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Has the George Luce / Vinson & Elkins email been posted yet?

It's hilarious.
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
details?
crymeariver
  06/30/06
From: Chatman, Carliss Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:42 AM ...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
I really wonder what possessed him to write something like t...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
Sounds like a pretty typical TTT NU student to me.
One Seventy-Four
  06/30/06
TTT? But he had the highest grade in legal writing!!!!!
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
It was probably pass/fail.
Tim Daotua
  06/30/06
underappreciated post.
brianpeppers
  07/21/06
I appreciated it... Truly
The Great Wide Open
  03/13/07
He should apply for academic positions.
Tim Daotua
  06/30/06
AHAHAHAHAHA That is the best thing I have read in awhile.
174
  06/30/06
39? jesus christ. what do these nontrads think they are doin...
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
You'd think someone his age would know better.
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
This is what bothers me about the whole ordeal: First, wh...
174
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
x
174
  06/30/06
it's especially sad because he was a computer programmer bef...
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
did he get the job?
1980
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
You know I've occassionally thought about emailing to ask wh...
zxcvzxcv
  06/30/06
It's actually ok to send the recruiter a brief email and ask...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
this thread is absolutely beautiful.
brianpeppers
  07/21/06
bump
174
  06/30/06
An absolute classic. "Is it my age? (I'm 39, but I'm...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
i love the glaring grammatical error in his last sentence ...
.... ............. .. ...........
  06/30/06
this is why xoxo makes fun of nontrads
2nd Year Biglaw Shittigator
  06/30/06
Yeah, seems like a disproportionate number of these emails c...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
x
174
  06/30/06
at least he's modest
Farm Implements and Crapturds in a Landscape
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
Hell, some partners there are probably almost 10 years young...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
This letter should be made into a template where you can jus...
174
  06/30/06
fucking awesome idea.
1980
  06/30/06
I love this idea. The ultimate "fuck you" to a fir...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
It would be especially great if one firm were to receive mul...
174
  06/30/06
yasfrat
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
This is exactly what would be great about it. The first one ...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
haha, yep
174
  06/30/06
Extreme quality.
Calm
  06/30/06
Someone needs to email him this thread.
Tim Daotua
  06/30/06
Dear Greg Luce: I was messing around on the internet last...
1980
  06/30/06
Pretty good, but let's send it through editing first.
174
  06/30/06
uh oh
1980
  06/30/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
Why did you wear a pink shirt to the interview?
174
  06/30/06
he must not have seen that simpsons episode
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
I read the thread title as George Lucas email
George Lucas
  06/30/06
pwn3d.
1980
  06/30/06
99 Nw. U.L. Rev. 437 is his student note. Author footnote...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
lame. if I write a note I'm going to put either something fu...
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
I can't believe his student note is 85 pages.
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
LOL and it's about age discrimination SHOULDHAVESEENITCOM...
enchilada of evil
  06/30/06
lol
1980
  06/30/06
180LOL180
174
  06/30/06
175
M.I.T.T.E.N.S.
  06/30/06
180!!!
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
let me add my lol
fulano
  07/21/06
this is one of the best "-PWN3D" combos I've seen.
baywindows
  07/26/06
a milli
settle
  08/22/08
HAHHAHAHA, that is awesome! Who would publish that?!
174
  06/30/06
After reading his email, I can.
O RLY?
  06/30/06
x
174
  06/30/06
It's like he won a fucking Oscar or something. Woohoo, I co...
Tim Daotua
  06/30/06
"I convinced a bunch of 25 year-old fags to print my sl...
George Michael's BSA Jacket
  07/21/06
But he has to thank his library widow and the prof who taugh...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
If anyone ever told me to "think like a lawyer" I ...
174
  06/30/06
credited.
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
Fortunately, no one would ever expect you to.
trendspotter
  06/30/06
"think like a lawyer," the battle cry of TTT stude...
Farm Implements and Crapturds in a Landscape
  06/30/06
The resourcefulness of this board never ceases to amaze me. ...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
BASH BASH
TTT14
  03/13/07
This can't be real, right? I mean, it can't be.
Americanski
  06/30/06
I'd like to think people like this don't exist, but then aft...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
v
174
  06/30/06
if you knew the guy you would know that it is real
ttboy
  06/30/06
does anyone on xoxo know him IRL?
1980
  06/30/06
His grandkids might post here.
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
lulz
dot dot dot perior period space hyphen space
  08/22/08
No wonder everyone assumes all us nontrads are gunner-douche...
Subotai, thief and archer
  06/30/06
at least he understands that this isn't going to work. he mi...
-+-_===
  06/30/06
Well this email is starting to circulate widely (there were ...
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
Especially when this thread starts showing up on Google.
174
  06/30/06
GOERGE LUCE NORTHWESTERN LAW REVIEW EMPLOYMENT FIRED GOERGE ...
1980
  06/30/06
Yep, that should do it.
174
  06/30/06
Not cool, man. You just really fucked some innocent dude nam...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
who knows, they might misspell his name when they run the se...
1980
  06/30/06
LOL
Jimmy McNulty
  07/21/06
You clearly have no idea how google works.
still not a player
  07/26/06
When I am a BIGLAW partner in 8 years, I am going to persona...
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
someone will hire him. he's got a decent resume. he's ...
-+-_===
  06/30/06
George Luce has a son at Minnesota?
Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.
  06/30/06
douches of a feather flock together.
-+-_===
  06/30/06
also, this is like saying my letter to brooklyn was widely c...
-+-_===
  06/30/06
George Luce = nontrad douchebag at NU = Moonshine Hillbilly?...
One Seventy-Four
  06/30/06
own3d.
1980
  06/30/06
This guy is already one year out, so no.
Great Teacher Onizuka
  06/30/06
you guys are funny
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
here's "Carliss Chatman," the attorney who forward...
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
that is so not what i expected a Carliss Chatman to look lik...
-+-_===
  06/30/06
Her blog is entitled "It's Easy to Find Jesus When You'...
M.I.T.T.E.N.S.
  06/30/06
Fwiw, Bush could always afford cocaine.
trendspotter
  06/30/06
i thought it'd be a prissy dude
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
exactly. some WASPy fucker.
-+-_===
  06/30/06
i imagine there's a lot of quickly concealed confusion at me...
Sweep the Leg Johnny
  06/30/06
This is funny!
aznaznaznanzaznazn
  06/30/06
She needs a retro-active ding. What a beast.
Jesus Gypsy
  07/21/06
ty ty ty.
The California Bar
  06/30/06
This thread = instant classic.
M.I.T.T.E.N.S.
  06/30/06
Unbelievable. Best of all, its poorly written.
Lucky Wang
  06/30/06
I love this guy!!! He really deserved to get the job!!!
I Agree With Idiots!!!
  06/30/06
Beautiful
ICE
  06/30/06
This could and should get him fired from his clerkship. You...
franklyn
  06/30/06
he also attacks the skills of the "oil and gas" as...
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
LOL.... that part was the highlight of his arrogant gunner-d...
i_need_a_nap
  06/30/06
Yeah, I already copied that section for pasting: "Th...
trendspotter
  06/30/06
the total lack of self-awareness is priceless. i keep readin...
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
I read it with Dwight Schrutte's voice in my head.
msbdtxnyc
  06/30/06
