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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:35 PM Author: Irate Contagious Genital Piercing Digit Ratio I imagine the answer is "yes" but there is a lot of denial that goes on and lots of talk of taking the SAT with dysentery and "not studying haha" but idk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965198) |
Date: April 7th, 2020 9:36 PM Author: Floppy internet-worthy address back in the day? no
now? prob yes |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:44 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse many of them do.
most of us are just lucky. |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:45 PM Author: cheese-eating area travel guidebook your parents need to be alums or well placed in society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965286) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:46 PM Author: Indigo motley spot yes there are 17 year olds on reddit who are like rate my college choices {Yale, Columbia, Duke} what will my private equity headhunter think is best in 4.5 years, btw I might also do "AI" they have no souls |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: Irate Contagious Genital Piercing Digit Ratio lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965294) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:53 PM Author: Indigo motley spot every incarnation of the SAT lowers the ceiling too which rewards the midwit grinders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965329) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:00 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse yeah, but the superstrivers are really just competing for entry into the fancy school lottery.
i think harvard still does a good job of grabbing many of the actual smart kids. |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:15 AM Author: Supple lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966440) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:33 PM Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone theater hated these fags in school
not many in my grade but i knew a shitload in the grades under/above me |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:47 PM Author: fuchsia massive property gaming laptop Wtf, I respect the hell out of these people and hope my kids are like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39971433) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:51 PM Author: Indigo motley spot bunch of future JJCs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39971451) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:59 PM Author: fuchsia massive property gaming laptop At least they're not losers that are in a bunch of threads promoting socialism and begging for handouts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39971503) |
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Date: April 9th, 2020 6:10 PM Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone theater Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39978563) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:43 PM Author: Adventurous Box Office have you ever been on WSO's "business school" section? it's full of HS seniors asking which UGs would be best for ibanking
from a 10 sec scroll through the front page:
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/undergrad-nyu-stern-vs-cornell-as-econ
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/college-decision-canadian-vs-us-schools
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/canadian-hs-senior-weighing-pros-and-cons-of-going-to-the-us
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/cornell-econ-vs-vanderbilt-econ |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:03 PM Author: Indigo motley spot I know it's gonna be beaten into their heads by their classmates in their first few months anyway that they need to strive their balls off to be UMC professional services wagecucks but seeing pre-frosh think like this is very sad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39972633) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:27 PM Author: Adventurous Box Office in hs one summer i got a job at a tutoring center for like SATs/ACTs/etc. most of the kids who went there were dumbs whose striver UMC parents who wanted their kids to succeed despite obvious low IQ/low interest in academics
i mostly did clerical shit, and like watched kids who finished their work who were waiting in the reception area before their parents picked them up. one kid was an AZN in the 6th or 7th grade who was there for SAT stuff. seemed like a nice kid and would talk to me, and id shoot the shit with him, and i asked him once why he liked math so much once and he was like 'it'll help to be an investment banker, to calculate compound interest and stuff'. not flame |
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Date: April 9th, 2020 6:07 PM Author: Indigo motley spot GC even reels in the actual smart kids, look at who sponsors all the math enrichment programs and contests for high schoolers (quant trading companies) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39978545) |
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Date: April 9th, 2020 7:47 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39979287) |
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Date: April 9th, 2020 6:13 PM Author: Curious Bbw jfc at the cornell vs vanderbilt one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39978587) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:49 PM Author: Bateful swollen nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965306) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:49 PM Author: Ivory Native Azn heroin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965313) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:17 PM Author: Translucent hateful parlour ratface Yeah this was my original thought as well. Lol, at how prole and deranged we really are luis! Also, it’s a game we’ll never win. We weren’t even invited to play! |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:20 PM Author: Ivory Native Azn crrrrr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966049) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:55 AM Author: Irradiated meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966629) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:53 PM Author: 180 Onyx Prole Yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39971465) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:51 PM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena In most cases, yes. You have to make a lot of sacrifices, including not just studying hard or whatever but identifying on a fundamental level as one of the "smart" kids and not one of the "cool" kids. Pretty hard to have a normal adolescence and get into H. Even the legacy kids, kids from feeder prep schools, etc., have to do this to a certain extent. It's a little easier for Jewish kids who are benefitting from the blatant discrimination of the (((administration))), a little harder for Asians and average white kids, harder still for whites from lowly backgrounds in ARE country. But they all have to work hard.
