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I lay out Exeunt's reasoning for calling the stock market crash + rebound (DTP)

There are two types of people in this world: virusfraudmos, ...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
Aren't holdbulls the real smart ones?
chest-beating church building affirmative action
  04/08/20
some of us want to get rich quick, and are determined to cra...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
Are you broke? What do you do for a living?
stubborn vigorous church bbw
  04/08/20
He's a Harvard law grad, lmao
Floppy french pit
  04/08/20
chronic depressedmo, same career path as luis yes broke
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
(HLS alum biglawyer)
Floppy french pit
  04/08/20
so in other words, it's too late to buy the dip?
pungent meetinghouse
  04/08/20
i dunoo maybe you should ask him directly. i wouldn't want t...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
It’s sill down 20%, so technically still is a dip
Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman
  04/08/20
...
Floppy french pit
  04/08/20
u have a tendency to over analyze and make things much clean...
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
your very very clearly stated reasoning that what happens in...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
response? in essence this was the magical part, and i mean t...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
it's not that magical, bro, and NYC's trajectory didn't exac...
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
i'm giving you credit. the reasoning of the importance of NY...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
historically if you look back at the aftermath of (say) katr...
Hyperactive boyish headpube goyim
  04/08/20
i get what you're saying, but it's really not comparable to ...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/08/20
so it's not too late to buy the dip?
pungent meetinghouse
  04/08/20
we're back to a price we last saw 3/13 and the market is sti...
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
so what should i buy specifically-- VTI?
pungent meetinghouse
  04/08/20
yeah. throw in some VBR if u want. note that this kind of...
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
ty friend
pungent meetinghouse
  04/08/20
what would you recommend for someone with an extremely high ...
Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman
  04/08/20
crypto
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
ok but i prefer actual companies. my best idea is SOXX
Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman
  04/08/20
no
dead demanding resort
  04/08/20
wtf why not k buying 500 eth tomorrow morning then
Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman
  04/08/20
...
Floppy french pit
  04/08/20
...
stirring liquid oxygen
  04/09/20
...
mint house
  04/09/20
what about Visa or McDs
Floppy french pit
  04/08/20
grossly expensive
dead demanding resort
  04/10/20
For crypto, do you need to have a view on shitcoins, or is j...
domesticated national security agency parlor
  04/10/20
...
Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman
  04/10/20
i own BTC, ETH, XTZ, FTT (not necessarily in that order of s...
dead demanding resort
  04/10/20
Good lord you’re a fucking annoying, awful fucking pos...
Vengeful avocado internal respiration area
  04/08/20
Fuck off, this thread is awesome. I didn't notice the "...
Coral Up-to-no-good Tanning Salon Circlehead
  04/09/20
ty i'm beginning to think the inexplicable outcome of exe...
concupiscible institution sex offender
  04/09/20
I don't want you actually in my subthreads, you are too hist...
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  04/10/20
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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:18 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

There are two types of people in this world: virusfraudmos, and virusbadmos. But to have made money in this market, you needed to have been both. Virusfraudmos lost money on the way down. And virusbadmos lost money on the way up. Exeunt made out like a bandit.

In late February, Exeunt knew there was going to be a problem: the virus had spread outside of China, and Western countries were not up to the task of containing it. Hence we would have a massive stock market crash. This was a very non-trivial prediction. This was despite the world's stock market having not moved an inch since the virus's emergence. Despite already 2 months of the world viewing the hellish landscape in China. Despite the Chinese having contained it, begun getting back to work, and the Chinese stock market shrugging it off and returning back to normal. Despite the deceleration in South Korea and successful containment in Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, etc. which did not employ China's draconian policies. Despite uncertainties about the virus's infectiousness and fatality parameters. Despite its tendency to kill mainly the old and ill. Despite the many examples in recent years of hyped viruses which had zero impact on the economy, from Ebola and SARS to Zika and swine flu. Exeunt knew that this virus was going to be very bad, and that the market had not priced in this information because sometimes the market can be very irrational.

Exeunt was right and, in the next 3 weeks, the market plummeted 30%+, the biggest and quickest stock market decline in history.

