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What’s the Definitive Civil War 2.0 Rifle and Handgun Starter Combo

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Big-titted Gas Station
  07/16/20
Full size Glock and an AR-15 obv - do you need a specific mo...
Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal
  07/16/20
So obviously cr
Gay Pervert
  07/16/20
yes ty, with attachments or accessories you recommend also
Big-titted Gas Station
  07/16/20
Ruger 556 S&W M&P Sport II Either of those are g...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/16/20
cosigned. holosun has lots of decent quality affordable red ...
Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal
  07/16/20
Specifically the holosun 510c (either red or green optics) p...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/17/20
If you're going to war (and have the money), then get all th...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/17/20
I drive an American made car and buy American made guns 🇺...
laughsome fishy foreskin
  07/17/20
a .308 or .30-06 rifle with a decent scope and a bipod and a...
galvanic onyx state
  07/16/20
Lol no
Gay Pervert
  07/16/20
Where the fuck are you going to set up sniping people in a d...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/16/20
Especially where the fuck are you going to be sniping people...
Razzle kink-friendly office
  07/16/20
Cr also definitely buy a machete as backup
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/16/20
In any real civil war you either geographically entrench wit...
Awkward lodge mediation
  07/17/20
That's at the start, but you need to be able to take territo...
Razzle kink-friendly office
  07/17/20
I'm talking about non combatant civilians. i.e. What everyon...
Awkward lodge mediation
  07/17/20
This is pure fantasy, read about how shit actually went down...
Razzle kink-friendly office
  07/17/20
I know how it went down in Yugoslavia. The ones who could fl...
Awkward lodge mediation
  07/17/20
Hypothetically, a rural based movement would need to siege c...
chartreuse tantric main people
  07/21/20
They don't need to siege them the cities will starve on thei...
Awkward lodge mediation
  07/22/20
Just wait until foreign powers try to Berlin Airlift the cit...
Razzle kink-friendly office
  07/22/20
That's almost certainly what will happen in these circumstan...
Awkward lodge mediation
  07/22/20
The cities will absolutely need to be sieged. Most large ci...
chartreuse tantric main people
  07/22/20
uhhhhh there was a shitton of sniping there, this entirely s...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
This is CR, but secondary to what I listed below
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
A Glock 17 and an AR-15 with a shit ton of 30 round magazine...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/16/20
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sinister slimy potus
  07/16/20
Wonder why 40 round mags aren't more popular
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/17/20
20-rounders are 180 too but they're usually harder to find o...
up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing
  07/17/20
Too long, particularly for prone shooting. Theyre also rela...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/17/20
The higher the capacity the more likely they are to fail
Gay Pervert
  07/17/20
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sinister slimy potus
  07/17/20
good thread
up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing
  07/16/20
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Big-titted Gas Station
  07/17/20
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house-broken immigrant
  10/30/21
Glock 17 (bigger hands) or 19 (if you want to conceal carry)...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/17/20
CR! LPVO with offset is superior to dot/reflex + magnifier t...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
Body armor?
talented people who are hurt
  07/17/20
yeah
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/17/20
fuck yes, get Hesco
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
I own a spring field armory saint with 30 round magazines. O...
laughsome fishy foreskin
  07/17/20
so you own a single 30 round mag? lol
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/17/20
Not sure how you got that from my post but no, I own 3 30 ro...
laughsome fishy foreskin
  07/17/20
I just skimmed and didn't see the "s" at the end o...
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/17/20
Definitely. I bought a magazine loader which is great for th...
laughsome fishy foreskin
  07/17/20
Tip: Put you ammo in stripper clips for storage and easy rel...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/17/20
...
Big-titted Gas Station
  07/21/20
mmm I love strippers
Burgundy Heady Water Buffalo
  07/22/20
AK-47 228 compact Body armor 2 nades
Adventurous cyan principal's office
  07/17/20
I have Springfield hellcat now, considering getting some sor...
startling 180 ticket booth liquid oxygen
  07/17/20
if you don't have a perimeter lined with claymores and a .50...
Stirring Cream Mother
  07/17/20
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titillating corner
  07/21/20
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Big-titted Gas Station
  07/21/20
M1 Garand + 1911
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/21/20
This, with fixed bayonet.
wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe
  07/22/20
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Scarlet glittery multi-billionaire theater stage
  07/22/20
Imagine being in the battle of round top: the Johnny rebs fr...
wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe
  07/22/20
...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/23/20
Don’t fire at the enemy til u r close enuf to see the ...
wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe
  07/23/20
Aug + H&K usp
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/21/20
Scar + mk23
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  07/21/20
For me it appears to be waiting eternally for my gun purchas...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/21/20
sup TMF
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/21/20
Winner.
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/21/20
what gun did you buy?
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/21/20
Wtf, I literally gave my status update above. I'm in month ...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/21/20
lol you have to get a "permit" from the state to b...
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/21/20
Yes. Yes. And they shut down the permitting process be...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/21/20
do you have to pay for the permit?
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/21/20
Yes, you do. You pay for both fingerprinting and the permit...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
isn't this a poll tax?
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/22/20
Huh? Even I don't think this is a poll tax. This is more o...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
mine is a non-refundable $430 just to apply for the permit
Concupiscible Kitchen
  07/22/20
jfc.
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
same here, still waiting
Concupiscible Kitchen
  07/22/20
How long have you waited so far?
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
many months. NYC.
Concupiscible Kitchen
  07/23/20
Oof. Good luck. Honestly, I can't imagine staying in NYC a...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/23/20