That being said, there are two huge back doors. The first of course is affirmative action for URM's. H still gets the best of the best of those groups, but on an objective level, they don't put in as much work as the others to get in.
The second massive, wide-swinging back door, which is less well-known, is athletic recruiting. Sports are actually really important at H, and the admissions office wants to help the coaches field good teams. And H has the most varsity sports of any college in the country. Probably part of the WASP legacy of being a renaissance man who is as successful on the field as he is in the classroom. But today, that noble ethos has been perverted into a bizarre system in which kids who are middling athletes and slightly above average students are ushered into H on a red carpet. The football team is a particularly noticeable example, because of its size and because of its members. These kids often fail to take advantage of, or even appreciate, the many opportunities that H offers, academically and otherwise, but form a large part of the in-crowd on campus due to greater confidence and social skills formed during semi-normal adolescences.
The administration has created some bizarre incentives. But most administrators are so disconnected from the basic realities of modern American life that they don't even notice what is happening in front of them. |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:53 PM Author: Sick dashing boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965331) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:56 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse football kids are much less a part of the "in-crowd" at harvard than at other schools (hell, this is the case at most "good" schools in the northeast). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965351) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena Fair enough, the football guys sometimes keep to themselves because they just so blatantly don't fit in with the rest of the campus. But my point stands. I remember hearing a lacrosse guy making fun of the nerds around him during my freshman year. And the reality is that he was right. The regular H kids were nerds compared to the lacrosse players. They had spent their teenage years grinding and racking up academic acheivements, extracurricular achievements, etc. But so what? One of the biggest things that H taught me is that everyone, no matter how low on the social totem pole, has something to offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965384) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:03 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse i think the biggest problem with the football kids socially is that so many of them are from flyover country.
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:06 PM Author: Bateful swollen nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965466) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:12 PM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena That very well may be.
Do you agree or disagree with my larger points? I think athletics are great, I wore the DHA's myself. And some athletes obviously did deserve to get into H based on academics. But I also saw some ridiculous examples of people who never would have been anywhere near the Ivies if it weren't for the preferential treatment of athletic recruiting. |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:15 PM Author: Indigo motley spot hard to be MAF at athletes when Hahvard is a consolation prize for them vs. schools that get on TV and have pro scouting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965541) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:09 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse ?
harvard is only a consolation prize for football players who didn't get recruited by stanford or ND or basketball players who couldn't pull duke. |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:12 PM Author: Indigo motley spot if they're actually good and not benchwarmers seeking the intersection of good school and alright sports wouldn't they have like 30 other names on their list before Harvard or any nerd school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965971) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:14 PM Author: Diverse University HYP athletes have life MADE for them. The absolute bottom for them is cushy job, living in a UMC suburb with some former field hockey/soccer chick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965991) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:21 PM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena Sort of. I was shocked when I went to a reunion recently and saw how badly these people have aged, athletes and non-athletes. I think a lot of them end up living very stressful lives. Lots of people seemed to have gone from starting out doing banking/consulting to doing some other random thing that was much less prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966057) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:26 PM Author: Diverse University Interesting. I went to a "lower Ivy" with more diverse outcomes. Maybe I'm romanticing HYP too much.
You mentioned some of the dumber athletes. What's a sport besides fb/bb/hockey where the athletes were surprisingly dumb? There were def a couple of those at my school |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:53 AM Author: vengeful whorehouse they don't really exist (teams), but there are obviously some dumb individuals here and there (dumb meaning ~1300 SAT) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966619) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:28 AM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena I'll confess, I was in good ol' Math X my freshman year, the lowest math class that H offered. On the first day, the teacher asked us to go around the room and say our names and something about ourselves. Everyone just said what sport they were playing, except for like one guy. It was a little microcosm of the athletic department. Lots of football guys, but a sprinkling of people from lots of different sports. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39967415) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 2:20 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse ha, nice man. did you place into 1a at least? i should have taken math x. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39970020) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:40 PM Author: lascivious dilemma striped hyena That was the end of my regular math classes. I eventually took stats and econometrics, which was probably the single hardest thing that I've ever done academically, but also one of the most rewarding. Not going to pretend to be a math genius by H standards, but I eventually gained a great appreciation for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39972499) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:22 PM Author: Indigo motley spot I suppose yeah but many athletes don't think that way, my HS friends in golf all wanted to go the best golf school ignoring nearly all other factors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966063) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:25 PM Author: Diverse University Well if they're pro potential, then yeah. But if you're not PGA tour potential and you're smart enough to go HYP, there's not much reason not to unless you get a full scholly to Texas or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966098) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:31 PM Author: Indigo motley spot There's probably a split somewhere between doods who love their sport and think they'll make it pro even if they probably won't and UMC wagecuck material who think "sure I'll go to (Ivy) and make powerpoints for a living/be a doctor/whatever that sounds cool", the latter group was probably gunning for that all along (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966141) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:26 PM Author: Dun sadistic brethren Not true wrt cushy jobs. Plenty end up back office in banks, or doing things like tech sales, recruiting, or wealth management. The best jobs still go to the people with the highest GPAs, just like at lower ivies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39971333) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:38 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse those are all cushy jobs, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39972485) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:06 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse a few ridiculous examples, sure, but mostly in football/basketball/hockey. the rest of the sports are full of 1400+ kids in the top 5 percent of their private or UMC public schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965924) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:13 PM Author: Diverse University I think it's more 1300+ or 1250+, which if you go to a top private school is just kind of acceptable.