In late March, Exeunt suspected the market had priced in everything and would rebound quickly. He looked at the daily new infections in NYC and noticed they had leveled off. From the fact that NYC is the financial capital of the world where many of the money-heads reside, it was reasonable to surmise that the worst was over: If things can be contained in NYC, then it can also be contained elsewhere. This was despite the virus spreading to new hot spots in America and around the world. Despite the imprecision of data, the dearth of testing, and the heterogeneous nature of vast parts of the country. Despite the record high unemployment numbers. Despite the unprecedented nature of a simultaneous global shutdown. Despite months and perhaps years of social distancing. Despite repressed consumer demand, structural deficiencies being exposed, and an already overvalued market on top of a 10-year bull run. Despite the media blaring doomsday scenarios and the surgeon general warning of "the worst 2 weeks of our lives ahead" and the president blabbering about "death". Exeunt ignored all of this noise; after all the market only focuses on the essential. It is highly efficient, forward-looking, and quickly prices in. Exeunt calmly and coolly surveyed the publicly available data. He graphed the case count in NYC, cross-referenced with the situation in Seattle, and confirmed that the virus had become a big ol' nothingburger. The market was on its way to bouncing back, to 2018 levels, within 2 weeks.

(Note: I lost money on the way down AND on the way up.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972315)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:19 PM
Author: chest-beating church building affirmative action

Aren't holdbulls the real smart ones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972320)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:25 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

some of us want to get rich quick, and are determined to cracking the code to exeunt's undeniable success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972365)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:28 PM
Author: stubborn vigorous church bbw

Are you broke? What do you do for a living?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972385)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:30 PM
Author: Floppy french pit

He's a Harvard law grad, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972402)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:39 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

chronic depressedmo, same career path as luis

yes broke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972490)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: Floppy french pit

(HLS alum biglawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972502)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:26 PM
Author: pungent meetinghouse

so in other words, it's too late to buy the dip?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972374)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:28 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

i dunoo maybe you should ask him directly. i wouldn't want to be put words in exeunt's mouth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972380)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:28 PM
Author: Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman

It’s sill down 20%, so technically still is a dip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972384)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:30 PM
Author: Floppy french pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972404)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

u have a tendency to over analyze and make things much cleaner than they are. i haven't been 100% sure about anything as timing the market is hard. most of my guesses were done with maybe 65% confidence, not 100%, and i trade accordingly.

for example:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4487051&mc=14&forum_id=2#39860080

Date: March 25th, 2020 1:24 PM

Author: exeunt (0x6c542c3a976e324ccb84d594cbc084bd57597849)

feels like a bull trap to me.

my guess is if NYC doesn't see a yuuge surge in ICU patients and italy 2.0 in the next week or two, the bottom is in and you should buy stocks like crazy.

if NYC is italy 2.0, then we go down another 25% from here.

will NYC become italy 2.0? im leaning toward yes, but i could be wrong.

--

in this case, my guess was wrong (nyc was NOT italy 2.0), but once the trajectory for NYC became clearer, i started buying stock, but didn't go hogwild. i brought my portfolio closer to neutral risk, not overweight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972496)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:46 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

your very very clearly stated reasoning that what happens in NYC would determine the world, is the key insight. it's like finding the one-in-a-million needle in the haystack among a waterhose deluge of conflicting information and analyses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972530)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:00 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

response? in essence this was the magical part, and i mean that

a 30% stock market crash that mirrored precisely one city's disease trajectory. sure NYC is important, maybe even the most important, but there are hundreds of important cities out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972609)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:02 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

it's not that magical, bro, and NYC's trajectory didn't exactly mirror the crash.