residential neighborhoods are still fine. i'm happy as fu...
Concupiscible Kitchen
  07/23/20
I'd still gtfo even if you don't see people getting beat dow...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/23/20
honestly that's true anywhere, even in red america
Concupiscible Kitchen
  07/23/20
Wtf Didn’t the xoSCOTUS tell the urban cities to go...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  10/19/20
yes
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
All you really need is a Russian passport and the VDV.
Red set crotch
  07/21/20
^ Are Reptile
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  07/21/20
Just be honest and say "I would flee to Israel"
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/21/20
I really like what the Czar has done in Crimea, bro. It&rsqu...
Red set crotch
  07/21/20
Tel Aviv, actually.
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
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up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing
  07/22/20
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Lemon Hell Toaster
  07/22/20
Guns are all sold out, sorry bro
Saffron cracking lay half-breed
  07/21/20
Armsel Striker 12, MAC-10
Lemon Hell Toaster
  07/22/20
Ah, the good ol' street sweeper... Also, both are NFA firea...
narrow-minded nubile stage regret
  07/22/20
Help me decide between Sig M400 vs. MP sport 2, will I regre...
Big-titted Gas Station
  07/22/20
Sigm400 is more quality than the M&P Sport II but both a...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/22/20
ty, im gonna grab this andglock 17 and grab bump stocks
Big-titted Gas Station
  07/22/20
bumps are now illegal but they're not very good anyway
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
Buy american 🇺🇸
laughsome fishy foreskin
  07/23/20
Hot take - buy a Ruger 10/22 to at least have something to a...
maize very tactful base
  07/22/20
If you can only choose one gun there are plenty of strong ar...
Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal
  07/22/20
Ruger 10/22 plus ammo plus as many 25/110 round rotary magaz...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/22/20
i wonder how often that jams.
Ebony Rough-skinned Locus
  07/22/20
watched a few videos and it apparently holds up remarkably w...
zippy corn cake indirect expression
  07/22/20
Shameless plug for Paul Harrell who is an 180 gun loving aut...
Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal
  07/22/20
180
Big-titted Gas Station
  07/22/20
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house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
1000 copies white fragility
Orchid senate
  07/22/20
AR-15 + 357 Magnum for me. Perfect combo of all the power y...
Appetizing associate
  07/23/20
which .357? I have the 7 round model 686. so much more acc...
Ebony Rough-skinned Locus
  07/23/20
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Big-titted Gas Station
  10/03/20
The following items and brands are ranked in order: • ...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
are you opposed to ACOGs? Thoughts on the ACSS PA reticle?
Racy address fanboi
  10/19/20
See edit -- LOVE ACSS reticle, one of the best I've ever sho...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
I've got an acog on each of my noveske's (only one has the A...
Racy address fanboi
  10/19/20
Can't recommend Vortex enough. Would definitely stick it on ...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
Vortex = heavy
boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse
  10/19/20
I'm happy with what I get for the weight but ymmv
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
great list, a lot of work typing that out. highly unneces...
Stirring Cream Mother
  10/19/20
Those brands are well known for quality. I don't know what p...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
This is tangential to the OP, but if you're set for everythi...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Jungle-Green-Berets-Survival...
Concupiscible Kitchen
  10/19/20
I've read this -- good book.
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
Yeah, clay's not the best writer but he's a good dude.
Concupiscible Kitchen
  10/19/20
CR, and it's accessible, if not eloquent.
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
Glock 17 with a light + night sights in it. Woke people like...
Drunken Nursing Home
  10/19/20
thread im most proud of not flame
Big-titted Gas Station
  10/19/20
it's one of my favorite threads ever on the bort -- not leas...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
180 this thread will save and end lives i have a savag...
Big-titted Gas Station
  10/19/20
Not bad at all. I'd go JP, but you already knew that. Next p...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
whats a good one of both that is possibly in stock? just ...
Big-titted Gas Station
  10/19/20
Use gunbroker and get it shipped to your FFL.
Drunken Nursing Home
  10/20/20
Grab from the list above, yes. Hang tight and I'll try to fi...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
Alright. Some of these will be expensive, some will be cheap...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
god's work
Concupiscible Kitchen
  10/20/20
...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
Those are all amazing rifles, and they're all top end. Bu...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  10/20/20
yeah, but most people posting on xo should be able to afford...
Concupiscible Kitchen
  10/20/20
This is a significant reason I've focused on high quality ri...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
Yes, for those who can afford it, getting a quality name-bra...
Disgusting seedy trailer park chad
  10/20/20
CR on training. Best options, in a rough order, are: - GBRS...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
The first part is fair. Anyone for whom this is true should ...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
So many CHOICES out there i dont know what to buy next
cobalt bat shit crazy range
  10/19/20
A) What do you have? B) What environment/terrain do you liv...
house-broken immigrant
  10/19/20
...
cobalt bat shit crazy range
  10/19/20
Get a battle rifle Or a scouting rifle AR is always ...
Drunken Nursing Home
  10/20/20
...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
If you get a shotgun, I'd get semi-auto. I'd also get an AR ...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
I hate ARs. Used to have one years ago. Dont get the AR obse...
cobalt bat shit crazy range
  10/20/20
I love em -- very easy to shoot fast and well, very customiz...
house-broken immigrant
  10/20/20
...
house-broken immigrant
  10/21/20
...
house-broken immigrant
  11/01/20
Shopping for body armor is so confusing
nofapping contagious ape
  11/01/20
What’re you looking to get I got that green beret ...
Big-titted Gas Station
  11/01/20
Clay Martin? Which one? He just came out with a new one like...
house-broken immigrant
  11/01/20
Yeah his book, it’s pretty good not too in depth but m...
Big-titted Gas Station
  11/01/20
Gotta move brother Troubles are coming Gotta find a wa...
house-broken immigrant
  11/01/20
Should I read that?
nofapping contagious ape
  11/06/20
Yes, both Concrete Jungle and Prairie Fire are good -- but e...
house-broken immigrant
  08/03/21
What is your price range and what level of protection do you...
house-broken immigrant
  11/01/20
HERE WE GO!
Big-titted Gas Station
  11/03/20
...
house-broken immigrant
  11/03/20
Supersoaker
carmine sanctuary digit ratio
  10/30/21


