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"masks" don't explain the #s in these East Asian megacities
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot these places are so densely populated there's just no way the cleanliness / orderliness of Tokyo / Japan only goes so far and Hong Kong is just plain dirty in many parts, there's huge tenements full of working class poors living in squalor
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary Cross immunity. Little to no testing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565431) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:38 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot genetics, less obesity, anything would explain it more but the media says it's mask wearing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565437) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary Washington state has had mandatory masks for three weeks. New cases have jumped up anyway. Same in California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565449) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot media keeps saying it's masks and they were mandated too late (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565464) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:44 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary My impression is the US is testing obsessively and the media is run by criminals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565483) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:55 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot there's obviously something else going on seems like someone would have theories besides masks case closed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565547) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:14 AM Author: Balding beady-eyed scourge upon the earth elastic band cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566731) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:55 PM Author: House-broken mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570334) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: motley nursing home Bingo.
Look at death rate and increase in positive percentage. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: Passionate dopamine orchestra pit The trend in fatalities in the US doesn't match what's going on everywhere else (just a few examples below). Every other first world country is bringing the fatalities down to 0 while the US plateaued and has recently seen a noticeable uptick. Our fatality trend looks worse than our peers.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: motley nursing home Marginally worse and easily accountable by underlying health conditions of the population. Lol at comparing us to Japan. We warehouse our olds where as that's unheard of elsewhere.
In any event, lockdowns beyond protecting healthcare capacity are not productive irrespective of the death rate.
Here is WA the gov is using an uptick in cases (massive new testing capacity) to justify extending lockdowns even though deaths have dropped and pos rate is roughly the same. Its disingenuous and political. Lives are being ruined over this. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 5:33 PM Author: Passionate dopamine orchestra pit Our underlying conditions may increase the number of fatalities versus other countries, but the trend in fatalities we've experienced shows that while everyone else contained the spread of the virus and brought fatalities way down, we haven't. We had some decline, then a plateau, and now a marked increase. The trend in fatalities is a good way to measure the spread of the virus since testing availability has changed so much over the past few months. Fatalities didn't go down in other countries (italy, japan, sweden, germany, and spain etc) because the virus had infected 100% of the population or because the virus ran out of old or fat people to infect. Our fatality trend makes no sense unless the virus is suddenly spreading a lot more here than elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576063) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:03 PM Author: motley nursing home For fucking sure underlying conditions play a factor. Comparing the US to Japan (one of the healthiest) is just silly. I haven't tracked national trends as well but locally spike in cases coinciding with nil on the death ledger. Pattern is holding steady.
Overall we know enough now that it's safe to say we're not going to suddenly fall off a cliff. Even if there are increases in deaths it's not going to have the detrimental impact on healthcare capacity that was feared. But yet policy makers are planning for social distancing in winter warming stations and asking for plans to have parks closed next summer. These people aren't going to give up control. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:43 PM Author: Diverse Dragon Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575795) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Arousing range Most of the people who "died of coronavirus" in the US didn't actually die of coronavirus, it's a huge fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565446) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:40 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot Japan has much stricter requirements for it to be cause of death iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565456) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: Stirring factory reset button keepsake machete yeah, exactly...it's basically a fraud virus and america is a fraud nation, so it's the perfect storm...people under 40 die every year of pneumonia caused by the flu... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565478) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Fuchsia theater stage Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575722) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:10 AM Author: House-broken mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566055) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: Passionate dopamine orchestra pit Even if you believe the US fatality numbers are higher because of a looser definition of "death by COVID", our overall trend on fatalities is markedly worse. We went down from the peak, plateaued, and are now going back up. Just about every other first world country maintained a consistent downward trend to near 0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575773) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: Arousing range Definition getting looser and looser. Pressure to get those numbers UP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577376) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: Soul-stirring field background story They don’t test there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565459) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot they have much much lower deaths than the US you could call bullshit on HK's #s but Tokyo is in the hundreds, they should have tens of thousands
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:45 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary I agree. It’s weird. There’s financial incentive to report covid “deaths” in the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565488) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot how so libs claim that's flame |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:50 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary Ive read you get mo money fo dem programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565524) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:58 AM Author: razzmatazz chad Money from the CARES act given to hospitals that report covid deaths (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566690) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:56 PM Author: trip internet-worthy theatre windowlicker E Asian countries aren't actively trying to undermine their reputations by overinflating death-from-virus statistics.
hth. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: buck-toothed sanctuary I expect MSM covid coverage to change/drop off a cliff if Biden wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565561) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:59 PM Author: trip internet-worthy theatre windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565567) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:10 AM Author: House-broken mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566054) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:12 AM Author: Fragrant house lollercausting HARD ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566062) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:45 AM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566650) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:49 AM Author: Azure Crusty Hospital Gay Wizard I lived in Singapore and Jakarta and spent plenty of time in HK and have been to all the big and many of the lesser known cities in SE Asia including places like Kota Ambon.
I have never understood how or why there weren't massive pandemic surges in Manila or Bangkok or Jakarta with their huge shantytowns. There's plenty of old folks. It does make you wonder what exactly is going on. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:13 AM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot no shit it should be obvious to anyone who's been to any of these places that something else is going on
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:09 AM Author: misunderstood odious hall lettuce disease was engineered to take out Americans specifically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566710) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:32 PM Author: gold meetinghouse this. asians aren't fat. being fat means high blood pressure, heart disease, etc. even olds will survive if theyre not fat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570249) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: Fuchsia theater stage And Italians, Spanish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575846) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:34 PM Author: curious flesh ticket booth Azns are introverts and don't spray bat flu particles everywhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570254) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575623) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: laughsome awkward gunner they lie about everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575711) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:39 PM Author: cyan locale Its faker than wrestling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575767) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:18 PM Author: Greedy Contagious Parlour National Security Agency Japan barely tests anyone. Among the absolute lowest testing numbers on Earth.
The majority of people infected with Covid are asymptomatic.
The vast majority of those who die from it have pre-existing conditions, such as obesity, diabetes. Hence blacks dying from it in overrepresented numbers.
Japan has a much healthier, less obese, no-black society.
This isn't about masks, and it pisses me off that people are buying into the lie. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:25 PM Author: motley nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576582) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:10 PM Author: Chartreuse Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576787) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: Diverse Dragon Home cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577377) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:06 PM Author: Fuchsia theater stage Is there a source for your claim that Japan barely tests anyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577733) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:16 PM Author: federal church sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577786) |