He'll get in everywhere he re-applies!
Subotai, thief and archer
  06/30/06
i'm gonna fuck the living shit out of josefina luce sounds ...
Evan-2001
  06/30/06
Who the fuck uses exclamation points in a business letter?
penelope
  06/30/06
George Luce, thats who
potatoe
  08/22/08
tragic. this is almost as good as "bla bla bla"...
Hirofromthefuture
  06/30/06
The pink shirt and the hair transplants might bring it about...
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
This is the best law review at NU will get you? HAHA. Wh...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
He might not have been on law review at Northwestern. In fa...
*.*.*
  06/30/06
True. I posted that mostly to bring Joe_Vaj out of the wood...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
holy crap. I know that guy. I graduated in his class at NU...
ttboy
  06/30/06
Fat? He sounds fat.
penelope
  06/30/06
no. really skinny. The funny thing is that the two weirdes...
ttboy
  06/30/06
Is his speech impediment really noticable?
penelope
  06/30/06
George's? no, not particularly. I assumed he would get a j...
ttboy
  06/30/06
Zve Rosenberg sounds like a fundamentalist Jew of some sort....
O RLY?
  06/30/06
no. he just had a really strong lisp and stutter and was am...
ttboy
  06/30/06
That's incorrect, ttboy
nwulawyer
  08/13/06
...
[Board administrators control this account.]
  06/30/06
99th percentile LSAT --> NU? Law review + clerkship --...
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
I think upon reading closely, you'll see that those accompli...
done and done
  06/30/06
It reads as if he did an externship AND a clerkship. And ...
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
I didn't see anything about a clerkship, I'll have to read i...
done and done
  06/30/06
His email is at Louisiana Middle District.
O RLY?
  06/30/06
It doesn't appear that he was on LR. At least, he was never...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
Holyfuckingshit. The NU law review publishes 85 page crap o...
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
Unless all NU LR members don't become members, apparently ye...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
i have never heard of a non lr student getting published in ...
Reade_Seligmann
  06/30/06
But if he'd been on LR, his name would have been listed as s...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
he would either be listed as an editor during his 3L year or...
Reade_Seligmann
  06/30/06
OK, I didn't see staff members listed anywhere, but he was n...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
They were too dumb for me. My lack of "experience"...
GeorgeLuce
  06/30/06
Fish?
Done and done
  06/30/06
Fish is one or two years behind this guy (I think). He's wor...
zxcvzxcv
  06/30/06
I live for threads like this. Does "library widow&qu...
done and done
  06/30/06
perhaps the 161 is accurate after all.
Sweep the Leg Johnny
  06/30/06
I'm glad this joke will never get old. ty
done and done
  06/30/06
I commend GTO as the OP, and every single comment contained ...
aznaznaznanzaznazn
  06/30/06
WOW! This is Big Tex quality douchebaggery. I can't beli...
Al Davis's leaky brain
  06/30/06
I like the pink shirt line, with the (very important) caveat...
done and done
  06/30/06
Which basically says he can't pick his own clothes out, but ...
Al Davis's leaky brain
  06/30/06
ti,oc,tcr. The continued and unnecessary use of parenthes...
done and done
  06/30/06
LOL
Great Teacher Onizuka
  07/01/06
"The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years ...
trendspotter
  06/30/06
After rereading the email, I now think this has to be flame....
Al Davis's leaky brain
  06/30/06
>>Who would say something so stoopid. Have you e...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
Sure. Some dood in my section is 30-35 and he is one of the...
Al Davis's leaky brain
  06/30/06
Where do you go to school? I'm going to send a team of anth...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
I really don't think this dood is indoicative of any class o...
Al Davis's leaky brain
  06/30/06
No, I definitely can think of at least four nontrads I gradu...
O RLY?
  06/30/06
Obiously worse even than LLMs.
HotIvyUg
  06/30/06
The best part about this thread is that someone reading this...
done and done
  06/30/06
bla bla bla
GeorgeLuce
  06/30/06
I can't believe it's real; it's just too perfect for xoxo......
Implied Warrantonin
  06/30/06
wow are people at my law school such douchetards?
Reade_Seligmann
  06/30/06
See, for example, Reade_Seligmann
done and done
  06/30/06
getting into b-school wipes away all my sins
Reade_Seligmann
  06/30/06
You may be right about that
done and done
  06/30/06
Confidentiality
JustDroppinIn
  07/21/06
Go right ahead, jackass.
zxcvzxcv
  07/21/06
Hi George. P.S.: What the hell were you thinking?
Titus Pullo
  07/21/06
I just didn't understand why they didn't hire me and wanted ...
JustDroppinIn
  07/21/06
I suggest dropping this whole thing now before you make it a...
Tim Daotua
  07/21/06
It actually wasn't a bad letter until you got to the paragra...
Titus Pullo
  07/21/06
You are either wonderful flame or the best new poster in age...
rk982
  07/21/06
Welcome, George!!! Oh my God...
PeterGunz
  07/21/06
i think it's jess_w3@hotmail.com see the last comment ht...
Yaz
  07/21/06
He seems to have admitted that he's George, or at least flam...
PeterGunz
  07/21/06
email the addy above
Yaz
  07/21/06
Um, what was the confidential information that she disclosed...
rk982
  07/21/06
Good catch. I was wondering about that. As for the "...
zxcvzxcv
  07/21/06
I don't think there's much to be gained by getting this emai...
rk982
  07/21/06
I was leaning toward that conclusion. You are a calm voice i...
zxcvzxcv
  07/21/06
Google is now aware of this thread: http://www.google.com/se...
zxcvzxcv
  07/21/06
Beautiful.
rk982
  07/21/06
It's number 4 on google. Let's try to make it #1 by tonight....
Jimmy McNulty
  07/21/06
a good way to do that is to click on the link after searchin...
brianpeppers
  07/21/06
...
Scalito
  07/21/06
How long till this email shows up in law blogs like the huds...
brianpeppers
  07/22/06
http://www.legalreader.com/archives/003352.html http://drun...
Titus Pullo
  07/22/06
nice. hopefully it will make its way into the higher traffic...
brianpeppers
  07/22/06
It's already been forwarded around by my school's career ser...
nougat
  07/22/06
thats awesome. what kind of introduction did it come with?
brianpeppers
  07/22/06
It seems to be picking up some momentum.
Great Teacher Onizuka
  07/26/06
he was a computer programmer in his past life? well, it cert...
Poorly Written User Documentation
  07/22/06
SOMEONE PWN GEORGE LUCAS WITH A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE COMPLETE W...
travis bickle
  07/26/06
THIS THREAD IS NOW #1 ON GOOGLE FOR GEORGE LUCE!!!! SOMEONE ...
travis bickle
  07/26/06
how did google get wind of this so fast?
travis bickle
  07/26/06
Does anyone know which judge he clerked for? I have a feeli...
Hokey
  07/26/06
You know, except for the paragraph about his experience as...
asdf12345
  07/26/06
...
NewTaxAssoc
  07/28/06
I missed this thread when it first came out. I am very grat...
Lumbering Legumes on the Linoleum
  07/31/06
Did he go to a TTT undergrad?
Judge_Friendly
  08/13/06
BASH, BASH
TTT14
  03/13/07
GTO google-bombed George Luce: http://www.google.com/search...
TTT14
  03/13/07
Just read a post from a year ago but ill comment anyway... ...
LightWeight
  03/13/07
He didn't show up on Martindale, think he is employed anywhe...
MagicMan
  03/13/07
looks like he may still be clerking... ? http://www.lsba....
.. ......... ...... ..............................
  06/09/07
Sucks to not get a job, huh GTO?
TTT14
  05/03/07
thing is, *he* probably got a firm job eventually.
UPENN HAS A LAW SCHOOL????
  06/08/07
...
...................,,,,,,.,
  05/03/07
Wow... just came across this thread... I was in George's ...
rigitiroo
  06/09/07
"(No, I am not George)" - hi george
J.K.
  06/09/07
titcr.
adalia
  06/09/07
...
[officially retired from this disgusting hellhole]
  06/09/07
The real villian in this whole affair was that mean bitch Ca...
Query08
  08/22/08
i was gonna jump on board until i noticed she was black. pr...
Future Secretary of Defense Eric Shinseki
  08/22/08
I would hope you wouldn't hire anyone to fight a $20 traffic...
Alaska: Like a Microcosm of America
  08/22/08
Seems like guy ended up finding a job in his home state and ...
.......,.,.,.,,,,.,...........,
  08/22/08


