of course he supports anything that hurts those people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45032968)

He argues from the position that the nation could not bear another four years, and that justifies suspending democratic norms, etc.

So what was the number one absolutely terrible, totally fucked-up policy that Trump was responsible for in the first four years?

Joke answers aside, I dont have an answer. I guess the best sincere lib response I could come up with is... family separations at the border?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033014)

But my question, perhaps naive, is what would an actual sincere high IQ lib say? (in b4 they dont exist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033022)

i know this because i've posed this exact question to probably 2 dozen reasonably high IQ libs irl. every single time, they just avoid answering the question, and talk around it for a couple minutes before trying to change the subject

it's actually a very good trick to get annoying libs to shut the fuck up about politicths when they bring it up in an inappropriate social setting. now that drumpft is old news, nobody really brings him up anymore, but these people used to bring him up all the time unprompted and start obnoxiously and incoherently babbling about drumpft and the evil cons

if you start posing them direct questions like "can you tell me exactly what donald trump is doing/did that genuinely threatened our country and the citizens who live here?" they back down real fast and will usually avoid engaging you on "politicths" ever again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033063)

The worst think about Trump is that he was a narcissistic sociopath with autocratic delusions. He "joked" about serving three-plus terms (haha wink wink), proclaimed he would only accept the election results if he won, and then refused to accept the results of an election he lost in a landslide. This tore the country apart, predictably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033376)

Merely (and maybe you dont think its merely) his personality?

I think the smart libs I know would land on family-separation. That was the one actual policy that seemed to infuriate them the most. (Tied with scotus picks, which any gop president would have made).

Thing is, I think there's a colorable lib argument against family separation, even though Obama also separated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033944)

they were crying about kids being held w adults before that

most of them aren't related and they're just using children as get out of jail free cards

they just want incentives for as many illegals to get in as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034038)

Sam Harris’s observation was that the Trump University scandal reflected Trump’s corruption more acutely than Hunter Biden’s laptop on Joe Biden. I think that’s true, but I don’t think Trump University is the best example. Look at the Save America PAC’s fundraising after the 2020 election. Desperate and countless emails begging for money from poor prole supporters for “legal fees” to fight “voter fraud” and overturn the election. But only amounts over $8k went to legal fees and the rest went to the PAC (run by Trump’s kids). Tearing the country apart as a pretext to bilk your supporters out of another $250 mil AFTER an election. Now that’s corrupt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034467)

SH made a claim: knowing what we knew in October 2020, silencing negative information about Biden or his family was justified because Trump posed a threat to American democracy akin to a meteor.

My question was: what had Trump done in nearly four years as president to justify that claim? By "done" I meant as acting president. To use another potus, I dont think blowjobs under the Roosevelt desk threaten the nation, but failing to act on the bombing of the USS Cole did. So yes, I think policy is what's at issue.

And by Trump, it is fair game to understand "the trump administration" because its obvious presidents don't single-handedly make all the decisions.

So -- explicitly -- what policies were taken by the Trump administration, if any, to justify Harris's claim?

That was the fairly simple question.

Your responses about Trump's personality defects, absent any policy consideration, just ramble and avoid the question. Which is *exactly* what the posters above, like Anderson and smell, predicted a "smart lib" would do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034864)

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45035383)

And with Jews (at least a certain contingent of them) there is no greater sin than getting whites to consider themselves part of a unified bloc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45035724)

You say the story was “silenced” when in fact it was rushed to press by the Post and it was all over conservative media for weeks. Some outlets were more cautious and rightfully so given the source and that several aspect of the Post’s original story were later proven false.

You imply that Joe Biden was implicated. That’s far from proven. And if the laptop story only involves Hunter, then that’s a perfectly good reason not to run the story right before the election because it’s a red herring.

You insist that there must be a specific policy reason for any animus toward Trump or to believe he was a danger and that’s not true (my point above).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45035858)

bobulinski implicated biden along with the laptop content. the 10 for the big guy was part of bobulinski's schtick

"rushed to press" since when has prudence been the standard for the media? the fbi had the laptop since 2019. had it been fake, they could have inserted themselves in the story. crickets.

what are the several aspects of the post's original story that were later proven false?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45039866)

Wow that sounds horrible. So to summarize -- Trump SUCKS and is THE ABSOLUTE WORST OF ALL TIME because he's an Orange Man who is, unfortunately, also Bad? Am I getting that right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45040203)

I'm not exaggerating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033100)

not who we are as a nation, way worse than biden’s son [choose your own adventure] minors then having it covered up by stasi “law enforcement” that very much desires to report to the big guy instead of the chief executive at the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033421)

i've always criticized libs for being unprincipled and just don't whatever because the ends justify the means in their minds, but it's rare for them to just come out and admit it. suppressing speech and censoring news is ok so long as it's used for a good reason. these people have no second order thinking. they're like goldfish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45033969)

censoring news that is damaging to the anointed candidate = preserving out liberal democracy and civic rights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034045)

i'm not kidding. what did trump actually do that could sustain that comparison? appointing conservative justices? not wearing a mask? what do libs actually point to?

edit. i see my entire point was already made above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45035359)

"Like, literally, who cares if he literally has corpses of dead children rotting in his basement? Fuck 'em, those kids were probably little sluts anyway. Stop kvetching, goys." - (((Sam Harris)))

The (((mask))) is fully off. Are you paying attention yet, goys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034046)

"Checkmate, Trumpkins!"

*smears shit all over smug face*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45034949)

https://twitter.com/samharrisorg/status/1560339115865808896

There is a podcast clip circulating that seems to be confusing many people about my views on Trump (which is understandable because I wasn’t speaking very clearly). So, for what it’s worth, here is what I was trying to say: 1/6

I was essentially arguing for a principle of self-defense (where there’s a continuum of proportionate force that is appropriate and necessary to use). I’ve always viewed Trump as a very dangerous person to elect as president of a fake university, 2/6

let alone the US, and when he became a sitting president who would not commit to a peaceful transfer of power, I viewed him as more dangerous still. (However, I’ve never been under any illusion that he is Orange Hitler.) 3/6

On the podcast, I was speaking narrowly about the wisdom and propriety of ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story until after the election. I’ve always thought that this was a very hard call, ethically and journalistically. 4/6

But given what happened with the Anthony Weiner laptop in the previous election, I think it was probably the right call. 5/6

Nothing I said on that podcast was meant to suggest that the Democrats would have been right to commit election fraud or take other illegal measures to deny Trump the presidency (nor do I think they did that). 6/6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45037785)

https://twitter.com/JackAttaboy/status/1560339525129453569

https://twitter.com/StewMama71/status/1560361360965320704

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45037809)

apparently, harris doesn't know what it was, either, despite making it sound like the worst corruption of all time. or he knows and is just being a disingenuous piece of shit.

what is trump university? trump's version of get rich shit like dave deldotto and all of those flip this house shysters. but, like those, they are so obviously buyer beware that you can't feel sorry for the suckers. even students for whom i have no sympathy are far more sympathetic than people who got had by trump university.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45039901)

https://nypost.com/2022/08/19/sam-harris-defends-silencing-the-post-on-hunter-biden/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45038631)

but isn't his whole shtik, "I serve only reason and rational thought"? so from time to time he must let the mask drop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175679&forum_id=2#45044822)