also it's not hard to reason that NYC is critical to what the market does as it's literally the the center of the financial universe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972618)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:15 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

i'm giving you credit. the reasoning of the importance of NYC is impressive when considering the countless opposing reasons for why prices should be dropping more. there is general disbelief that it's fairly priced right now, both in lay circles and the media (obviously i don't know what the professionals are saying).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972676)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:23 PM
Author: Hyperactive boyish headpube goyim

historically if you look back at the aftermath of (say) katrina, there was widespread death and mayhem but that was treated as a humanitarian rather than economic disaster

so even if the bat flu kills a lot of people in new orleans or some other "unimportant" area like that, it probably won't move the markets much

not saying that it should be this way but you can kind of tell by the way that people zone out a bit as soon as they hear that poor black communities are getting hit hard by the virus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972712)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:41 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

i get what you're saying, but it's really not comparable to a hurricane or natural disaster. this is looking like a recurrent problem affecting the entire world, where everyone will have their lifestyles fundamentally altered for a year+, astronomical unemployment and lowered gdp, etc. don't think there's been anything like it. and we're back to 2018 levels. it makes no sense to me to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972851)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: pungent meetinghouse

so it's not too late to buy the dip?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972535)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:53 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

we're back to a price we last saw 3/13 and the market is still cheap relative to bonds.

market is fairly priced at this point for a long-term investor given that catastrophic runaway virus risk is off the table. if you compare the news from 3/13 versus today, the news is MUCH better.

i think you can make 6% real long term buying stocks right now. you can do better if you buy smaller cap value stocks that have been murdered in the downturn, and even better with certain high yield bonds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972568)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:55 PM
Author: pungent meetinghouse

so what should i buy specifically-- VTI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972581)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

yeah. throw in some VBR if u want.

note that this kind of recommendation is often useless as i have no idea what your overall portfolio looks like and what your benchmark is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972600)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: pungent meetinghouse

ty friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972602)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:18 PM
Author: Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman

what would you recommend for someone with an extremely high risk tolerance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972691)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:20 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972703)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:22 PM
Author: Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman

ok but i prefer actual companies. my best idea is SOXX

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972710)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:31 PM
Author: dead demanding resort

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972772)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 9:34 PM
Author: Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman

wtf why not

k buying 500 eth tomorrow morning then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972799)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 10:28 PM
Author: Floppy french pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39973088)



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Date: April 9th, 2020 12:26 AM
Author: stirring liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39973766)



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Date: April 9th, 2020 2:05 AM
Author: mint house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39974142)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 10:28 PM
Author: Floppy french pit

what about Visa or McDs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39973090)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: dead demanding resort

grossly expensive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982465)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 9:46 AM
Author: domesticated national security agency parlor

For crypto, do you need to have a view on shitcoins, or is just investing in ETH and BTC sufficient?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982238)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 10:34 AM
Author: Swollen indecent pisswyrm skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982447)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: dead demanding resort

i own BTC, ETH, XTZ, FTT (not necessarily in that order of size).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982463)



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Date: April 8th, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: Vengeful avocado internal respiration area

Good lord you’re a fucking annoying, awful fucking poster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39972605)



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Date: April 9th, 2020 7:39 AM
Author: Coral Up-to-no-good Tanning Salon Circlehead

Fuck off, this thread is awesome. I didn't notice the "good writing" that people were lauding in his poasts until now. He laid everything out perfectly and it's hilarious. It's hilarious that he sucks at investing and that exeunt always wins. He literally didn't miss a single one of the many negative indicators in the market that caused him uncertainty in the last fortnight. GTFO and don't bump your head on your Door Frame on the way out, pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39974583)



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Date: April 9th, 2020 1:44 PM
Author: concupiscible institution sex offender

ty

i'm beginning to think the inexplicable outcome of exeunt always winning has something to do with clique

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39976598)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 8:29 AM
Author: Coral Up-to-no-good Tanning Salon Circlehead

I don't want you actually in my subthreads, you are too histrionic. Just stating opinions, don't shoot the messenger.

Having said that, he probably has some type of Shaman DNA that gives him transcendental powers. Like what psychics or schizo bums have except he's an azn male so he's not scatterbrained and uses the insight to make money. Whatever it is, it's something way beyond the scope of Clique which is just a de facto system for assigning caste/hierarchy. He still doesn't get invited to Parties and has to work for himself or else he'd be permanently Entry-Level at some Office with boomers and Women and would be the "smart one" that gets paid the least. He's basically a high Loser but with some Nerd cred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982031)



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Date: April 10th, 2020 8:45 AM
Author: Azure kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4502785&forum_id=2#39982069)