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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:41 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

It's hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108781)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:44 AM
Author: crymeariver

details?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108798)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:45 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

From: Chatman, Carliss

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:42 AM

To: Rumbaugh, Holly; Dennis, Patrick; Lankau, Tim

Subject: FW: request to reconsider George Luce

This is a guy I interviewed last week. WTF?

-----Original Message-----

From: George_Luce@lamd.uscourts.gov [mailto:George_Luce@lamd.uscourts.gov]

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:25 AM

To: Johnson, Loreatha

Cc: Schick, Robert M.; Davidow, Jennifer; Harvin, David; Pipkin, Emily; Kornegay, Nancy; Mehta, Persis; Murphy, George; Hodge, Justin; Reeder, James; Chatman, Carliss; Held, Kenneth; Lawson, Corey; Powers, Jason; Omar, Amin

Subject: request to reconsider George Luce

Dear Loreatha,

I received your letter dated May 11, and I am extremely disappointed that Vinson & Elkins has chosen not to extend me an offer. I remain convinced that V&E is the right firm for me. While it is hard to quibble with the verdict of a panel of 14 people, I believe that a real mistake was made, and I ask that my application be reconsidered.

I assume that V&E's chief objective in hiring new associates is to get the best people it can get. Please consider the fact that in law school, I earned the top score in my section on EVERY PAPER in both of my legal writing courses. (The grading was done anonymously.) My article was selected for publication in the Northwestern Law Review, which is one of the top law reviews in the country. Judge Amy St. Eve, a federal judge with whom I externed, will tell you that I was the best extern she ever had (and her externs were mostly cream-of-the-crop Northwestern students, many of whom went on to federal appellate clerkships). The Judge I work for now, as well as other people with whom I have worked, will tell you that I have unusual talent as a legal analyst. I suggest that before you conclude that I don't measure up to V&E's standards, you ask people with whom I have worked what they think about my work and my abilities. At risk of sounding arrogant, I submit that I would be a standout performer at V&E, even though V&E is an elite firm that can select from among the best candidates.

I sensed that some of my interviewers were uncomfortable with the fact that I am not committed to a specific substantive area of law. I would argue, however, that the tools that we bring to the table as lawyers are far more important than the direct, "relevant" experience we bring. "Practical" experience is no substitute for creative intelligence, intellectual sophistication, and pure tenacity. The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer. I have seen enough during my clerkship to say with confidence that I am capable of better work - far better work - than most of the "experienced" attorneys who practice before my judge.

As a judicial clerk, I have been deeply immersed in all sorts of cases at every phase of the litigation process. There are many procedural issues that are common across all different substantive areas of law. There are many connections and overlaps between the different substantive areas. Even within a given substantive area, every case is different, turning on its own facts. The relatively inexperienced associates who specialize in a particular area will have only seen a small part of the universe of possible issues that may arise in their area. Given these facts, I am highly skeptical that, say, a 3rd-year associate who has specialized in "oil and gas" is going to be light years ahead of me in that field. The hypothetical 3rd-year associate will certainly know a lot more than I know about the art and practice of lawyering. But it is highly doubtful that her substantive oil and gas knowledge (which of course exceeds mine) will give her a significant advantage over me when it comes time to analyze the next oil and gas case (which will no doubt involve issues that neither of us have seen before). I want to work on interesting, challenging cases, but I don't believe it would be rational for me to arbitrarily limit myself to a specific substantive area of law at this point in my career. I'll find my niche down the road. I would think that V&E would prefer that their new associates be open-minded enough to try different things.

