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"masks" don't explain the #s in these East Asian megacities
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge these places are so densely populated there's just no way the cleanliness / orderliness of Tokyo / Japan only goes so far and Hong Kong is just plain dirty in many parts, there's huge tenements full of working class poors living in squalor
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Comical Set Cross immunity. Little to no testing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565431) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:38 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge genetics, less obesity, anything would explain it more but the media says it's mask wearing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565437) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Comical Set Washington state has had mandatory masks for three weeks. New cases have jumped up anyway. Same in California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565449) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge media keeps saying it's masks and they were mandated too late (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565464) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:44 PM Author: Comical Set My impression is the US is testing obsessively and the media is run by criminals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565483) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:55 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge there's obviously something else going on seems like someone would have theories besides masks case closed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565547) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:14 AM Author: Chestnut Corner People Who Are Hurt cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566731) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:55 PM Author: Idiotic Institution Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570334) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home messiness Bingo.
Look at death rate and increase in positive percentage. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: Bonkers whorehouse The trend in fatalities in the US doesn't match what's going on everywhere else (just a few examples below). Every other first world country is bringing the fatalities down to 0 while the US plateaued and has recently seen a noticeable uptick. Our fatality trend looks worse than our peers.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home messiness Marginally worse and easily accountable by underlying health conditions of the population. Lol at comparing us to Japan. We warehouse our olds where as that's unheard of elsewhere.
In any event, lockdowns beyond protecting healthcare capacity are not productive irrespective of the death rate.
Here is WA the gov is using an uptick in cases (massive new testing capacity) to justify extending lockdowns even though deaths have dropped and pos rate is roughly the same. Its disingenuous and political. Lives are being ruined over this. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 5:33 PM Author: Bonkers whorehouse Our underlying conditions may increase the number of fatalities versus other countries, but the trend in fatalities we've experienced shows that while everyone else contained the spread of the virus and brought fatalities way down, we haven't. We had some decline, then a plateau, and now a marked increase. The trend in fatalities is a good way to measure the spread of the virus since testing availability has changed so much over the past few months. Fatalities didn't go down in other countries (italy, japan, sweden, germany, and spain etc) because the virus had infected 100% of the population or because the virus ran out of old or fat people to infect. Our fatality trend makes no sense unless the virus is suddenly spreading a lot more here than elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576063) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:03 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home messiness For fucking sure underlying conditions play a factor. Comparing the US to Japan (one of the healthiest) is just silly. I haven't tracked national trends as well but locally spike in cases coinciding with nil on the death ledger. Pattern is holding steady.
Overall we know enough now that it's safe to say we're not going to suddenly fall off a cliff. Even if there are increases in deaths it's not going to have the detrimental impact on healthcare capacity that was feared. But yet policy makers are planning for social distancing in winter warming stations and asking for plans to have parks closed next summer. These people aren't going to give up control. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:43 PM Author: sable aphrodisiac deer antler hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575795) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: disgusting generalized bond Most of the people who "died of coronavirus" in the US didn't actually die of coronavirus, it's a huge fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565446) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:40 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge Japan has much stricter requirements for it to be cause of death iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565456) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: Vibrant underhanded shrine scourge upon the earth yeah, exactly...it's basically a fraud virus and america is a fraud nation, so it's the perfect storm...people under 40 die every year of pneumonia caused by the flu... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565478) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle degenerate Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575722) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:10 AM Author: Idiotic Institution Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566055) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: Bonkers whorehouse Even if you believe the US fatality numbers are higher because of a looser definition of "death by COVID", our overall trend on fatalities is markedly worse. We went down from the peak, plateaued, and are now going back up. Just about every other first world country maintained a consistent downward trend to near 0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575773) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: disgusting generalized bond Definition getting looser and looser. Pressure to get those numbers UP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577376) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: Insane hyperventilating university stock car They don’t test there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565459) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge they have much much lower deaths than the US you could call bullshit on HK's #s but Tokyo is in the hundreds, they should have tens of thousands
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:45 PM Author: Comical Set I agree. It’s weird. There’s financial incentive to report covid “deaths” in the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565488) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge how so libs claim that's flame |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:50 PM Author: Comical Set Ive read you get mo money fo dem programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565524) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:58 AM Author: filthy gunner Money from the CARES act given to hospitals that report covid deaths (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566690) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:56 PM Author: Vivacious Territorial Windowlicker Water Buffalo E Asian countries aren't actively trying to undermine their reputations by overinflating death-from-virus statistics.
hth. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: Comical Set I expect MSM covid coverage to change/drop off a cliff if Biden wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565561) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:59 PM Author: Vivacious Territorial Windowlicker Water Buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40565567) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:10 AM Author: Idiotic Institution Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566054) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:12 AM Author: high-end big ticket booth lollercausting HARD ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566062) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:45 AM Author: stubborn nubile lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566650) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:49 AM Author: Walnut Weed Whacker Church I lived in Singapore and Jakarta and spent plenty of time in HK and have been to all the big and many of the lesser known cities in SE Asia including places like Kota Ambon.
I have never understood how or why there weren't massive pandemic surges in Manila or Bangkok or Jakarta with their huge shantytowns. There's plenty of old folks. It does make you wonder what exactly is going on. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:13 AM Author: stubborn nubile lodge no shit it should be obvious to anyone who's been to any of these places that something else is going on
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Date: July 8th, 2020 9:09 AM Author: Henna address fortuitous meteor disease was engineered to take out Americans specifically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40566710) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:32 PM Author: kink-friendly native this. asians aren't fat. being fat means high blood pressure, heart disease, etc. even olds will survive if theyre not fat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570249) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle degenerate And Italians, Spanish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575846) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:34 PM Author: Dull Tripping Church Building Electric Furnace Azns are introverts and don't spray bat flu particles everywhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40570254) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575623) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: jet-lagged crimson toilet seat blood rage they lie about everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575711) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 4:39 PM Author: doobsian potus factory reset button Its faker than wrestling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40575767) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:18 PM Author: navy dashing location Japan barely tests anyone. Among the absolute lowest testing numbers on Earth.
The majority of people infected with Covid are asymptomatic.
The vast majority of those who die from it have pre-existing conditions, such as obesity, diabetes. Hence blacks dying from it in overrepresented numbers.
Japan has a much healthier, less obese, no-black society.
This isn't about masks, and it pisses me off that people are buying into the lie. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 7:25 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576582) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:10 PM Author: stubborn nubile lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40576787) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: sable aphrodisiac deer antler hall cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577377) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:06 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle degenerate Is there a source for your claim that Japan barely tests anyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577733) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:16 PM Author: puce home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578943&forum_id=2#40577786) |