For FB, BB, Hockey they'll dip into the 1100 range I think |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:55 AM Author: vengeful whorehouse "dip" meaning the football and basketball teams get one or two black kids per class with 1180s, sure.
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:43 AM Author: Diverse University I think it's worse than that. Amaker's recruits were apparently having trouble meeting the Ivy league minimum, which is probably something like 1000 SAT with decent grades in easy courses. For the right athlete in bball or hockey, all I've read is that H will go lower than you'd believe. Football is a bit different because of numbers, so they go low but that THAT low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39967230) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:03 PM Author: Diverse University Laxers, meanwhile, are mostly from affluent Northeast suburbs, while being relatively (but not too) smart and pull lots of tail. Laxers are at or near the top of the social heap at basically every top school it seems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965893) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:09 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse my man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965956) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:13 PM Author: Diverse University I've had women taken by these fuckers, I know haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965984) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:57 AM Author: vengeful whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966639) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:49 AM Author: Diverse University every ACC school that has the sport, sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39967235) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 10:53 PM Author: vengeful whorehouse (poor guy standing outside the AD on a saturday night, a single tear slowly making its way down his cheek) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39973173) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:47 PM Author: Transparent Den Yeah I don't see how you can be a "normal" teen and get into HUG (excluding URM and athletes).
The overall acceptance rate at HUG is around 4-5%, but even that number is deceptive. For the class of 2023, the acceptance rate for early action applicants was 13.4%, with roughly half the class being filled by early admits. The reason why the acceptance rate is "high" is because the applicant pool is primarily comprised of athletes and legacies on one hand and superstars on the other. You are not going to waste your early option on Harvard unless you are pretty sure you have a legit shot at getting in. So the early pool is remarkably strong. The regular decision acceptance rate for the class of 2023 was 2.8%. If you are a regular white/Asian kid with no legacy or athlete status and not from an elite high school, the acceptance rate will be far below 2.8%. In many states, you literally see only a handful of those kids get into HUG each year. |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:58 PM Author: Indigo motley spot JJC this is your "retired" account...
JJC here: retiring on June 1
Date: May 7th, 2015 8:35 PM Author: ,,.......,...,...,..,
it's finally time. with work starting in early July and this board becoming more unhinged and racist, it's time to quit for good. before i go, a couple of posters made requests on threads/issues that they wanted me to touch upon. so i'm taking requests here and will do a master thread of sorts before i retire.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874473&forum_id=2#27844344) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:54 AM Author: Canary Sneaky Criminal Piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39967240) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:59 PM Author: Indigo motley spot How is overall "deceptive" that's a composite of early and regular and that's all it claims to be Jfc get smarter man |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:01 PM Author: Nudist well-lubricated lettuce What is this, xo 2008? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965399) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 10:15 PM Author: stirring orchestra pit Nah. You'd think that some of these grinders would burn out and get on it to calm down, but in general I find the kids who get into H were just stoners in HS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39965549) |
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Date: April 7th, 2020 11:21 PM Author: sable passionate partner candlestick maker IME-yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966053) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 12:26 AM Author: Olive Mildly Autistic Fortuitous Meteor No. Just be jewish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39966498) |
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Date: April 8th, 2020 5:56 AM Author: Domesticated garrison chad No, being on H makes them lazy and listless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4501904&forum_id=2#39967242) |
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