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New Covid-19 🦠cases in Sweden remain "surprisingly" low.
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:40 PM Author: hideous stage gay wizard https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/29/world/covid-19-coronavirus/new-cases-in-sweden-which-became-a-lightning-rod-over-its-lax-pandemic-response-early-on-remain-surprisingly-low odd case |
Date: September 29th, 2020 2:42 PM Author: Flushed Effete Jew This has been debunked, sorry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009092) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:45 PM Author: stirring trailer park kitty cat im not surprised (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009118) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:46 PM Author: 180 learning disabled theater hissy fit Dr. Fauci said this is fake news (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009123) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: stimulating piazza An objectively stupid journalist called Sweden a “pariah state” for not imprisoning healthy 21 year olds back in July
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-pariah-scandinavia.html
Coronavirus has permanently destroyed my trust in the media in a way that even Russiagate never did |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:53 PM Author: Pale Doobsian Cuckoldry Private Investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009179) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: Yapping sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009195) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: motley mischievous theater stage kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009201) |
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Date: October 1st, 2020 1:39 PM Author: canary station volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41025584) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: turquoise at-the-ready institution antidepressant drug wait 2 weeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009152) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: provocative lay this whole thing has been so maddening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009162) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:54 PM Author: Pale Doobsian Cuckoldry Private Investor Because they smartly let it blow through and build up herd immunity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009187) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: 180 learning disabled theater hissy fit Sounds like you believe in science fiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009194) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:57 PM Author: Pale Doobsian Cuckoldry Private Investor Libs' stupidity is going to enable me to work from home for a year+ so whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009210) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 3:27 PM Author: stimulating piazza Stupid non-scientists from middling colleges dismissing things as “unscientific” based on a New York Times article they skimmed has been the highlight of covid imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009469) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: elite community account (antisemite) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009199) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 2:56 PM Author: elite community account ODD CASE VERY INTERESTING (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009204) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 3:11 PM Author: diverse kink-friendly pozpig chad explain why they are so much worse on virtually every measure compared to norway and finland (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009324) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 3:29 PM Author: stimulating piazza “Virtually every measure”
Why don’t we start with the overall happiness of a population of 10 million people that escaped months of unnecessary imprisonment? |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: diverse kink-friendly pozpig chad you're moving the goalpost. original proposition was that sweden's policies were effective at curbing the spread and impact of covid as compared to other policies. why then are sweden's covid numbers so much worse than their two neighbors with similar culture/population that adopted different policies. after we establish whether or not sweden's policies are actually effective we can move on to the cost-benefit of those policies vs relative restrictiveness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009818) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:21 PM Author: Maize hairy legs link to that being the original proposition? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009855) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: yellow azn Sweden "front-loaded" their deaths by taking a more lax approach. The problem with this approach is that we've gotten much better at treating COVID and recognizing outbreaks. We've likely reduced the death rate by at least 50% and we're much better at testing so when people get the virus they won't spread it like they did in March. So even with the spikes in other euro countries now, Sweden will remain at the top of the heap by fatality rate. This is especially true given that we'll have a vaccine by next year.