I would also add that there are intangible factors to be considered. I left a lucrative job in my mid-thirties, working hard to score in the top 1% nationwide on the LSAT so I could go to an elite law school. (I was the oldest guy in my class.) When I was a computer programmer, I was a one-man consulting firm, saving my employer (the state of Louisiana) millions of dollars in costs and making the lives of thousands of people (the system's users) easier. Often, I would go to bed at night, half dreaming, half awake, obsessing over a thorny problem that I encountered. When the creative inspiration would come in the morning, those were the greatest thrills of my life. I know what its like to work 80-hour weeks for months on end. I know what's it like to be considered the expert of last resort - the guy they call in the middle of the night when the data gets corrupted and no one else can figure out what to do. I take my work SERIOUSLY and I take great pride in what I do. I would submit that these are the qualities that can make me a "franchise player" at V&E.

I recognize that the chance that you will reconsider and extend me an offer are very slim. (Lawyers tend to be extremely risk-averse and unwilling to do things differently than they've done before.) But please give this request some serious consideration. I suggest that you begin by talking with some of the folks who have worked with me.

Finally, if you are not willing to change your verdict on me, would you please do the favor of giving me some honest feedback about why you were not impressed enough with me to make an offer? Is it my age? (I'm 39, but I'm healthier than most 25-year-olds.) Is it that I'm losing my hair? (I am willing to undergo transplants!) Is it the fact that I wore a pink shirt to my interview? (My wife picked it out.) Is it the fact that I took the Louisiana bar exam before taking the Texas bar exam? (I took the Louisiana exam because I wanted to get licensed in my home state, and I wanted to get it out of the way first because I had to learn all that civil code stuff.) Is it because I have spent most of my life in Louisiana? (Houston is only a 3-hour car ride or a 40-minute plane ride from Baton Rouge.) Is it because I have a minor speech impediment (a "lacerated S")? Is it because I am introverted? Do I come across as arrogant? Too timid? Is it because I'm not committed to a specific substantive area of litigation?

You judged me as a qualified candidate based on my paper credentials, as evidenced by your willingness to expend the resources to bring me in for an interview. I assure you that I am a much better lawyer than even my paper credentials suggest! Please give me another look. It would be a shame if V&E and me are deprived of a mutually profitable relationship because I failed to present myself well in person on May 8.

Sincerely,

George Luce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108803)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:49 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108836)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:53 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

I really wonder what possessed him to write something like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108856)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:55 AM
Author: One Seventy-Four

Sounds like a pretty typical TTT NU student to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108861)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

TTT? But he had the highest grade in legal writing!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108865)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM
Author: Tim Daotua

It was probably pass/fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108879)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:08 PM
Author: brianpeppers

underappreciated post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270857)





Date: March 13th, 2007 1:13 PM
Author: The Great Wide Open

I appreciated it... Truly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747719)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM
Author: Tim Daotua

He should apply for academic positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108870)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM
Author: 174

AHAHAHAHAHA

That is the best thing I have read in awhile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108871)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

39? jesus christ. what do these nontrads think they are doing? a first year associate shouldn't be older than the partners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108878)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:59 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

You'd think someone his age would know better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108894)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:05 AM
Author: 174

This is what bothers me about the whole ordeal:

First, who expends that much energy writing to any firm after a ding?

Second, it's V&E. It's in Texas. Why would anyone want to work there so badly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108934)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108960)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM
Author: 174

x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108965)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

it's especially sad because he was a computer programmer before the dotcom boom (assuming that wasn't another foolish career change) and should have made millions of dollars off some start up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108941)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:05 AM
Author: 1980

did he get the job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108933)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108964)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:31 AM
Author: zxcvzxcv

You know I've occassionally thought about emailing to ask why I didn't get an offer at a particular place (for self improvement purposes if there's something obvious I'm screwing up.) This email has scared me straight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109903)





Date: June 30th, 2006 11:59 AM
Author: O RLY?

It's actually ok to send the recruiter a brief email and ask for feedback. Worst thing that can happen is they'll ignore it and you'll never see them again. Best thing that can happen is that the hiring partner is a nice guy and he'll answer you himself (I do know someone this happened to).

It's not ok to do what this douchebag did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110646)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:05 PM
Author: brianpeppers

this thread is absolutely beautiful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270841)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:48 AM
Author: 174

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108827)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

An absolute classic.

"Is it my age? (I'm 39, but I'm healthier than most 25-year-olds.) Is it that I'm losing my hair? (I am willing to undergo transplants!) ... Is it because I have a minor speech impediment (a "lacerated S")?"

How about all of the above? And nice job of highlighting everything that likely turned them off the first time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108867)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108872)





Date: June 30th, 2006 1:59 AM
Author: .... ............. .. ........... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=155861&mc=23&forum)

i love the glaring grammatical error in his last sentence

also, i love the pithy "this is a guy i interviewed last week. WTF?" by the guy who forwarded the email.

finally, i love how he butresses his academic qualifications with this amazing factoid: ", I earned the top score in my section on EVERY PAPER in both of my legal writing courses. (The grading was done anonymously.)"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108887)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:00 AM
Author: 2nd Year Biglaw Shittigator

this is why xoxo makes fun of nontrads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108901)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

Yeah, seems like a disproportionate number of these emails come from nontrads for some reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108922)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM
Author: 174

x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108937)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:03 AM
Author: Farm Implements and Crapturds in a Landscape

at least he's modest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108920)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108921)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

Hell, some partners there are probably almost 10 years younger than him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108925)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM
Author: 174

This letter should be made into a template where you can just add the firm that dinged you and your law school; every firm that ever dings an xoxo poster should receive this letter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108926)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM
Author: 1980

fucking awesome idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108936)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:08 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

I love this idea. The ultimate "fuck you" to a firm that has dinged you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108951)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:09 AM
Author: 174

It would be especially great if one firm were to receive multiple copies of the letter from students at different schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108956)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:09 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

yasfrat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108959)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:16 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

This is exactly what would be great about it. The first one they get will get passed around the office and everybody will laugh at the dude who sent it. Then they would receive 10 more identical letters the next day, and they would quickly realize that the joke was on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108994)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:18 AM
Author: 174

haha, yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109008)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:47 AM
Author: Calm

Extreme quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109396)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM
Author: Tim Daotua

Someone needs to email him this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108939)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM
Author: 1980

Dear Greg Luce:

I was messing around on the internet last night when I came across an (embarrassing) email you had sent to Vinson & Elkins - a moderaltely prestigious law firm located in some shit state - expressing your wish to be reconsidered for an associate position. Your letter was long, self-aggrandizing, immodest, disrespectful, and poorly written. The email was posted on a discussion board, by some random person (rumor has it the poster was a sneaky V&E summer associate), and many posters rightly ridiculed you for it. Here is the link:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&mc=27&forum_id=2