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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:33 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620102)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:36 PM
Author: Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal

Full size Glock and an AR-15 obv - do you need a specific model?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620112)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:41 PM
Author: Gay Pervert

So obviously cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620131)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:57 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

yes ty, with attachments or accessories you recommend also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620217)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:38 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Ruger 556

S&W M&P Sport II

Either of those are good entry rifles

Get a flashlight (surefire or streamlight) and attach it to the handguard. Get a red dot sight and a sling. Buy lots of magazines and ammo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620401)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:41 PM
Author: Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal

cosigned. holosun has lots of decent quality affordable red dot options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620410)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:45 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Specifically the holosun 510c (either red or green optics) plus their 3x magnifier (that can swivel out of the way for close quarters).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620794)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:48 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

If you're going to war (and have the money), then get all the battle-tested stuff. For just shooting around, I dont see why the Chinese clones that cost about 1/5 or 1/10 the cost arent good enough.

Get some chinese led light clones. You can use the money towards ammo and mags instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620808)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:31 PM
Author: laughsome fishy foreskin

I drive an American made car and buy American made guns 🇺🇸

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622364)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:38 PM
Author: galvanic onyx state

a .308 or .30-06 rifle with a decent scope and a bipod and an accurate dope chart that you develop at the range is an absolutely essential item for civil conflicts. then start getting into tungsten carbide ammunition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620124)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:41 PM
Author: Gay Pervert

Lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620133)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:23 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Where the fuck are you going to set up sniping people in a dense urban area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620359)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:25 PM
Author: Razzle kink-friendly office

Especially where the fuck are you going to be sniping people and not immediately be overrun by a horde of niggers with machetes?

The coming civil war is going to have a lot more in common with Chechnya, Serbia/Yugoslavia, and to some extent Syria than subthread OP's fantasy. Just a bloody grind of MOUT and house by house clearing of blocks one at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620362)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:48 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Cr also definitely buy a machete as backup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620437)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: Awkward lodge mediation

In any real civil war you either geographically entrench with your common sect or you flee.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622347)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:40 PM
Author: Razzle kink-friendly office

That's at the start, but you need to be able to take territory back from your opponent at some point in time. Unless you think ceding all the major cities is a viable long term strategy (spoiler alert: it's not). Read a history book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622422)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:56 PM
Author: Awkward lodge mediation

I'm talking about non combatant civilians. i.e. What everyone on this shit board would be. In reality 90% would flee any territory that truly collapsed. But in the event you chose to stay in your white boomer exurb you are protecting your neighborhood and not taking territory. With the exception if your neighborhood defense militia decides to start attacking territory but very likely there won't be the man power or will for that.

Other exception is you join a true centralized combatant network but that will also never happen in the United states because there will always bee some semblance of military to hold and engage crucial territory.

Ultimately you either live in a coastal city you flee or die in until it gets under federal control or you live in an interior city population center that has degraded public safety to extent organized black criminals start killing and extorting with impunity until peace framework is formed, likely with same criminals taking prominent role in local government. In that case you flee to exurbs and hold with previous mentioned band of white boomers and shoot it out with whoever drives out there for loot.

