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We will never know what SNES vs Genesis sold in the U.S.
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 8:43 PM Author: metal navy legend Anecdotally, what was your experience irl? For console gens with published figures, mine tends to align with that of the public record (PS1 @ 30m in the U.S. versus N64 @ 18m units. Basically most people with N64s ended up getting PS1s once the gen was Lost, but not necessarily vice-versa).
Ime, irl, SNES was 100% associated with Losers and Genesis with Scumbags. My family had both bc we were Hybrids. The Scumbag Clique did pretty well in the 90s prior to the passage of NAFTA by the Republicans in Congress so I reckon they could all afford a Genesis. OTOH, SNES *seemed* more popular, both contemporaneously and atm. Discuss. |
Date: July 3rd, 2022 8:58 PM Author: metal navy legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790451) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 9:11 PM Author: Soul-stirring sanctuary legal warrant Most gamemos i knew had both (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790508) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 9:32 PM Author: metal navy legend Not unlike N64/PS1, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790600) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 9:14 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790525) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:01 PM Author: metal navy legend We can solve this imho. The fact that Sega was Scummy as hell any probably lied about sales tips the scales in Nintendo's favor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790741) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:03 PM Author: supple bull headed piazza I got hooked with NES and saw no reason to switch brands until PS1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790749) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:04 PM Author: metal navy legend Scumbags are often relatively late adopters before they go all-in. They would've thought gaming was for fags in the 80s before getting drawn in by Sega. Similarly, they were on the fence on gaming as a pastime until GTA3/Halo came out and they went all-in on Xbox. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790759) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:08 PM Author: supple bull headed piazza I was first in line for an N64 too, having been a loyal NES/SNES consumer. Eventually got a PS1 though because of its much better catalog. In particular, I wanted to play Metal Gear Solid and Capcom fighters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790777) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:11 PM Author: metal navy legend I could never get into any of the 2D fighters after ssf2 turbo because every little thing is different and more complicated even though it's superficially the same basic game. And it was hard to tell if it was better or just different.
But yeah I think a lot of us N64 bros moved over to the dark side at some point. The Slow Trickle of games eventually just turned into No Games after Zelda basically. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:13 PM Author: supple bull headed piazza The first console I bought as an adult was a Sega Dreamcast so I could play SF3 lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790800) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:17 PM Author: metal navy legend Don't bring up the Dreamcast with me. I loathe the revisionist history on that console and Sega writ large. People act like the 32X and Sega CD were the death knell for Sega when it doesn't matter. The Saturn was literally the polar opposite of what the U.S. Genesis crowd had come to expect; no one writes about this or analyzes the Clique aspect. Sega went from 1995-1999 being fucking dogshit in the U.S. because the Saturn literally just had anime games and the western games were basically all ports of games the Genesis could handle. and people blame the 32X because it's an easy (and Scummy) target.
I'm not even going to mention the fact that the Dreamcast's failure was a Controlled Demolition. It would've outsold the Xbox and/or Gamecube if they fought tooth and nail. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:27 PM Author: supple bull headed piazza Never knew anyone who had a Sega CD/Saturn/32X. I would read about these consoles in GamePro every month but they just seemed like something from another planet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790851) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:31 PM Author: metal navy legend I played 32X because a Scumbag would come over with one, and he had like an impossible number of games too, probably all stolen. I played Saturn because a homosexual intellectual kid had one. A kid I knew who probably spent 14 seconds total playing video games in his entire life had a Sega CD as an apparent status symbol. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:20 PM Author: Razzle Cobalt Kitchen i was a sophomore in college when NES came out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790828) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:21 PM Author: metal navy legend ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790832) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2022 10:33 PM Author: pale bbw 55 year old man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44790874) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:45 AM Author: excitant awkward yarmulke incel I’m an outlier but literally everyone I knew as a kid had genesis while 1-2 people had SNES. may have been a bay area effect due to sega’s SF headquarters.