BAFF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108983)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:19 AM
Author: 174

Pretty good, but let's send it through editing first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109014)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM
Author: 1980

uh oh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109019)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108962)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:11 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108969)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM
Author: 174

Why did you wear a pink shirt to the interview?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108980)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:14 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

he must not have seen that simpsons episode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108985)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM
Author: George Lucas

I read the thread title as George Lucas email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108981)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:15 AM
Author: 1980

pwn3d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108991)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:18 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

99 Nw. U.L. Rev. 437 is his student note.

Author footnote:

* I wish to thank Professor Max Schanzenbach and Professor Anthony D'Amato for reading and commenting on an earlier draft of this Comment. I also wish to thank Professor D'Amato for teaching me to "think like a lawyer" - and Clinical Professor Susan Provenzano for teaching me to write like one. I thank the editors and staff members of the Northwestern Law Review for their judicious editorial work. I am especially grateful to Executive Editor Chiawen Kiew for graciously accommodating my last-minute revisions. Finally, I thank my family and friends who believed in me - especially my wife Josefina who patiently endured many nights as a "library widow" while I prepared this Comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109009)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

lame. if I write a note I'm going to put either something funny or something about jews in the media in the author footnote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109017)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:23 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

I can't believe his student note is 85 pages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109043)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM
Author: enchilada of evil (sometimes, even I don't know if I'm serious)

LOL and it's about age discrimination

SHOULDHAVESEENITCOMINGPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109061)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM
Author: 1980

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109066)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:30 AM
Author: 174

180LOL180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109088)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:17 AM
Author: M.I.T.T.E.N.S. (angry Loaner)

175

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109809)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

180!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113170)





Date: July 21st, 2006 7:46 PM
Author: fulano

let me add my lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270140)





Date: July 26th, 2006 8:59 PM
Author: baywindows

this is one of the best "-PWN3D" combos I've seen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308815)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 6:49 PM
Author: settle (your voice is rapping on my window sill )

a milli

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087633)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:29 AM
Author: 174

HAHHAHAHA, that is awesome! Who would publish that?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109079)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: O RLY?

After reading his email, I can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113185)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM
Author: 174

x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109018)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:21 AM
Author: Tim Daotua

It's like he won a fucking Oscar or something. Woohoo, I convinced a bunch of 25 year-old fags to print my slop!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109023)





Date: July 21st, 2006 7:54 PM
Author: George Michael's BSA Jacket

"I convinced a bunch of 25 year-old fags to print my slop!"

Possibly my favorite post of the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270190)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:21 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

But he has to thank his library widow and the prof who taught him to think like a lawyer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109027)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:31 AM
Author: 174

If anyone ever told me to "think like a lawyer" I would kick them in the teeth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109092)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:03 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

credited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113173)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: trendspotter

Fortunately, no one would ever expect you to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113280)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:22 AM
Author: Farm Implements and Crapturds in a Landscape

"think like a lawyer," the battle cry of TTT students

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109038)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

The resourcefulness of this board never ceases to amaze me. Looking up his note on westlaw - on the one hand, so obvious; on the other, pure genius.

I love you people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109063)





Date: March 13th, 2007 11:21 AM
Author: TTT14

BASH BASH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747240)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:23 AM
Author: Americanski (Perfect games of Stroock Bowl: 50)

This can't be real, right? I mean, it can't be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109041)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:24 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

I'd like to think people like this don't exist, but then after seeing that long-winded author footnote...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109049)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:32 AM
Author: 174

v

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109099)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:03 PM
Author: ttboy

if you knew the guy you would know that it is real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110674)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:25 AM
Author: 1980

does anyone on xoxo know him IRL?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109055)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:28 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

His grandkids might post here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109072)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 6:26 PM
Author: dot dot dot perior period space hyphen space

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087575)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM
Author: Subotai, thief and archer

No wonder everyone assumes all us nontrads are gunner-douches. What an ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109064)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

at least he understands that this isn't going to work. he might get a couple hints about being less of a douche in the future. all he wasted was time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109065)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:28 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

Well this email is starting to circulate widely (there were 50+ people it was forwarded to before it got to me). At this rate no one is going to want to hire him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109073)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:30 AM
Author: 174

Especially when this thread starts showing up on Google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109086)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:32 AM
Author: 1980

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109098)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:33 AM
Author: 174

Yep, that should do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109103)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:34 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

Not cool, man. You just really fucked some innocent dude name Goerge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109116)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:36 AM
Author: 1980

who knows, they might misspell his name when they run the search.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109127)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:17 PM
Author: Jimmy McNulty

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270909)





Date: July 26th, 2006 9:34 PM
Author: still not a player

You clearly have no idea how google works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6309093)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:31 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

When I am a BIGLAW partner in 8 years, I am going to personally handwrite the address on the ding letter we send to a 47 year-old George Luce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109090)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:43 AM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

someone will hire him.

he's got a decent resume.

he's screwed for really prestigious places, but i'm sure some v100 will probably give him a shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109169)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:45 AM
Author: Walker-Thomas Furniture Co.

George Luce has a son at Minnesota?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109179)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:46 AM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

douches of a feather flock together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109184)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:45 AM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

also, this is like saying my letter to brooklyn was widely circulated and will have a bad effect on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109181)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:32 AM
Author: One Seventy-Four

George Luce = nontrad douchebag at NU = Moonshine Hillbilly?

Probably not, but it would be funny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109102)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:33 AM
Author: 1980

own3d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109107)





Date: June 30th, 2006 2:34 AM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

This guy is already one year out, so no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109112)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:58 AM
Author: Evan-2001

you guys are funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109408)





Date: June 30th, 2006 4:00 AM
Author: Evan-2001

here's "Carliss Chatman," the attorney who forwarded the email

http://wc.studentaffairs.duke.edu/wc/images/fof01_CarlissChatman_385px.jpg

WTF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109410)





Date: June 30th, 2006 4:12 AM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

that is so not what i expected a Carliss Chatman to look like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109430)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:23 AM
Author: M.I.T.T.E.N.S. (angry Loaner)

Her blog is entitled "It's Easy to Find Jesus When You've Run Out of Cocaine," which I assume is a dig at the president, which seems pretty ballsy when you work at V & E in Houston. Small wonder she's hidden/deleted it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109848)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: trendspotter

Fwiw, Bush could always afford cocaine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113307)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:26 AM
Author: Evan-2001

i thought it'd be a prissy dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109869)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:15 PM
Author: -+-_=== (gonna shine on homie until the sun goes down)

exactly. some WASPy fucker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110782)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:28 PM
Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (put him in a body bag!)

i imagine there's a lot of quickly concealed confusion at meetings when carliss chatman shows up for the first time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110865)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: aznaznaznanzaznazn

This is funny!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113189)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:27 PM
Author: Jesus Gypsy (Engineers do not pipette semen.)