Then long, long term, assuming full collapse you go to agro self defense commune and de facto independent territories end up forming along city, rural divide. But this is not going to happen and you (any xo poster) will likely flee to Argentina or Europe by this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622534)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:12 PM
Author: Razzle kink-friendly office

This is pure fantasy, read about how shit actually went down in Yugoslavia. That's probably the closest thing to a full on race war that we have seen in modern times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622609)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:39 PM
Author: Awkward lodge mediation

I know how it went down in Yugoslavia. The ones who could flee did and the others were subjugated by militias. Bosnia and Serbia are also the size of Michigan with a couple major cities. Reality is you will either run or die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622732)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: chartreuse tantric main people

Hypothetically, a rural based movement would need to siege cities, starve them into submission, take key prisoners, then leave. You're not going to take and hold philadelphia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641302)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:54 AM
Author: Awkward lodge mediation

They don't need to siege them the cities will starve on their own when the countryside stops exporting them food. Are there enough rats to feed 2 million people in Philly? Maybe. Not for long though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644146)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: Razzle kink-friendly office

Just wait until foreign powers try to Berlin Airlift the cities. Dropping in food and medicine might work but it also might turn into Somalia with feral nigs hoarding supplies and building warring factions which plays in the rural favor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644184)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:25 AM
Author: Awkward lodge mediation

That's almost certainly what will happen in these circumstances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644268)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 2:28 PM
Author: chartreuse tantric main people

The cities will absolutely need to be sieged. Most large cities (ie the lib industrial base). After a month of food (and Chinese goods) deprivation any major city will implode with refugees flocking outwards and local power brokers fighting over what is left.

Air interdiction would be a key part of any siege though major airports are generally located outside oof major cities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645123)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:52 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

uhhhhh there was a shitton of sniping there, this entirely supports subthread OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143739)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

This is CR, but secondary to what I listed below

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143742)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:45 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

A Glock 17 and an AR-15 with a shit ton of 30 round magazines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620150)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:28 PM
Author: sinister slimy potus



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:45 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Wonder why 40 round mags aren't more popular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620796)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:47 AM
Author: up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing

20-rounders are 180 too but they're usually harder to find or more expensive than 30's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620803)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:49 AM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Too long, particularly for prone shooting. Theyre also relatively new, at least the reliable magpul ones

20s are good shooting on a bench

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620812)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 7:54 PM
Author: Gay Pervert

The higher the capacity the more likely they are to fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624407)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:45 PM
Author: sinister slimy potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624582)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:03 PM
Author: up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing

good thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620505)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:42 AM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620786)



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Date: October 30th, 2021 8:52 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#43356805)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Glock 17 (bigger hands) or 19 (if you want to conceal carry)

Ar15, get one with the rail mounting

- cheap flash light

- cheap sling

If you have extra funds:

- holosun 510c (circle dot)

- holosun 3x magnifier

If you have 10k to spare, and this is the only "game changer" attachment

- pvs-14 white phosphor night vision optics

- helmet to mount the optics

- laser illuminator for your gun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620834)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:33 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

CR! LPVO with offset is superior to dot/reflex + magnifier though -- wayyyy easier to ID targets, especially in actual fighting environments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143635)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:10 PM
Author: talented people who are hurt

Body armor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622251)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:11 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622266)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:36 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

fuck yes, get Hesco

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143651)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:17 PM
Author: laughsome fishy foreskin

I own a spring field armory saint with 30 round magazines. One M&P 9mm and one ez shield for concealed carry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622291)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:17 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

so you own a single 30 round mag? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622295)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:20 PM
Author: laughsome fishy foreskin

Not sure how you got that from my post but no, I own 3 30 round magazines for it. 3 17 round magazines for the 9 and 2 7 or 8 round magazines for the shield.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622311)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:21 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

I just skimmed and didn't see the "s" at the end of magazine. But you should buy more mags. More mags = more better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622315)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:24 PM
Author: laughsome fishy foreskin

Definitely. I bought a magazine loader which is great for the range and has made it easy to reload there so I haven’t really focused on buying more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622328)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:37 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Tip: Put you ammo in stripper clips for storage and easy reload

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIl_j1pCxfg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622402)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:06 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641478)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:17 AM
Author: Burgundy Heady Water Buffalo

mmm I love strippers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643157)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:25 PM
Author: Adventurous cyan principal's office

AK-47

228 compact

Body armor

2 nades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622331)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: startling 180 ticket booth liquid oxygen

I have Springfield hellcat now, considering getting some sort of 357 magnum revolver and a shotgun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624027)



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Date: July 17th, 2020 6:24 PM
Author: Stirring Cream Mother

if you don't have a perimeter lined with claymores and a .50 machine gun covering all angles of approach from the roof you might as well take a handful of tylenols and chug some vodka.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624037)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:33 PM
Author: titillating corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641307)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 5:45 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641080)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:40 PM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

M1 Garand + 1911

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641345)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:46 AM
Author: wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe

This, with fixed bayonet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644110)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:09 PM
Author: Scarlet glittery multi-billionaire theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646514)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:46 PM
Author: wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe

Imagine being in the battle of round top: the Johnny rebs from Alabama charging at u with their yell and your commanding officer: a college professor from some place called Bowdoin ordering u to fix bayonets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646648)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:12 PM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649251)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:19 PM
Author: wonderful black chapel sweet tailpipe

Don’t fire at the enemy til u r close enuf to see the whites in their eyes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649282)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:42 PM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Aug + H&K usp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641357)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:48 PM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Scar + mk23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641381)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:52 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

For me it appears to be waiting eternally for my gun purchase permit to get through despite gun stores already being empty. Thanks NJ, you worthless POS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641405)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:56 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

sup TMF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641426)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:57 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Winner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641430)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

what gun did you buy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641436)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:59 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Wtf, I literally gave my status update above. I'm in month 2 of waiting for a purchase permit. No end in sight. Right to keep and bear arms my ass. At this rate it will be 2021 before I'm able to buy anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641441)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:02 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

lol you have to get a "permit" from the state to buy a gun?

did you have to pay for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641453)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:03 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Yes.

