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Dumb here. What does Roe v Wade say about abortions?

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fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
it's in a penumbra
Federal Regret
  05/20/19
Idk what that means. Can you explain?
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
I can't and apparently neither could the guy who wrote it
Federal Regret
  05/20/19
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shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
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abnormal crawly station
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ruby laughsome useless brakes
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Deep twisted boistinker cuckold
  05/20/19
it's a liberty protected by the constitution
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
That was Casey which reinvented Roe 20 years later
razzmatazz judgmental den
  05/20/19
The words of the constitution emanate unwritten meanings and...
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
great summary
Federal Regret
  05/20/19
where in the constitution do these penumbras come from? 14th...
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
No - that type of jurisprudence came later. The emanations c...
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
That's Griswold, in Roe the court stepped back from that shi...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
Isn’t Roe part of the Griswold line of cases?
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
court keeps wandering off in its theory of the case Griswol...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
Thanks it has been years since I had con law. Where in the c...
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
same spot
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
That's a pretty fucked up part of the constitution
irradiated background story laser beams
  05/20/19
blame republicans in 1868
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
Same strain of religiousity
irradiated background story laser beams
  05/20/19
lmao at the state of our “country”
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
It's like Joseph Smith interpreting the stones to write the ...
Nofapping Razzle Friendly Grandma
  05/20/19
Except less honest about the charade
irate sanctuary
  05/20/19
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Soggy slap-happy party of the first part
  05/20/19
The Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of pr...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
So is it fair to say that while everyone (lib and con justic...
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
No Everyone agrees there are certain times where the consti...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
That's so 1993. Now we're at: does the fact that the consti...
abnormal crawly station
  05/20/19
lol not even thomas thinks this
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
many people are saying this
abnormal crawly station
  05/20/19
-@realDonaldTrump
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
Amy Barrett does
high-end haunted graveyard
  05/20/19
no con justices do not believe the constitution provides ...
abnormal crawly station
  05/20/19
con justices follow the constitution which leads to privacy ...
Mind-boggling garrison
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Soggy slap-happy party of the first part
  05/20/19
Our constitution casts a secret shadow of secrets, and when ...
Maize shivering jewess tanning salon
  05/20/19
Basically that your mom can get a doctor to do it next time.
aromatic police squad becky
  05/20/19
I have 2 dads
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
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Federal Regret
  05/20/19
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=123341239458352...
Stimulating Cuckoldry Native
  05/20/19
it has been years since law school, but basically, the state...
territorial slate athletic conference theatre
  05/20/19
How did it come up with a trimester approach?
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
made it up that's why casey overturned it, because it was s...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/20/19
Why does everyone refer to Roe v Wade as the controlling law...
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
first-mover advantage
Federal Regret
  05/20/19
Be it’s more famous not flame Casey is controlling...
Soggy slap-happy party of the first part
  05/20/19
Can you tell me what Casey says?
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/20/19
Case I believe is the one that says something like the state...
territorial slate athletic conference theatre
  05/21/19
Did Casey say when a fetus becomes viable?
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/21/19
24 weeks.
Jet Business Firm Really Tough Guy
  05/21/19
Casey kind of does four things law geeks care about. 1. Roe...
Ultramarine Volcanic Crater
  05/21/19
So under Casey, can states pass laws banning abortion after ...
fantasy-prone area electric furnace
  05/21/19
Depends
odious market incel
  05/21/19
It’s just made up. All the vanguard liberal opinions a...
shimmering drunken round eye nibblets
  05/20/19
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Soggy slap-happy party of the first part
  05/20/19
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  05/21/19
This is helpful. Thank u
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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:10 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261883)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:12 PM
Author: Federal Regret

it's in a penumbra

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261889)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:17 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

Idk what that means. Can you explain?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261905)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:19 PM
Author: Federal Regret

I can't and apparently neither could the guy who wrote it

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261922)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261930)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:31 PM
Author: abnormal crawly station



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261983)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:44 PM
Author: heady principal's office rigpig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262048)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: ruby laughsome useless brakes