She needs a retro-active ding. What a beast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270980)





Date: June 30th, 2006 4:38 AM
Author: The California Bar (I'm Green Means Stop and STFU!)

ty ty ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109462)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:25 AM
Author: M.I.T.T.E.N.S. (angry Loaner)

This thread = instant classic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109864)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:30 AM
Author: Lucky Wang (#1 in Hot Dog Law!)

Unbelievable. Best of all, its poorly written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109896)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:42 AM
Author: I Agree With Idiots!!!

I love this guy!!! He really deserved to get the job!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110014)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:54 AM
Author: ICE (Chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear)

Beautiful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110105)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:42 AM
Author: franklyn

This could and should get him fired from his clerkship. You think the staff attorney -- or the judge who hired her -- appreciates a clerk talking about how inferior her lawyerly skillz are?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110018)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:53 AM
Author: Evan-2001

he also attacks the skills of the "oil and gas" associates - apparently thinking this would help land him the job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110099)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:12 PM
Author: i_need_a_nap

LOL.... that part was the highlight of his arrogant gunner-douche missive for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110752)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: trendspotter

Yeah, I already copied that section for pasting:

"The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113319)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:46 AM
Author: Evan-2001

the total lack of self-awareness is priceless. i keep reading and re-reading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110050)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:21 PM
Author: msbdtxnyc

I read it with Dwight Schrutte's voice in my head.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110819)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:49 AM
Author: Subotai, thief and archer

He'll get in everywhere he re-applies!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110074)





Date: June 30th, 2006 10:56 AM
Author: Evan-2001

i'm gonna fuck the living shit out of josefina luce

sounds like a total venezuelan trophy wife/maid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110114)





Date: June 30th, 2006 11:17 AM
Author: penelope

Who the fuck uses exclamation points in a business letter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110283)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 6:58 PM
Author: potatoe

George Luce, thats who

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087666)





Date: June 30th, 2006 11:55 AM
Author: Hirofromthefuture

tragic.

this is almost as good as "bla bla bla"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110613)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:12 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

The pink shirt and the hair transplants might bring it about even.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113248)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:01 PM
Author: O RLY?

This is the best law review at NU will get you?

HAHA. Where's Joe_Vaj when we need him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110661)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:03 PM
Author: *.*.*

He might not have been on law review at Northwestern. In fact, he could have had bad grades. He just said that he got a paper published on the NU law review.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110676)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:05 PM
Author: O RLY?

True. I posted that mostly to bring Joe_Vaj out of the woodwork for some trolling fun.

You could be law review at Harvard, but if you're a giant douchebag like that dude no one will want to hire you. I think we all know someone like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110691)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:02 PM
Author: ttboy

holy crap. I know that guy. I graduated in his class at NU. He was a 2005 grad so he has been out of work for awhile. He was weird, although not as weird as Zve Rosenberg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110668)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:06 PM
Author: penelope

Fat? He sounds fat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110703)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:07 PM
Author: ttboy

no. really skinny. The funny thing is that the two weirdest people in our class were George (the oldest) and Zve (the youngest)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110716)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:08 PM
Author: penelope

Is his speech impediment really noticable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110723)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:12 PM
Author: ttboy

George's? no, not particularly. I assumed he would get a job somewhere. He didn't even look that old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110751)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:09 PM
Author: O RLY?

Zve Rosenberg sounds like a fundamentalist Jew of some sort. Was he? That would explain the weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110730)





Date: June 30th, 2006 12:11 PM
Author: ttboy

no. he just had a really strong lisp and stutter and was amazingly hard to communicate with. very nice guy though, just was in a different world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110744)





Date: August 13th, 2006 2:40 AM
Author: nwulawyer
Subject: That's incorrect, ttboy

Close but wrong. In the 2005 class, Zvi was the third youngest. Hudson Hollister was younger than Zvi and Mike Lawyer was the youngest in the class.

Btw, from what I heard from another 1L in our section at the time, George Luce got a C+ in Civ Pro with Hoskins. I wonder if that's true. Anyways, he sure was a nice, friendly guy. I'm sorry to see him getting so publicly pwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6429950)





Date: June 30th, 2006 4:47 PM
Author: [Board administrators control this account.] (HACKED)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113086)





Date: June 30th, 2006 4:56 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

99th percentile LSAT --> NU?

Law review + clerkship --> Ding at Texas oil firm?

LIFEPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113138)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

I think upon reading closely, you'll see that those accomplishments you say he has were slightly inflated.

He wasn't necessarily ON LR, but had his note published. He didn't have a clerkship, but from what I read, it was an externship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113220)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

It reads as if he did an externship AND a clerkship.

And not even student editors would publish an 85 page note about nothing important for someone who wasn't on LR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113268)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

I didn't see anything about a clerkship, I'll have to read it again.

EDIT: Ok, saw that paragraph. RCPWNED. Damn, what a douche

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113279)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:21 PM
Author: O RLY?

His email is at Louisiana Middle District.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113331)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:19 PM
Author: O RLY?

It doesn't appear that he was on LR. At least, he was never an editor.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/lawreview/editorialboard/editorialboard2004-2005.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113316)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

Holyfuckingshit. The NU law review publishes 85 page crap on employment law from non-lr members?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113389)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:49 PM
Author: O RLY?

Unless all NU LR members don't become members, apparently yes.

With most journals, everyone becomes some sort of editor. Can any NU students confirm this is true on NULR?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113557)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:23 PM
Author: Reade_Seligmann

i have never heard of a non lr student getting published in the lr. This is a first to my knowledge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113842)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:25 PM
Author: O RLY? (Hazle)

But if he'd been on LR, his name would have been listed as some sort of editor for one of the years he was on it, correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113856)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:27 PM
Author: Reade_Seligmann

he would either be listed as an editor during his 3L year or a staff member during his 2L year. sometimes though, people write on and their names don't make the first edition of the staff member section.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113871)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:28 PM
Author: O RLY? (Hazle)

OK, I didn't see staff members listed anywhere, but he was never listed as an editor. So does that mean he wasn't on LR? Or that he may have been on as a 2L but quit as a 3L or something?