Yes.

And they shut down the permitting process because COVID for a while until they got sued so now there's a backlog. fml.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641460)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:06 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

do you have to pay for the permit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641473)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Yes, you do. You pay for both fingerprinting and the permit itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643021)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:11 AM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

isn't this a poll tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644210)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Huh? Even I don't think this is a poll tax. This is more of a use tax than a poll tax. Similar to hunting/fishing licenses.

Also, I would have paid $500+ if I could have gotten this done ASAP instead of months of waiting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644281)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:40 AM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

mine is a non-refundable $430 just to apply for the permit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644339)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 3:47 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645445)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

same here, still waiting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644085)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

How long have you waited so far?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646712)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:20 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

many months. NYC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649297)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:34 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Oof. Good luck. Honestly, I can't imagine staying in NYC at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649362)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 2:34 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

residential neighborhoods are still fine.

i'm happy as fuck that i'm a renter though. i can't imagine owning a place here right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40650054)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 2:41 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

I'd still gtfo even if you don't see people getting beat down today. If shit happens and you have to defend yourself the entire system will be against you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40650086)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 8:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

honestly that's true anywhere, even in red america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40651996)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:51 PM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Wtf

Didn’t the xoSCOTUS tell the urban cities to go fuck themselves with hand guns ban in Heller? So they just restrict in other ways?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143728)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143864)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:01 PM
Author: Red set crotch

All you really need is a Russian passport and the VDV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641449)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

^ Are Reptile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641462)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Just be honest and say "I would flee to Israel"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641465)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:07 PM
Author: Red set crotch

I really like what the Czar has done in Crimea, bro. It’s a lovely place to retire while Yankeestan burns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641480)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:44 AM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Tel Aviv, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643024)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:15 AM
Author: up-to-no-good lascivious partner genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643481)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:44 AM
Author: Lemon Hell Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643025)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM
Author: Saffron cracking lay half-breed

Guns are all sold out, sorry bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641466)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:45 AM
Author: Lemon Hell Toaster

Armsel Striker 12, MAC-10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643030)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 3:48 PM
Author: narrow-minded nubile stage regret

Ah, the good ol' street sweeper... Also, both are NFA firearms, so normal people can't get them today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645448)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:39 AM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

Help me decide between Sig M400 vs. MP sport 2, will I regret this combo or is it good entry level



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643224)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:32 AM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Sigm400 is more quality than the M&P Sport II but both are great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644049)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:56 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

ty, im gonna grab this andglock 17 and grab bump stocks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644964)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

bumps are now illegal but they're not very good anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143654)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:21 PM
Author: laughsome fishy foreskin

Buy american 🇺🇸

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40652937)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:37 AM
Author: maize very tactful base

Hot take - buy a Ruger 10/22 to at least have something to a.) PRACTICE with and b.) have a rifle that you can cheaply stock tons of ammo and dump a lot of indiscriminate rounds. Minimal stopping power but don't underestimate how quickly people will BTFO once they've been shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644316)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 2:08 PM
Author: Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal

If you can only choose one gun there are plenty of strong arguments for that gun to be a Ruger 10/22.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645006)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

Ruger 10/22 plus ammo plus as many 25/110 round rotary magazines as you can carry is def TCR for only one gun when the world ends

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/german-sport-guns-gsg-ruger-10-22-sr-22-22lr-110-round-rotary-drum-magazine.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646028)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Ebony Rough-skinned Locus

i wonder how often that jams.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646034)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:23 PM
Author: zippy corn cake indirect expression

watched a few videos and it apparently holds up remarkably well

note the review rating too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646050)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:29 PM
Author: Misanthropic Spectacular Sneaky Criminal

Shameless plug for Paul Harrell who is an 180 gun loving autist:

https://youtu.be/Fcga_efvk_Q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40647354)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:41 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646131)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:35 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143642)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:27 PM
Author: Orchid senate

1000 copies white fragility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646064)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:13 PM
Author: Appetizing associate

AR-15 + 357 Magnum for me. Perfect combo of all the power you need and reliability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649255)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:46 PM
Author: Ebony Rough-skinned Locus

which .357? I have the 7 round model 686. so much more accurate (or I am) and enjoyable to shoot compared to a striker fired glock.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649414)



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Date: October 3rd, 2020 4:18 AM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41038129)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:31 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

The following items and brands are ranked in order:

• an AR from one of the following:

- Knight's Armament (KAC)

- Hodge Defense

- Radian

- Lone Star Armory

- BG Defense (also known as Type A Rifles)

- Fierce Arms

- Triarc

- Era3

- JP Enterprises (mostly competition guns, but my god do they shoot well)

- V Seven

- Barrett

- Noveske

- FIMS Manufacturing

- Lewis Machine Tool (LMT)

- Heckler and Koch

- Cheytac USA

- LaRue

- Salient Arms

- LWRC

- Geissele

- Wilson

- Daniel Defense

- NEMO Arms

- Primary Weapons Systems

- Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF)

