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Illinois is getting FEDERALLY SUED for failing to stop the violence in Chicago

lol, i hope the state loses big and has to pay out billions&...
sepia razzle-dazzle range depressive
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i thought scotus ruled cops don't have to protect us. this i...
excitant sick stage
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They are blaming the violence on guns, not lawbreakers
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blacks don't follow homicide laws. but if guns are illegal t...
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"The plaintiffs list 11 legal remedies to adequately ad...
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Execute them. 9mm is twenty cents a round
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"Demetria Powell’s son doesn’t function lik...
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Contagious temple
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yeah cause niggers need a bigger ghetto lottery payout.
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If they really cared about protecting the kids they would su...
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An argument I repeatedly see advanced is that it is really t...
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Things that do not happen in Russia.
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Isn't trump's government suing some town for discriminatory ...
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"They are suing the state themselves so it’s real...
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180, Illinois should be destroyed
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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:25 AM
Author: sepia razzle-dazzle range depressive

lol, i hope the state loses big and has to pay out billions&trillions:

Lawsuit's novel approach: State is responsible for children 'disabled' by gun violence

“I think the scars she carries keeps her from living her full potential,” one woman said of her 13-year-old granddaughter.

CHICAGO — Demetria Powell’s son doesn’t function like most 9-year-olds. The boy, who lives on Chicago’s West Side, has severe difficulty reading, communicating and learning to the extent that he can’t fully participate in school.

But he wasn’t born this way.

After living through the shooting deaths of several people in his life, including his father, whose bullet-ridden body he saw firsthand at 5, the boy went from being bright and amenable to aggressive and reclusive, his mother said in a class-action lawsuit filed against the state of Illinois on behalf of her son and hundreds of other children.

In the suit, she argues that stress from the unceasing gun violence in the Austin neighborhood where she and her son live caused a “trauma-related disability” that has impaired his cognitive and emotional function and said that the state has an obligation not only to address but rectify it under federal and state law.

The legal complaint, which was filed in 2018 but was given the green light to proceed by a federal judge in September, poses a novel and potentially game-changing argument that, if successful, could set a groundbreaking model for other cities that are tackling concentrated gun violence, legal experts say.

It argues that children living in Chicago’s most gun-ravaged neighborhoods suffer disabilities as a result of the violence and that Illinois is violating both the federal Americans With Disabilities Act and state civil rights laws by not tightening regulations on the flow of the illegal weapons that are contributing to the carnage.

Nearly 500 people have been murdered in Chicago this year according to The Chicago Tribune, with most of those victims concentrated in a handful of districts on the South and West sides, including in Austin.

Nearly 60 percent of children under the age of 5 lived in neighborhoods where more than 90 percent of the homicides took place in the last few years, according to the Erikson Institute, a Chicago-based graduate school that focuses on early childhood education and policy.

The lawsuit has already survived several attacks by the state, which is “fighting tooth and nail” to get it thrown out, said Tom Johnson, an attorney for the plaintiffs.

“This lawsuit is aimed at trying to keep guns out of the hands of people who aren’t eligible under existing law to own them,” he added. “That’s the root cause of the trauma.”

The Illinois State Police, who is also listed as a defendant in the lawsuit, said they did not comment on ongoing litigation in a statement to NBC News. The Illinois governor's office did not return a request for comment.

The plaintiffs list 11 legal remedies to adequately address the children's disabilities, including requiring gun dealers to install video recording systems to discourage traffickers and buyers from using false identification; submit to a mandatory audit of the store’s inventory to help detect theft and trafficking; and to train employees and managers of gun shops to identify common signs of straw purchasing to avoid gun trafficking, according to the lawsuit.

Despite ire from the state and the National Rifle Association, a federal judge sustained the legal arguments, saying “the complaint adequately alleges that the injunctions plaintiffs seek would appreciably diminish the rate of gun violence in Chicago’s predominantly African American neighborhoods,” and that “it is reasonable to infer that the concentrated violence begets trauma and the psychological and behavioral injuries described in the complaint,” U.S. District Judge Joan Gottschall wrote in a passionate 34-page opinion largely denying the state’s motion to dismiss:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-ilnd-1_18-cv-06675/pdf/USCOURTS-ilnd-1_18-cv-06675-0.pdf

“This is a pretty unique argument,” said Darrell Miller, a professor and co-director of the Duke University Center for Firearms Law. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen any kind of theory of liability based on the Americans With Disability Act as a way of trying to oblige a municipality or government official to change the gun licensing system.”

Miller said if the plaintiffs are successful under the Americans With Disability Act, a new pathway would open up for other municipalities experiencing endemic gun violence to follow because that law applies nationwide.

Dru Stevenson, a professor at the South Texas College of Law, has been following the case closely and feels it’s “ingenious” in several ways.

"This has a lot of potential and is interesting because a lot of gun litigation runs into Second Amendment challenges because the argument is based around taking away some individual's right to bear arms," he said. “But here they are not suing gun-makers, gun owners, or even the stores. They are suing the state themselves so it’s really hard to see how the Second Amendment would stop this.”

Chicago, which is arguably ground zero of the crippling effects of gun violence, could potentially crack the code for increased government accountability of gun regulations, he said.

Stevenson argues that although it won’t completely eliminate gun violence, it will help in the fight.

He also added that gun litigation usually stems from victims of mass shootings like Parkland and Sandy Hook, but this is one of the rare times legal action is demanded by kids who deal with shootings on a regular basis.

Thousands of young children from Chicago's South and West sides have grown up with the long-term ramifications of gun violence, including Tywanna Patrick’s 13-year-old granddaughter.