We should definitely be more open to other approaches, but I think this board has a tendency to overrate Sweden's approach because of its desire to defend trump at all costs. And Sweden suffered economically anyway. |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: hideous stage gay wizard Treatments are flame, vaccines rarely pan out. It’s still early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009884) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: yellow azn We've definitely reduced the fatality rate. And likely significantly. Simple treatment protocols alone have made a huge difference. Your boy Trump is right on this one. And we'll definitely have a vaccine. The virus is not as elusive as the various strains of the flu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009909) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:29 PM Author: hideous stage gay wizard Vitamin D is lowest in March and highest in September. I think that’s what explains it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009922) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:29 PM Author: Maize hairy legs the virus is not a flu virus, it is a cold virus. There will never be a vaccine for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009928) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: yellow azn We don't have vaccines for cold viruses because there is absolutely no reason to develop vaccines for the many different viruses that cause the common cold. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009952) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: Maize hairy legs Also known as coronaviruses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009964) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 10:50 AM Author: Abusive Wine Bawdyhouse Gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41017666) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 11:00 AM Author: Soggy Crimson Spot a lot of them are rhinoviruses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41017740) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: hideous stage gay wizard It doesn’t mutate much a vaccine seems theoretically possible but it’s still hard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009954) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Maize hairy legs it's not possible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009968) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:28 PM Author: mint background story The virus tore through the most vulnerable first. In general a virus will also mutate to a more benign form the longer it stays in a population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009918) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: Maize hairy legs "heh, they're suffering economically anyway" said the braindead lib wearing a diaper on his face while cops arrest his now-bankrupt neighbors for being outdoors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009940) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 6:22 PM Author: stimulating piazza Note that Sweden purposely gave every covid patient above a certain age morphine and refused to admit them into ICUs. Mainly because the objectively retarded imperial college model that good (stupid) New York Times readers still take seriously anticipated a catastrophic influx of covid patients. Surprise, surprise: the model was wrong, per usual.
If anything Neil Ferguson’s model not only panicked western governments into closing everything, but probably also helped drive up Sweden’s deaths far more than necessary.
At the end of the day, people in your camp shrieked at Sweden in April while hysterically waving around “science” like this: https://i.imgur.com/t7Hc8UK.jpg
Sweden responded by calmly inviting you to go find a large horse to felate. Now it’s in a far more robust position to withstand a prolonged pandemic than its neighbors. And their people did not waste precious months indoors wallowing for no reason. Given all the shrieking about exponential growth, I might’ve guessed that the Swedes would all be dead by now given their initial rate of spread |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 6:35 PM Author: hideous stage gay wizard yep the preemptive euthanasia was a mistake. you can always pull their plugs later! so dumb to kill them in anticipation things *could* get worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41010712) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: yellow azn I didn't shriek at all. In fact I praised sweden for taking an alternative approach that was backed by a legitimate scientific position. I agree that the media was too harsh and skeptical of the Swedish approach. I hate groupthink. But ultimately, I don't think the Swedish approach has been vindicated at all. I set out my reasons above and I don't think people on this board disagree. We're much better at treating this now and closer to a vaccine. So those who argued for lockdowns to buy us time to figure out what to do may end up being vindicated with lower fatality rates.
Also, forgotten in all this is that if covid behaves like other coronaviruses, immunity will wane within a year and people will soon be susceptible again. The jury is out on the severity of a second bout. |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Maize hairy legs more dense, more international commerce, and more non-vitamin D-synthesizing midnight-black Somalians than either of those countries. Very frustrating that racist libs continue to compare these three very distinct nations just because their natives have a similar skin tone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009865) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 3:36 PM Author: jade duck-like stag film odd -- it must be bc everyone there died of the bat flu already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009535) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: jade duck-like stag film compare and contrast:
NYT, July 2020: Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html
Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage — a red flag as the United States and Britain move to lift lockdowns.
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NYT, Sept. 2020: Vilified Early Over Lax Virus Strategy, Sweden Seems to Have Scourge Controlled
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-strategy.html
After having weathered high death rates when it resisted a lockdown in the spring, Sweden now has one of Europe’s lowest rates of daily new cases. Whether that is an aberration remains to be seen.
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Date: September 29th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: 180 learning disabled theater hissy fit Sweden's and every other country's approach to the virus has shown that nothing has been able to stop or contain the virus, especially lockdowns. The virus ran its natural course through EACH country. Those that have locked down only prolonged the inevitable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41009969) |
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Date: September 29th, 2020 5:07 PM Author: motley mischievous theater stage kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41010200) |
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Date: September 30th, 2020 10:29 AM Author: Histrionic library water buffalo Odd case, very interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4636397&forum_id=2#41017516) |