my understanding is that SNES slaughtered genesis in rural areas where sega had poor distribution and nintendo had preexisting relationships with retailers. also that urban black and hispanic communities vastly preferred genesis over SNES. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:07 PM Author: Sapphire Contagious Main People Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44794573) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:49 AM Author: Diverse slap-happy immigrant My console journey was: NES (age 7 I think), genesis, super NES, ps1, Xbox, ps3, ps4, ps5. Don’t think I’ll ever buy another one again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791355) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:50 AM Author: Sapphire Contagious Main People Chapel Gorgeous journey, IMHO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791356) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:05 AM Author: metal navy legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792270) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:51 AM Author: Fragrant Autistic Liquid Oxygen Temple SNES was still riding the brand halo of NES, which was a huge step up from Atari and the first mass produced awesome console.
Sega was like a knockoff Nintendo trying to run on hype, akin to Reebok with its pumps trying to compete with Nike's Jordans. Sonic was the Reebok pump Mario. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:08 AM Author: metal navy legend Genesis was more like Red Man Tobacco to SNES' big league chew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792285) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:51 AM Author: peach famous landscape painting SNES had more longevity. genesis won the early part of the gen while SNES won the tail end that overlapped with N64/PS1 (which is what most millennials remember). it’s not clear which of those translates to more units sold, but the typical SNES probably had more play on it (including as hand-me-downs and such) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791359) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:10 AM Author: metal navy legend More playtime, absolutely, because Losers play way more than Scumbags. This was especially the case back then, when the addictive qualities of video games weren't so deliberately Engineered into them (Scumbags are highly prone to addictions; Losers just have nothing else to do) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792293) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:23 PM Author: peach famous landscape painting conversely though Losers preferred single-player games while genesis chads were all about the multiplayer experience and using it as a party console. so if we consider it in terms of person-hours rather than just hours the genesis might be in contention. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44794121) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:35 PM Author: metal navy legend I don't think 16-bit games were addictive as what came later. No matter how much of a Loser you were, you didn't just keep playing Super Mario World. I think that people played NHL '94 on Genesis for like 27 minutes at a birthday party. Those matches didn't last until midnight imo. NHL '94 supported 5 players but who the hell had a multitap? I've never laid eyes on a multitap in my entire life. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:43 AM Author: crawly office SNES and N64 were way more common in my experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791534) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:45 AM Author: excitant awkward yarmulke incel I knew way more people with N64 because I was a little kid, the older people I knew were 50/50 N64 and playstation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791545) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:50 AM Author: Vibrant Resort born 1981. early years i had an atari 2600, a ti-99/4a and a 286 IBM-Compatible PC. i begged for years for an nes and never got one, then one day in 1991 my cheap father just randomly drops a sega genesis on my brother and i. no christmas, no birthday, just "oh i got a deal at the scratch and dent place". looking back its like he wanted us to be weirdos. later i managed to talk him into getting the sega channel for a few months. confirming your theory - yes i am a scumbag, and my best friend from that era who had an snes is a loser. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:04 AM Author: metal navy legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792264) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:50 AM Author: haunting kitty ticket booth Snes raped genesis in upstate NY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44791555) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:05 AM Author: metal navy legend You're in Sully country, champ.
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Author: sull56ivan2010 I have been playing a lot of systems since I was one in 1993. First systems were an NES and Genesis. Never played SNES until 2000, and never owned one until late 2005. I have been helping Sega-16 with reviews for over a year. It's time to see what I can cover for the SNES via SNES hub.