- Barnes Precision Machine

- Christensen Arms

- Precision Reflex

- Sons Of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW)

- Texas Shooter's Supply

- Tactical Edge Arms

- Lantac

- Seekins Precision

- Sionics

- Black Rain Ordnance

- Springfield Armory Saint Edge

- Sig Sauer MCX Virtus

- White Oak Armament

- Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM)

- Midwest Industries

- CMMG

- Faxon

- Turner Armament

- Aero

- Springfield Armory Saint Victor

- Sig Sauer M400 Tread

(everything below this is last resort)

- PSA Custom

- Radical Firearms RF-15 SOCOM

- Rock River Arms

- Del-Ton

- All other PSA

- Diamondback Tactical

- Daytona Tactical

Main things are to get a barrel between 11.5" and 16" (preferably as short as possible), with 1:7 or 1:8 twist rate, a rail system capable of mounting attachments, and the best trigger and optics you can afford.

ATTACHMENTS:

----- sling: Ferro Slingster, VTAC, Vickers Tactical, Blue Force, Frank Proctor

----- spare mags: ETS, Magpul, Troy, Lancer

----- Low Power Variable Optic (LPVO): Vortex, Leupold, Nightforce, EOtech, Schmidt & Bender, Kahles, Steiner, Atibal, Primary Arms (BUDGET, but great reticle)

----- offset red dot or reflex: Aimpoint, EOtech, Leupold, Trijicon, Holosun

----- light: Modlite, Surefire, Arisaka, Streamlight

----- forward grip: BCM, Magpul, Daniel Defense, Arisaka

----- pistol grip: B5 Systems, BCM, Magpul

----- stock: B5 Systems, BCM, Magpul

• a Glock, Sig P320X, CZP10, M&P 2.0, or Canik TP9 (budget)

- get a holster (rec Safariland), light (same as above lights), red dot (same as above red dots)

next:

• chest rig: Spiritus, Haley Strategic, Ferro Concepts, Mayflower/Velocity Systems

• level 3 or 4 plates: Hesco, RMA

• plate carrier: Crye, Spiritus, LBT, Firstspear

• AR10 or bolt rifle in .308 0r 6.5 Creedmoor: Same as above rifle manufacturers with addition of Christensen Arms, Gunwerks, Kimber FN, GA Precision

- bipod and sling

• Ruger 10/22 with extended mags

So, now that you've got this shit, to whom should you turn to learn how to use it?

- GBRS Group (entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn)

- Arcane Group (almost entirely staffed with former US SOF including a few Delta guys and a DEVGRU guy)

- Xray Alpha, LLC (Matt Pranka's company -- Delta guy retired in 2020, and USPSA GM)

- Northern Red Training (all former Delta or Special Forces CIF [direct action team])

- Green Eye Tactical (Eric Dorenbush's company -- ex Delta)

- Fieldcraft Survival (ex Delta and Green Berets)

- Tony Cowden / Capable Inc. (ex Delta)

- Haley Strategic (ex Recon Marine)

- Aztec Training Services (one ex Delta guy and a ton of world champion competitive shooters)

- Esoteric / Yousef Sansour (former counterterror fed and high level competitive shooter who trains all the fed agencies)

- Frank Proctor Shooting (ex Green Beret and champion competition shooter)

- Bob Keller / Gamut Resolutions (ex Delta)

- CTT-Solutions (Mike Pannone, ex-Delta)

- Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb (ex Delta guy (who has been out for a long time and isn't quite up to date, but still an amazing instructor)

- Pat McNamara (ex Delta [same as Kyle Lamb -- out of it for awhile])

- Direct Action Resource Center (DARC) (ex Green Berets)

- Shaw Shooting (national champion competitive shooters who train SOF units)

- Core Vision Training (recent ex Ranger who trains civilians in CQB)

- Redback One (run by Jason Falla, former Australian Tier 1)

- Ronin Tactics (ex Green Beret; stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've seen)

- Kagwerks (ex Rangers)

- Green Ops (several ex-SOF instructors, and one excellent competitive shooter)

- Vigilance Elite (ex SEAL and CIA contractor)

- Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe (another ex Delta guy from 90s/early 2000s)

- Baer Solutions (ex Green Beret)

- Trident Concepts (ex SEAL)

- Thunder Ranch (run by Clint Smith, well known ex Marine and SWAT officer who's been training people since the 80s)

- Sage Dynamics (ex Rangers and SWAT cops)

- Gunsite Academy (long established training center run mostly by cops)

- EAG Tactical (current SWAT cop)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143621)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: Racy address fanboi

are you opposed to ACOGs? Thoughts on the ACSS PA reticle?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143751)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

See edit -- LOVE ACSS reticle, one of the best I've ever shot with. If I could get that reticle in a Leupold, Nightforce, or Vortex, I'd never buy another LPVO

I don't like ACOGS very much -- the eye relief sucks, they're not adjustable which can really come in handy (especially if you're not running an offset dot), but they're at least very durable and bright. If you've got nothing else, run it -- otherwise get a Vortex (or any of the others I listed, all of which I would run before an ACOG).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143860)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:16 PM
Author: Racy address fanboi