Patrick’s granddaughter was one of the initial plaintiffs on the lawsuit but was removed by a federal judge because she recently moved out of the city to a suburb seven miles from the Austin neighborhood where she lived for several years.

Patrick said her granddaughter had to be pulled out of pubic school and home-schooled after she lost her 21-year-old uncle, who “treated her like a little sister,” to gun violence when she was 7.

“I think the scars she carries keeps her from living her full potential,” Patrick said, adding that she saw a change in her granddaughter's personality and functioning the more she was exposed to violence after her uncle's death. “I couldn’t imagine who she’d be if this had never happened.”

Federal law defines a disability as “a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities of such individual."

An abundance of research has shown that prolonged exposure to gun violence interferes with academic performance, educational opportunities and the ability to care for oneself in an optimal way.

"There is a huge effect on cognitive function," said Patrick Sharkey, a sociologist at Princeton University who has conducted numerous studies on the effects of gun violence on Chicago's children.

According to one of his studies, academic performance was diminished so sharply for kids who were given an educational assessment days after violence occurred near their home that it looked as if they had missed two years of school relative to kids given the same assessment who hadn't been exposed to violence.

“They are definitely functioning at a lower impaired level,” he said. The impacts are most severe for kids most exposed. The effects alter academic trajectories and outcomes later in life as well, he said.

“That is a disability which is not self-imposed or something inherent,” Sharkey said.

While it is unclear how the suit will ultimately fare, the families bringing the lawsuit are hopeful that even an out-of-court settlement could provide some relief to the current state of gun control in the city’s most ravaged areas.

“This is one way we can make some significant impact in the community because illegal guns won’t flood our neighborhoods,” Patrick said. “You can’t go back to the way it was before a child was exposed to violence, so it's about being able to deal with it and creating a new normal."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawsuit-s-novel-approach-state-responsible-children-disabled-gun-violence-n1092711

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264056)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:46 AM
Author: excitant sick stage

i thought scotus ruled cops don't have to protect us. this is some rule 11 shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264083)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:48 AM
Author: zombie-like mischievous crackhouse selfie

They are blaming the violence on guns, not lawbreakers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264085)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:51 AM
Author: excitant sick stage

blacks don't follow homicide laws. but if guns are illegal they'll stop buying them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264090)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:58 AM
Author: bossy drunken church love of her life

"The plaintiffs list 11 legal remedies to adequately address the children's disabilities, including requiring gun dealers to install video recording systems to discourage traffickers and buyers from using false identification"

LJL. The gun can come from literally anywhere, including overseas. Here's an idea: How about we install video recording systems IN THE AREAS WHERE THE GUNSHOTS ARE OCCURRING? Then we can identify the shooters and give them life in prison without parole. Once we get the shooters off the street, that should also solve your problem, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264189)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:00 AM
Author: Marvelous Space Gay Wizard

this sounds like one of those public interest lawsuits where a blue state or blue city gets sued by blue lawyers, then settles by agreeing to do a bunch of shit that they could never get the legislature to approve, then the blue lawyers get big attorneys fees from a blue judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264325)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: Stimulating blue dysfunction athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264347)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:21 AM
Author: Pale library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264357)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:31 AM
Author: indigo halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264374)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:44 AM
Author: infuriating big-titted yarmulke philosopher-king

Execute them. 9mm is twenty cents a round

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264417)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:05 AM
Author: Stimulating blue dysfunction athletic conference

"Demetria Powell’s son doesn’t function like most 9-year-olds. The boy, who lives on Chicago’s West Side, has severe difficulty reading, communicating and learning to the extent that he can’t fully participate in school"

So he's black?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264197)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:21 AM
Author: Pearly Forum Voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264218)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: Contagious temple

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264232)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: Contagious temple

yeah cause niggers need a bigger ghetto lottery payout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264231)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:44 AM
Author: Apoplectic harsh ceo indian lodge

If they really cared about protecting the kids they would sue the city/state to institute mandatory stop and frisk, not force it to try and change gun store laws.

I don’t see that in the demand for relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264270)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:48 AM
Author: excitant sick stage

1) capital punishment for convicted felons found to possess firearms or ammo

2) life without parole for 2nd conviction of a violent victim-based crime

3) if parents are a) divorced and b) there children under 18 drop out of school their kids are removed from the home and placed in foster care pending adoption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264281)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:49 AM
Author: Adulterous aphrodisiac hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264285)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:21 AM
Author: Pale library



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:59 AM
Author: Marvelous Space Gay Wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264320)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: balding sticky office wrinkle

An argument I repeatedly see advanced is that it is really the gun laws in Wisconsin and Indiana that are the cause of the violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264596)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: canary bisexual hall

Things that do not happen in Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264358)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Sapphire Church Building Hominid

Isn't trump's government suing some town for discriminatory housing practices because they passed some law that caused disparate impact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39264423)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:19 PM
Author: razzle old irish cottage

"They are suing the state themselves so it’s really hard to see how the Second Amendment would stop this."

wut?

It's easy to see how 2A arguments could apply. An actor can't be liable for not violating constitutional rights. The issue here is that Chicago isn't going to want to make the 2A arguments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39266361)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:17 PM
Author: cocky hairy legs



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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:45 PM
Author: fuchsia scourge upon the earth tanning salon

180, Illinois should be destroyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39266463)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:17 PM
Author: cocky hairy legs

holy shit - a new Discovery in the Law.

“This is a pretty unique argument,” said Darrell Miller, a professor and co-director of the Duke University Center for Firearms Law. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen any kind of theory of liability based on the Americans With Disability Act as a way of trying to oblige a municipality or government official to change the gun licensing system.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4401128&forum_id=2#39266595)