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:15 AM Author: hairraiser psychic step-uncle's house I got a Sega Genesis sometime in 1995. Played it for about 1 year. Skipped PS1. Got a PS2 in about 2006. Got a PS3 in 2010. Got a PS4 in 2014. On Genesis I played Columns, Sonic & Knuckles, Lion King, Mortal Combat, Mortal Combat II, and Ecco the Dolphin. On PS2, I had games like NCAA Football 2003, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. On PS3, I got into Skyrim. On PS4, I played Last of Us, and tried to get into Witcher III, but I just ended up getting Skyrim for PS4 and went with that. My kids now use the PS4 to play Minecraft. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:21 AM Author: metal navy legend you really sound like Scum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792317) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:21 AM Author: supple bull headed piazza Only guy I knew with a Genesis was from a broken home and had a somewhat erratic home life. It was the only opportunity I recall being able to play Sonic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792315) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:22 AM Author: metal navy legend It would always seem like these kids never wanted to play Sonic. It would be the first thing I wanted to play but they were always into some depressing dystopian shit like X-men or dinosaurs killing each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792318) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:35 AM Author: supple bull headed piazza I remember thinking Sonic was cr but still inferior to Mario and provided insufficient reason to own a Genesis instead of an SNES. Beyond the Mario Sonic thing, I thought the catalogs for both consoles were largely the same but that SNES had better graphics (no idea if this is actually true). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792342) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:37 AM Author: hairraiser psychic step-uncle's house I never played SNES or compared side by side, but I thought that Genesis was way better than Nintendo for some reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792344) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:40 AM Author: supple bull headed piazza Having “better graphics” seemed like a huge fucking deal back then. I haven’t played video games regularly since like 2006 so I don’t know what the thought is anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792354) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:46 AM Author: hairraiser psychic step-uncle's house It was all pixelated crap on a big huge crt tv back then. I remember I used to sit so close I could see the red, green and black that the TV was made up of. We had a Zenith brand. I thought it was a big deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792372) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:52 AM Author: supple bull headed piazza Yeah in retrospect it was all retarded. I remember another advantage of Genesis: it had Mortal Kombat first. I remember being pissed that I had to wait longer to get the home version. Didn’t the Genesis version have red blood too? |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 11:04 AM Author: metal navy legend Wikipedia shows the same release date and Genesis had Blood, SNES didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792418) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 11:12 AM Author: supple bull headed piazza Interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44792439) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:34 PM Author: peach famous landscape painting it is true, SNES can produce more colors and layers and has better video output. DKC could never be done on genesis, and that game tricked a lot of people into thinking it was 32-bit (closest thing on genesis was probably Toy Story). genesis on the other hand is better at sprite physics and animation.
the catalogs would've been the same from the POV of the average american consumer back then, but SNES had way more support from japanese devs which is what retrospective players tend to care about. almost every long-running console game franchise with a devoted fanbase (megaman etc) had an entry on SNES while only a few had one on genesis. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:42 PM Author: metal navy legend The catalogs were arguably quite different imo. Ports were incredibly different. In practice, Genesis had Sonic, 180 sports games, Aladdin, and throwaway side scrollers, some of which were Scummy. There were some hidden gems like Castlevania or Phantasy Star but these were easy to overlook amidst the Scum zeitgeist. You also had random Scummy games like the one where dinosaurs fight to the death, or the Jurassic Park one where you play as a dinosaur. The whole zeitgeist was Scummy. Sega CD and 32X augmented the library's Losery and Scummy qualities, respectively.
In retrospect, DKC was no more impressive than Mortal Kombat. DKC digitized 3D renderings. Mortal Kombat digitized guys in costumes. Earthworm Jim, for that matter, digitized 2D graphics and looks pretty good still imo. With that said, DKC2 is a triumph.
Also, the enduring franchises are a tough one. Nobody cares about Mega Man X, or Actraiser, or JRPGs imo. SNES persists in being popular simply because the fans are Losers instead of Scumbags. But literally NO ONE ALIVE cares about Vectorman. Anyone that did is dead by now, anyway. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:07 PM Author: Grizzly multi-billionaire corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44794828) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:36 PM Author: Lake Queen Of The Night 3 SNESes for every 2 Genesises. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5145915&forum_id=2#44795256) |