I've got an acog on each of my noveske's (only one has the ACSS). I've also got an unopened box Vortex LPVO that I have never mounted with an aftermarket offset mount. Might have to get around to playing with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143913)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:26 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Can't recommend Vortex enough. Would definitely stick it on and play with it for a bit. Which one do you have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143959)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:35 PM
Author: boyish ultramarine pocket flask crackhouse

Vortex = heavy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144016)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:56 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

I'm happy with what I get for the weight but ymmv

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144128)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:24 PM
Author: Stirring Cream Mother

great list, a lot of work typing that out.

highly unnecessary. many would be better off with a different 5.56 than some of those armories. what's wrong with a random 5.56 vs a random ar15 brand.

personally i agree with glock having a glock 21 but it's so broad. the p320 is great but i wouldn't get it in .357 or .40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146336)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Those brands are well known for quality. I don't know what poasters can afford, or what they need for their specific situation; best possible world is a KAC SR-15 upper on a Radian Model 1 lower with Geissele internals, but idk how many poasters can put one of those together -- much less find them rn. If a poaster lives in downtown Memphis, they have different needs than a poaster in Wyoming; they also have differing budgets. Giving them a list they can pick and choose from is far more helpful than telling them what exact model to buy.

I'd love to hear what other 5.56 people should run that offers an advantage over those I listed. PSA? they're better than nothing, certainly, and if they were my second or third AR, I'd get one no problem. But I want something better as my first option.

Yeah, again, I didn't tell people what model or caliber to buy because needs differ, but those brands make quality and out of that pool, you can find something for pretty much any mission. It's like tools -- if you asked me where to buy tools, I might not know what your project is but I know Gearwrench wrenches and Dewalt battery powered are well made and backed up by good customer service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146476)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:32 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

This is tangential to the OP, but if you're set for everything else I listed, along with all of the survival gear you need for your situation, get a nice drone with a camera -- they're the closest thing you'll get to air support.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143994)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:33 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Jungle-Green-Berets-Survival/dp/B089TWRYPL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144009)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:38 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

I've read this -- good book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144040)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:42 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

Yeah, clay's not the best writer but he's a good dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144059)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

CR, and it's accessible, if not eloquent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144098)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:38 PM
Author: Drunken Nursing Home

Glock 17 with a light + night sights in it. Woke people like red dots but I prefer hard sights.

I have a Daniel Defense DDm4v11 pro that I’ve put 2,000 rounds through without a single failure. Put a light and sling on it. Forward grips are a choice of preference but I prefer something that’s more horizontal. Make sure to get flip up irons. I have an EOS + 3x magnifier on mine.

You should also have a 22 and a 308 if you have room. I like the ruger 10/22 and the M1A Scout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144035)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

thread im most proud of not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146408)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:40 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

it's one of my favorite threads ever on the bort -- not least because it hits one of my niches, you should be proud

what was your answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146423)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:41 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

180

this thread will save and end lives

i have a savage axis 2 243 for hunting, ruger 10/22 and gettgin a glock 17/19, SS P365xL and either gonna get a JP or scorpion pistol grip carbine basic models

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146435)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Not bad at all. I'd go JP, but you already knew that. Next purchase should be an AR, and then some sort of AR10 or bolt gun in a longer range cartridge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146489)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

whats a good one of both that is possibly in stock?

just grab from your list abopve?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146539)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:02 AM
Author: Drunken Nursing Home

Use gunbroker and get it shipped to your FFL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146549)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Grab from the list above, yes. Hang tight and I'll try to find you some.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146562)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:15 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Alright. Some of these will be expensive, some will be cheaper. Wade through the links to find one that fits what you're looking for. Don't pay more than $2,800 for an AR-15 and that better be for KAC or Radian -- no others are worth it. Most of these you should not pay more than $2,500 for, and that number drops to $1,900 if it's BCM or LWRC, $1,500 if Aero or Turner -- and all of those numbers are still in the expensive range, where you should be looking for some aftermarket upgrades like Geissele or Radian triggers/charging handles, or something else to raise the value.

AR-15:

- https://www.turnerarmco.com/Turner-Armament-Recon-p/tac-recon.htm

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881868909 (best AR on the market, and you pay through the nose for it)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881888136

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881607120

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881498481

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880051851

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881241123 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881240926 (identical rifles, different listings; do not bid more than a grand for this)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879608651

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879779675

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895945

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881599634

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881861230

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881660604

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881926540

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881224952

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880858695

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881233828

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881449602

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881235238

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881304796

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881946995

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881456094

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881805902

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881896450

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879556355

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881382084

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881597959

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881669655

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881896731

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881819689

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881552263 (Piston driven, not DI, so not as smooth but just as good if you know how to shoot)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881592019

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881964446

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881950457

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880871863

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881825417 (good deal rn, bidding is in the $1,100 range)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881219923

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880981697 (awesome package deal, but still expensive)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881780522

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880599948

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881734590

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AR-10:

Don't pay more than $3,000, and that better be from KAC, Radian, Christensen, LMT -- all else should cap at $2500, and Aero should cap at like $1,600.