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113875)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:44 PM
Author: GeorgeLuce

They were too dumb for me. My lack of "experience" in law reviews is more than compensated for by my general intelligence!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113521)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:01 PM
Author: Done and done

Fish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113159)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:01 PM
Author: zxcvzxcv

Fish is one or two years behind this guy (I think). He's working in NYC as a summer associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113163)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

I live for threads like this.

Does "library widow" even make sense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113182)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (put him in a body bag!)

perhaps the 161 is accurate after all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113275)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:19 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

I'm glad this joke will never get old. ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113313)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: aznaznaznanzaznazn

I commend GTO as the OP, and every single comment contained herein. This is why I love xoxo more than irl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113216)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: Al Davis's leaky brain

WOW! This is Big Tex quality douchebaggery.

I can't believe he put his LSAT % in the letter. Is he fucking insane? And what was with all his IT bullshit?

Offering to get a hair transplant though is what pushes him over the cliff for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113217)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

I like the pink shirt line, with the (very important) caveat that his wife picked it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113264)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Al Davis's leaky brain

Which basically says he can't pick his own clothes out, but was concerned enough about it to seek to distance himself from the decision by throwing her under the bus.

Classy guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113284)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

ti,oc,tcr.

The continued and unnecessary use of parentheses also made this very difficult to read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113308)





Date: July 1st, 2006 12:46 PM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6117623)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:22 PM
Author: trendspotter

"The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer."

Better hope the clerk's office doesn't get wind of this statement before the firm calls to re-check his credentials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113345)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: Al Davis's leaky brain

After rereading the email, I now think this has to be flame. How about when he says Lawyers are risk averse. Why say something so stoopid? I mean that is like right off XO.

And he says, "At risk of sounding arrogant ..." Who would say something so stoopid.

If not flame, something like this should really ruin his career if their was any justice in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113386)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: O RLY?

>>Who would say something so stoopid.

Have you ever talked to a nontrad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113400)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:30 PM
Author: Al Davis's leaky brain

Sure. Some dood in my section is 30-35 and he is one of the nicest, coolest, most laid back doods in school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113412)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: O RLY?

Where do you go to school? I'm going to send a team of anthropologists to observe him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113421)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:32 PM
Author: Al Davis's leaky brain

I really don't think this dood is indoicative of any class of people, other than the douchebag class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113430)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:51 PM
Author: O RLY?

No, I definitely can think of at least four nontrads I graduated with who would do something like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113576)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: HotIvyUg

Obiously worse even than LLMs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113423)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:33 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

The best part about this thread is that someone reading this thread is going to, at some point, run into "George Luce" during the course of his/her career. And promptly burst out laughing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113438)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:47 PM
Author: GeorgeLuce

bla bla bla

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113539)





Date: June 30th, 2006 5:57 PM
Author: Implied Warrantonin

I can't believe it's real; it's just too perfect for xoxo...but if it's fake, it was incredibly elaborate to research the names of 4 V&E junior associates who were the original forwarders, etc...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113622)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:24 PM
Author: Reade_Seligmann

wow are people at my law school such douchetards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113851)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:27 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

See, for example, Reade_Seligmann

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113869)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:28 PM
Author: Reade_Seligmann

getting into b-school wipes away all my sins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113876)





Date: June 30th, 2006 6:29 PM
Author: done and done (not a chick, ty in advance)

You may be right about that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113881)





Date: July 21st, 2006 5:56 PM
Author: JustDroppinIn
Subject: Confidentiality

You know, Someone should tell Ms. Chatman it is not a good idea to blast stuff like this in e-mail to people you can't trust (or period for that matter) without deleting some names or something. It would be funny if someone let some partners of this firm know about what was going on. I don't think I'd want Ms. Chatman working for me knowing that she can't keep her mouth shut or take measures to insure confidentiality.

Here are the e-mails (all at velaw.com):

rschick, sdavis (PARTNER), jdavidow, dharvin (PARTNER), epipkin, nkornegay, pmehta, grmurphy (PARTNER), jhodge, jreeder (PARTNER), cchatman (the e-mailer herself), kheld (PARTNER), clawson, jpowers, aomar. Then there are the folks that Ms. Chatman sent the e-mail to that most likely leaked it: hrumbaugh, pdennis, tlankau.

Ms. Chatman, If you are reading this... You chose the wrong people to trust. Next time take out names and such before you forward this around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269249)





Date: July 21st, 2006 5:58 PM
Author: zxcvzxcv

Go right ahead, jackass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269279)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:08 PM
Author: Titus Pullo

Hi George.

P.S.: What the hell were you thinking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269361)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:15 PM
Author: JustDroppinIn

I just didn't understand why they didn't hire me and wanted them to reconsider. I was perfect for that job. I just thought that showing them how much I wanted the job they would maybe reconsider. I'm sure I'm smarter than you... You obviously have nothing better to do than sit on a computer and put down other people all day. Get a fucking life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269417)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:17 PM
Author: Tim Daotua

I suggest dropping this whole thing now before you make it any worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269427)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:18 PM
Author: Titus Pullo

It actually wasn't a bad letter until you got to the paragraph asking why they didn't hire you and listing all of your insecurities. If you had left that paragraph out (and the line about being smarter than your co-clerk), you wouldn't be the laughing stock of the legal world - there's no way they would have reconsidered and given you the job, but at least you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself.

Also, FYI, telling everybody how smart you are is not the way to get a job, make friends, or accomplish anything else in life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269447)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:19 PM
Author: rk982 (now $20,000/year more legal advice)

You are either wonderful flame or the best new poster in ages. Welcome!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269454)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:19 PM
Author: PeterGunz

Welcome, George!!!

Oh my God...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269452)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:50 PM
Author: Yaz (You can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.)

i think it's jess_w3@hotmail.com

see the last comment

http://prdifferently.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/what_not_to_do_.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269720)





Date: July 21st, 2006 7:23 PM
Author: PeterGunz

He seems to have admitted that he's George, or at least flaming as George.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269990)





Date: July 21st, 2006 7:59 PM
Author: Yaz (You can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.)

email the addy above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270212)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:22 PM
Author: rk982 (now $20,000/year more legal advice)

Um, what was the confidential information that she disclosed here? And how would your judge feel about your insulting his career clerk in an email to a bunch of "the wrong people to trust"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269480)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:29 PM
Author: zxcvzxcv

Good catch. I was wondering about that.