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262463)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:27 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sapphire trailer park



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262487)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:50 PM
Author: Deep twisted boistinker cuckold



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264262)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:19 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

it's a liberty protected by the constitution

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261921)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 7:58 PM
Author: razzmatazz judgmental den

That was Casey which reinvented Roe 20 years later

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263116)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

The words of the constitution emanate unwritten meanings and cast penumbras. Those emanations and penumbras are detectable by liberal justices and mean that democratically enacted laws are unconstitutional when they don’t comport with the liberal dogma of the day. The same analysis doesn’t apply to reach conservative results - it’s a one way street. It turns out that one of those emanations means that it’s unconstitutional to impede a woman’s right (found in a penumbra) to commit infanticide in certain cases. This summary is 100% true and serious.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261925)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: Federal Regret

great summary

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261929)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:23 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

where in the constitution do these penumbras come from? 14th amendment?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261947)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

No - that type of jurisprudence came later. The emanations come from the actual written guarantees in the bill of rights. The real trick is that it’s only possible for liberal justices to discern these emanations. Then they can figure out what rights are found in their penumbras.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261953)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

That's Griswold, in Roe the court stepped back from that shit

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261963)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:33 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

Isn’t Roe part of the Griswold line of cases?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261988)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:35 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

court keeps wandering off in its theory of the case

Griswold court is all "penumbra"

Roe court is like "wow y'all hated that penumbra shit, ummm it's maybe 14A? but it could be 9A idk"

Casey court is "okay, we hear you, 14A, it's 14A"

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261994)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 4:53 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

Thanks it has been years since I had con law. Where in the constitution is the right to engage in homosexual sodomy?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262328)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

same spot

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262388)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: irradiated background story laser beams

That's a pretty fucked up part of the constitution

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262397)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:11 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

blame republicans in 1868

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262423)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:16 PM
Author: irradiated background story laser beams

Same strain of religiousity

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262452)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 7:42 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

lmao at the state of our “country”

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263040)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:43 PM
Author: Nofapping Razzle Friendly Grandma

It's like Joseph Smith interpreting the stones to write the Book of Mormon

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262045)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: irate sanctuary

Except less honest about the charade

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263323)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: Soggy slap-happy party of the first part



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264239)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

The Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of privacy. In a line of decisions, however, going back perhaps as far as 1891, the Court has recognized that a right of personal privacy, or a guarantee of certain areas or zones of privacy, does exist under the Constitution. In varying contexts, the Court or individual Justices have, indeed, found at least the roots of that right in the First Amendment, in the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, in the penumbras of the Bill of Rights, in the Ninth Amendment, or in the concept of liberty guaranteed by the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment. These decisions make it clear that only personal rights that can be deemed "fundamental" or "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty" are included in this guarantee of personal privacy. They also make it clear that the right has some extension to activities relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education.

This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy. The detriment that the State would impose upon the pregnant woman by denying this choice altogether is apparent. Specific and direct harm medically diagnosable even in early pregnancy may be involved. Maternity, or additional offspring, may force upon the woman a distressful life and future. Psychological harm may be imminent. Mental and physical health may be taxed by child care. There is also the distress, for all concerned, associated with the unwanted child, and there is the problem of bringing a child into a family already unable, psychologically and otherwise, to care for it. In other cases, as in this one, the additional difficulties and continuing stigma of unwed motherhood may be involved. All these are factors the woman and her responsible physician necessarily will consider in consultation.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261961)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:35 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

So is it fair to say that while everyone (lib and con justices) agrees the constitution gives us the right to privacy, the question for decades has been whether the right to privacy included the right of a woman to abort?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38261995)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:37 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

No

Everyone agrees there are certain times where the constitution protects certain things that are private in certain contexts

There's no freestanding "right to privacy"

Better question for court today: does the fact that the state shall not deprive anyone of "liberty" without "due process of law" include the "liberty" to abort

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262009)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:39 PM
Author: abnormal crawly station

