM
Author: federal degenerate

They did this in Chicago a few yrs ago. I was in one of the apt buildings. The voucher recipients would bring in the old neighborhood. So shit was always crowded. The game room turned into shit, gym suddenrly had missing dumbbells, pool would have trash from a BBQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103986)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:08 PM
Author: overrated appetizing theater stage

niggers should be catapulted, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103993)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:11 PM
Author: flatulent sanctuary background story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38103688)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38104006)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:31 PM
Author: Aromatic khaki skinny woman community account

DC in a nutshell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38104102)