- gunbroker.com/item/881550716

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880802327 (Christensen is top-tier quality, and again, you pay for it)

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880975516

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881867502

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881760147

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880790803

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881943274

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881506275

That should give you plenty to look through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146910)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:30 AM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

god's work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146940)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:33 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146949)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:08 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Those are all amazing rifles, and they're all top end.

But most people here are just getting into guns. They'd be better served getting some standard issue ~$1000 AR15 and putting thousands of rounds through the rifle.

The AR platform is extremely mature such that most of off-the-shelf components are very reliable. It's diminishing returns at the top end, and half the price is the cachet of the brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147017)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:12 AM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

yeah, but most people posting on xo should be able to afford $3k for a top-of-the-line rifle that they'll have forever, especially when it's still really really hard to find $1200 rifles in stores + that $1200 PSA rifle will get upgraded in two years anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147027)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:16 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

This is a significant reason I've focused on high quality rifles -- most people here can probably afford it, and right now it is hard to get lower quality ones at commensurately lower prices anyway. If you're going to buy now, it's going to be expensive, and you may as well get something damn good for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147039)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:34 AM
Author: Disgusting seedy trailer park chad

Yes, for those who can afford it, getting a quality name-brand rifle is reasonable.

Anyway, the gun is just a tool. Squad tactics, skills with the weapons are just as important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147076)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:52 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

CR on training. Best options, in a rough order, are:

- GBRS Group (the very best on this list -- entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn)

- Fieldcraft Survival

- Tony Cowden / Capable Inc.

- Haley Strategic

- Ronin Tactics (stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've ever seen)

- Aztec Training Services

- Core Vision Training

- Esoteric / Yousef Sansour

- Frank Proctor Shooting

- Kagwerks

- Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb

- Vigilance Elite

- Pat McNamara

- Direct Action Resource Center (DARC)

- Shaw Shooting

- Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe

- Baer Solutions

- Trident Concepts

- Thunder Ranch

- Gunsite Academy

- Sage Dynamics

- EAG Tactical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41148608)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:15 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

The first part is fair. Anyone for whom this is true should get the Turner I linked very first, or one of the cheaper Aero or LWRC rifles somewhere in there.

I think I probably disagree some with the idea that you're paying just for the rollmark -- I can point to significant differences in shooting Radian / KAC vs. Aero / Turner. However, you're right that an Aero or BCM rifle is more than sufficient for 95% of all needs, and I linked several there for that reason. However, right now everything is overpriced and you pay less of a markup right now by buying a good gun -- which most people here can probably afford.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147037)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: cobalt bat shit crazy range

So many CHOICES out there i dont know what to buy next

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146480)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:53 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

A) What do you have?

B) What environment/terrain do you live in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146500)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:58 PM
Author: cobalt bat shit crazy range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146533)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:01 AM
Author: Drunken Nursing Home

Get a battle rifle

Or a scouting rifle

AR is always a good choice



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146544)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146575)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

If you get a shotgun, I'd get semi-auto. I'd also get an AR first, and then a 7.62 rifle.

Definitely get the 10/22, they're such versatile little guns.

19 is good, I like mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146574)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:23 AM
Author: cobalt bat shit crazy range

I hate ARs. Used to have one years ago. Dont get the AR obsession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146654)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:19 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant

I love em -- very easy to shoot fast and well, very customizable to needs, versatile (can clear houses and shoot out to 500y with a 14.5 barrel).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146920)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:40 AM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41155857)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:14 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235729)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:15 PM
Author: nofapping contagious ape

Shopping for body armor is so confusing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235732)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:19 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

What’re you looking to get

I got that green beret urban warfare book and he doesn’t really mention any ba recs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235749)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:22 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Clay Martin? Which one? He just came out with a new one like 2 weeks ago called Prairie Fire, which is far more geared towards actual civil war than Concrete Jungle, which is much more of a "how to get out of your shitlib hellhole" guide. I've read both (Prairie Fire yesterday). In Prairie Fire, he recommends against body armor because it's expensive, heavy, and takes time to get used to working in. He also says that if you're going to buy it, buy Hesco.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235765)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:25 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

Yeah his book, it’s pretty good not too in depth but made me glad to be out of MFH

I’ll order that one next

I’m still in pretty shitlib area so there’s really no where to train which he says is most important

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235780)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:31 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Gotta move brother

Troubles are coming

Gotta find a way to hit the range

Dryfire also helps a LOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235804)



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Date: November 6th, 2020 6:32 PM
Author: nofapping contagious ape

Should I read that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41302658)



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Date: August 3rd, 2021 6:42 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

Yes, both Concrete Jungle and Prairie Fire are good -- but especially Prairie Fire.

CJ: https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Jungle-Green-Berets-Survival/dp/B089TWRYPL

PF: https://www.amazon.com/Prairie-Fire-Guidebook-Surviving-Civil/dp/B08L6DDJHL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#42891942)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:22 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant

What is your price range and what level of protection do you want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235768)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: Big-titted Gas Station

HERE WE GO!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41263604)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 11:55 PM
Author: house-broken immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41263716)



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Date: October 30th, 2021 9:23 PM
Author: carmine sanctuary digit ratio

Supersoaker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#43356926)