That's so 1993. Now we're at: does the fact that the constitution provides that no one shall be deprived of "life" forbid the state from countenancing abortion under any circumstances? (the answer is yes)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262018)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:39 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

lol not even thomas thinks this

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262022)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:41 PM
Author: abnormal crawly station

many people are saying this

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262032)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:46 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

-@realDonaldTrump

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262055)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 7:31 PM
Author: high-end haunted graveyard

Amy Barrett does

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262998)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:38 PM
Author: abnormal crawly station

no

con justices do not believe the constitution provides a freestanding "right of privacy." They believe the constitution provides many specific protections - such as a right to be free from unlawful search and seizure - but that there is no general protection for privacy anywhere.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262012)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling garrison

con justices follow the constitution which leads to privacy rights being protected that libs would not protect

libs? when it suits

kyllo

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262072)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sapphire trailer park



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262393)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: Titillating abusive public bath gaming laptop



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262458)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: Soggy slap-happy party of the first part



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264235)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 3:36 PM
Author: Maize shivering jewess tanning salon

Our constitution casts a secret shadow of secrets, and when you’re in that shadow you can kill babies.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262001)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 4:00 PM
Author: aromatic police squad becky

Basically that your mom can get a doctor to do it next time.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262107)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 4:02 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

I have 2 dads

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262117)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 7:57 PM
Author: Federal Regret



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263109)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 5:10 PM
Author: Stimulating Cuckoldry Native

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12334123945835207673

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262415)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 7:29 PM
Author: territorial slate athletic conference theatre

it has been years since law school, but basically, the state has to balance the woman's interest in privacy with the state's interest in protecting the baby and then came up with a trimester approach, where the woman's interest trumps in the first trimester, the state's interest can trump in the third trimester, and in the second trimester there can be reasonable limitations.

This later got morphed into something like the state cannot put undue burdens on women before viability of the fetus

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38262992)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 8:23 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

How did it come up with a trimester approach?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263270)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 8:23 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

made it up

that's why casey overturned it, because it was sps

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263276)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 8:32 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

Why does everyone refer to Roe v Wade as the controlling law then?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263321)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: Federal Regret

first-mover advantage

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264241)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: Soggy slap-happy party of the first part

Be it’s more famous not flame

Casey is controlling

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264252)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:51 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

Can you tell me what Casey says?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264276)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 9:00 AM
Author: territorial slate athletic conference theatre

Case I believe is the one that says something like the state cannot put undue burdens on women before viability of the fetus



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38265289)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 11:37 AM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

Did Casey say when a fetus becomes viable?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38265799)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: Jet Business Firm Really Tough Guy

24 weeks.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38265873)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:13 PM
Author: Ultramarine Volcanic Crater

Casey kind of does four things law geeks care about.

1. Roe is like an important kind of precedent we can't just toss out.

2. While we were kind of uncertain where in the Constitution talks about abortion, we're saying it's a woman's "liberty" under the Fourteenth Amendment.

3. The "trimester" framework we made up was SPS so we're throwing it away and instead saying the woman's liberty interest is high before fetal viability and low after fetal viability.

4. Any laws restricting abortion before fetal viability can't place an "undue burden" on the woman (which means pretty much whatever 5 justices say).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38265980)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:20 PM
Author: fantasy-prone area electric furnace

So under Casey, can states pass laws banning abortion after 24 weeks?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38266016)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: odious market incel

Depends

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38266061)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 8:57 PM
Author: shimmering drunken round eye nibblets

It’s just made up. All the vanguard liberal opinions are just edicts announced by five disconnected “intellectuals” dressed up in 50 - 200 pages of obfuscatory “legal reasoning” and “constitutional law”.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38263457)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: Soggy slap-happy party of the first part



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264253)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:02 AM
Author: aquamarine institution



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264454)



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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: Contagious Frum Bbw

This is helpful. Thank u

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38264257)



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Date: May 21st, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: odious market incel



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265559&forum_id=2#38265897)