As for the "career clerk" slight, that's just BS. I wish there was some way of that getting into the hands of the judge (not the career clerk).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269525)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:31 PM
Author: rk982 (now $20,000/year more legal advice)

I don't think there's much to be gained by getting this email in the hands of the guy's judge. He's a douchebag, but he's doing a good enough job of self-pwning that there's really no reason to add fuel to the fire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269539)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:33 PM
Author: zxcvzxcv

I was leaning toward that conclusion. You are a calm voice in these troubled times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269559)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:15 PM
Author: zxcvzxcv

Google is now aware of this thread: http://www.google.com/search?q=george%20luce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269414)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:20 PM
Author: rk982 (now $20,000/year more legal advice)

Beautiful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269462)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:22 PM
Author: Jimmy McNulty

It's number 4 on google. Let's try to make it #1 by tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270949)





Date: July 21st, 2006 10:28 PM
Author: brianpeppers

a good way to do that is to click on the link after searching george luce. also links to this thread on other websites help.

remember when searching miserable failure pointed you at the white house site? thats how they did it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270983)





Date: July 21st, 2006 6:46 PM
Author: Scalito



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269689)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:33 AM
Author: brianpeppers

How long till this email shows up in law blogs like the hudson river girl/other email blunders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271742)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:39 AM
Author: Titus Pullo

http://www.legalreader.com/archives/003352.html

http://drunklaw.blogspot.com/2006/07/schadenfreude.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271786)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:45 AM
Author: brianpeppers

nice. hopefully it will make its way into the higher traffic blogs and eventually a newspaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271814)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:44 AM
Author: nougat

It's already been forwarded around by my school's career services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271810)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:45 AM
Author: brianpeppers

thats awesome. what kind of introduction did it come with?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271818)





Date: July 26th, 2006 7:33 PM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka

It seems to be picking up some momentum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308350)





Date: July 22nd, 2006 1:09 AM
Author: Poorly Written User Documentation

he was a computer programmer in his past life? well, it certainly shows in his douchey letter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271938)





Date: July 26th, 2006 7:47 PM
Author: travis bickle

SOMEONE PWN GEORGE LUCAS WITH A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE COMPLETE WITH PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!1

pwn3d!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308432)





Date: July 26th, 2006 7:49 PM
Author: travis bickle

THIS THREAD IS NOW #1 ON GOOGLE FOR GEORGE LUCE!!!! SOMEONE SEND A LINK TO DRUGEREPORT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOL worldwide pwn georgie-boy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308441)





Date: July 26th, 2006 7:50 PM
Author: travis bickle

how did google get wind of this so fast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308449)





Date: July 26th, 2006 8:34 PM
Author: Hokey

Does anyone know which judge he clerked for? I have a feeling it's the same judge I interned for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308696)





Date: July 26th, 2006 9:11 PM
Author: asdf12345

You know, except for the paragraph about his experience as an extern, most of this isn't THAT bad. The last paragraph is probably a bit embarassing, but sometimes people make rash decisions.

You don't trash / insult the abilities of others though. That's classless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308883)





Date: July 28th, 2006 12:33 PM
Author: NewTaxAssoc
Subject: *bump*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6321966)





Date: July 31st, 2006 11:06 AM
Author: Lumbering Legumes on the Linoleum

I missed this thread when it first came out. I am very grateful to have seen it now. Thank you, xoxo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6343265)





Date: August 13th, 2006 5:25 PM
Author: Judge_Friendly

Did he go to a TTT undergrad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6431428)





Date: March 13th, 2007 11:20 AM
Author: TTT14

BASH, BASH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747238)





Date: March 13th, 2007 11:22 AM
Author: TTT14

GTO google-bombed George Luce: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22george+luce%22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747245)





Date: March 13th, 2007 11:30 AM
Author: LightWeight

Just read a post from a year ago but ill comment anyway...

This guy wasnt hired because he wasnt qualified or because of his age. He wasnt hired becuase hes a COMPLETE DOUCHEBAG. God who wants people like him as co-workers. He'd be a total cancer to the firm and bring down everyones morale and work product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747273)





Date: March 13th, 2007 12:51 PM
Author: MagicMan

He didn't show up on Martindale, think he is employed anywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747610)





Date: June 9th, 2007 2:41 PM
Author: .. ......... ...... ..............................


looks like he may still be clerking... ?

http://www.lsba.org/membership/LSBA_Membership.asp?ID=2006569



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234751)





Date: May 3rd, 2007 5:44 PM
Author: TTT14

Sucks to not get a job, huh GTO?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8055602)





Date: June 8th, 2007 7:09 PM
Author: UPENN HAS A LAW SCHOOL???? (I D K...my BFF Jill Filipovic?)

thing is, *he* probably got a firm job eventually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8232177)





Date: May 3rd, 2007 6:01 PM
Author: ...................,,,,,,.,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8055691)





Date: June 9th, 2007 12:41 PM
Author: rigitiroo

Wow... just came across this thread...

I was in George's section in my first year law class. George is a terrific guy and I hate to see this happening to such a genuinely good person (No, I am not George).

George may have made an error in judgment. If we were all judged solely by the worst decisions we made, none of us would look good in a thread such as this one.

In the event that prospective employers may read this in the future, take it from someone who attended law school with him: George is an industrious, bright guy. He made a mistake and I'm sure he has learned from it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234342)





Date: June 9th, 2007 1:16 PM
Author: J.K.

"(No, I am not George)" - hi george

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234446)





Date: June 9th, 2007 1:21 PM
Author: adalia (watching her life pass her by)

titcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234467)





Date: June 9th, 2007 2:07 PM
Author: [officially retired from this disgusting hellhole]



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234604)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:01 PM
Author: Query08

The real villian in this whole affair was that mean bitch Carliss Chatman that forwarded the email with snarky comments. Yeah, the guy Luce is nuts but Chatman showed TERRIBLE judgment in the way she handled it. Luckily V&E got rid of that bitch but now she is at Morgan Lewis, even a bigger TTT.

Carliss Chatman, I wouldn't hire you to fight a $20 traffic ticket. You suck.

http://www.morganlewis.com/index.cfm/personID/757ea85c-989f-45a3-ad0f-f616844b73fa/fromSearch/1/fuseaction/people.viewBio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087685)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:27 PM
Author: Future Secretary of Defense Eric Shinseki

i was gonna jump on board until i noticed she was black. pretty atypical for a black person to be a snarky passive-aggressive bitch. she must have some white blood as a creole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087787)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:36 PM
Author: Alaska: Like a Microcosm of America

I would hope you wouldn't hire anyone to fight a $20 traffic ticket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087807)





Date: August 22nd, 2008 11:47 PM
Author: .......,.,.,.,,,,.,..........., (the kid who only hit homers)


Seems like guy ended up finding a job in his home state and actually was on LR - good for him (sort of).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10088679)